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    Whatever this is, I don't think we should be thinking of it as a simple form change. Both times they've done something like this before, they brought something new to the table with them.

    Giratina brought form changing.
    Kyurem brought - and is still the only pokemon capable of - fusion.

    Whatever Zygarde will be doing, it's likely something entirely different then what we've seen before. It's not too hard to believe this little green blob is somehow related.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zachmac View Post
    Whatever this is, I don't think we should be thinking of it as a simple form change. Both times they've done something like this before, they brought something new to the table with them.

    Giratina brought form changing.
    Kyurem brought - and is still the only pokemon capable of - fusion.

    Whatever Zygarde will be doing, it's likely something entirely different then what we've seen before. It's not too hard to believe this little green blob is somehow related.
    Deoxys brought Form Changes, Giratina didn't do anything special.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hydrohs View Post
    Deoxys brought Form Changes, Giratina didn't do anything special.
    Oh, oops.
    It's way of form changing in gen 3 is so different I always forget it was a thing.

    But still, the fact that Kyurem did something unique with it is still enough for me to stand by the idea that Zygarde has some fancy trick up it's sleeve as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zachmac View Post
    Whatever this is, I don't think we should be thinking of it as a simple form change. Both times they've done something like this before, they brought something new to the table with them.

    Giratina brought form changing.
    Kyurem brought - and is still the only pokemon capable of - fusion.

    Whatever Zygarde will be doing, it's likely something entirely different then what we've seen before. It's not too hard to believe this little green blob is somehow related.
    Same with Mewtwo. It was the first seen mega evolution.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hydrohs View Post
    Deoxys brought Form Changes, Giratina didn't do anything special.
    Wasn't Giratina the first to change forme with a hold item?
    I never had Deoxys in RSE so I can't say for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlowPokeBroKing View Post
    Wasn't Giratina the first to change forme with a hold item?
    IIRC, yes it was.

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    ...Actually, now that I think about it, Giratina was the first pokemon to change it's ability with its form as well.
    Not that either Pressure or Levitate are exceptionally rare abilities...but it's still something, I guess.
    Quote Originally Posted by SlowPokeBroKing View Post
    Same with Mewtwo. It was the first seen mega evolution.
    Kyogre/Groudon getting Primals work to, I guess. I mean, it's not exactly the same Mega Evolution, so I guess Primal forms could count as a new gimmick.

    But Zygarde, being the #3 of our legendary trio will probably get something especially unique and fancy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorde View Post
    IIRC, yes it was.
    Cool. So, I guess Zachmac's point still stands.

    Emerald: Deoxys brought about forme changes
    Platinum: Giratina brought about hold-item forme changes
    B2W2: Kyurem brought about fusion
    XY: Mewtwo brought about mega-evolution
    ORAS: Rayquaza brought about itemless mega-evolution
    ???: Zygarde brings about a new forme change/method?

    Sound theory.

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    "it's not Mega Evolution, it's Giga Evolution! it's not a million times better, it's a billion times better!"

    cue BST increase of 120 instead of 100

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    Quote Originally Posted by Excitable Boy View Post
    "it's not Mega Evolution, it's Giga Evolution! it's not a million times better, it's a billion times better!"

    cue BST increase of 120 instead of 100
    Itemless BST increase of 120 and Protean as its new ability! Giga evolution: For the Digimon fan in you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlowPokeBroKing View Post
    Wasn't Giratina the first to change forme with a hold item?
    Nope, Arceus was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlowPokeBroKing View Post
    Cool. So, I guess Zachmac's point still stands.

    Emerald: Deoxys brought about forme changes
    Platinum: Giratina brought about hold-item forme changes
    B2W2: Kyurem brought about fusion
    XY: Mewtwo brought about mega-evolution
    ORAS: Rayquaza brought about itemless mega-evolution
    ???: Zygarde brings about a new forme change/method?

    Sound theory.
    That seems possible.

    And I was thinking, what if we need one or more of the blob Pokemon and Zygarde to obtain the silhouette?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slamda View Post
    Nope, Arceus was.
    After researching, it was Giratina. Platinum, and thus Giratina and the Griseous Orb, were released in 2008 while Arceus wasn't even officially announced until 2009.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuoko View Post
    That seems possible.

    And I was thinking, what if we need one or more of the blob Pokemon and Zygarde to obtain the silhouette?
    Interesting theory. I'm so curious about the blob(s).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slamda View Post
    Nope, Arceus was.
    Arceus wasn't legally released until HGSS, therefore Giratina was first officially.

    Technically Castform was the first form changer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rocky505 View Post
    Arceus wasn't legally released until HGSS, therefore Giratina was first officially.

    Technically Castform was the first form changer.
    We all forgot about Castform. Damn.

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    I don't think "which Pokémon brought what" matters much.

    It's really hard to believe this supposed-to-be small green blob could be related to Zygarde. To me, it would be the most logical situation; however, as someone pointed out, this movie is not going to be out before next year, and it usually takes another year to make a game, so it would not be too odd to see this Pokémon announce the seventh generation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Prince of May View Post
    I don't think "which Pokémon brought what" matters much.

    It's really hard to believe this supposed-to-be small green blob could be related to Zygarde. To me, it would be the most logical situation; however, as someone pointed out, this movie is not going to be out before next year, and it usually takes another year to make a game, so it would not be too odd to see this Pokémon announce the seventh generation.
    It's the waiting period until we find out what the green blobs are that's killing me. If they are new Pokemon, I hope they're properly revealed around January like the first Gen 6 Pokemon were over two years ago.

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    I have a strong hunch this little guy is associated with Zygarde somehow... maybe even a pre-evolution of sorts? On Bulbapedia, it lists one of Zygarde's namesake origins as a 'zygote'. A zygote is the earliest stage in multicellular organisms. And ecosystems, which is what Zygarde is supposed to protect, go hand-in-hand with the balance of them. I would also like to point out that the Mortality Duo are centered around life and death, which ties into all of this as well. Finally, we have the symbol that is closely associated with Mega-Evolution, which is the double-helix of a DNA strand. IIRC, Zygarde's design in his current form does have some resemblance of the double-helix. So, what if Zygarde has 3 forms that represent various stages of a life-form? Zygarde's current form is the middle stage, the blob is his first stage, and the monolith is his fully-evolved stage?

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    I haven't seen this posted yet, but I saw this pop up on my Twitter... Hopefully we can get a better, full shot soon. CKOXoG9UAAAKlVo.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by TurboBlaziken View Post
    I haven't seen this posted yet, but I saw this pop up on my Twitter... Hopefully we can get a better, full shot soon. CKOXoG9UAAAKlVo.jpg
    Looks like an Unown painted green. :x

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    Quote Originally Posted by TurboBlaziken View Post
    I haven't seen this posted yet, but I saw this pop up on my Twitter... Hopefully we can get a better, full shot soon. CKOXoG9UAAAKlVo.jpg
    Kind of resembles Solosis. I'm very curious. I do like OptimusZygarde's idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OptimusZygarde View Post
    I have a strong hunch this little guy is associated with Zygarde somehow... maybe even a pre-evolution of sorts? On Bulbapedia, it lists one of Zygarde's namesake origins as a 'zygote'. A zygote is the earliest stage in multicellular organisms. And ecosystems, which is what Zygarde is supposed to protect, go hand-in-hand with the balance of them. I would also like to point out that the Mortality Duo are centered around life and death, which ties into all of this as well. Finally, we have the symbol that is closely associated with Mega-Evolution, which is the double-helix of a DNA strand. IIRC, Zygarde's design in his current form does have some resemblance of the double-helix. So, what if Zygarde has 3 forms that represent various stages of a life-form? Zygarde's current form is the middle stage, the blob is his first stage, and the monolith is his fully-evolved stage?
    This is a very cool idea. And having a legendary evolve for once... Now wouldn't that be something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TurboBlaziken View Post
    I haven't seen this posted yet, but I saw this pop up on my Twitter... Hopefully we can get a better, full shot soon. CKOXoG9UAAAKlVo.jpg
    And the counterpoint:

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    The smudged opening, bad linework and uneven 'k' makes me believe this is fake.
    Grains of salt at the ready.

    Quote Originally Posted by TurboBlaziken View Post
    This is a very cool idea. And having a legendary evolve for once... Now wouldn't that be something?
    A pre-evolution is unlikely. Forme changes make more sense, in the context of that theory.


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    I just hope the next game will be a single one. I don't wanna feel bad for skipping X and Y though Black 2 was amazing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCVM22 View Post
    And the counterpoint:



    Grains of salt at the ready.



    A pre-evolution is unlikely. Forme changes make more sense, in the context of that theory.
    What does it matter if it's fake or not? We know that it exists and basically what it looks like through descriptions and sketches. It's more of an interpretation if it is fake rather than a fakemon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlowPokeBroKing View Post
    It's more of an interpretation if it is fake rather than a fakemon.
    I think that's the consensus, yes. No one's saying that the Pokemon itself is a hoax.

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