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    I feel like a new game wouldn't be announed through CoroCoro alone. If it's being shown in this month's CoroCoro it will almost certainly be shown before in some capacity. That's what they've done since BW2 (and HGSS actually, I can't remember BW1's reveal structure). BW2 was shown via Pokemon Sunday (as was HGSS), XY was shown in the special Pokemon Direct, ORAS was clearly meant for E3 shown in a teaser uploaded by Pokemon's youtube channel the day of an investor's meeting

    If it's getting shown this year I'd bet either really late this month or somewhere in November, with CoroCoro possibly (but not guaranteed, I don't believe there were any hints towards BW2, XY or ORAS the month before the reveal) hinting as such.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyberBlaziken View Post
    Probably because Gates to Infinity was just awful. Didn't risk it perhaps.
    Except Mystery Dungeon has nothing to do with Rangers, they're made by different companies. One sequel to a spinoff being contested doesn't make the other a non-factor.


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    Will this site crash when they announce Pokemon Z, I mean did something like that happen before? :P
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    Speaking of Nintendo Directs, I'm surprised we haven't gotten any after E3.
    Possibly because of Mr. Iwata's death.

    But if October or November gets one. There's a slot for an announcement.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuvixer View Post
    Will this site crash when they announce Pokemon Z, I mean did something like that happen before? :P
    It hasn't happened since like the DP era

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    But you can expect extreme high level traffic nonetheless.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CyberBlaziken View Post
    But you can expect extreme high level traffic nonetheless.
    We were pretty stable for XY & ORAS iirc

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    Quote Originally Posted by R_N View Post
    We were pretty stable for XY & ORAS iirc
    Because of better servers, or just less interest?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuvixer View Post
    Because of better servers, or just less interest?
    Better servers

    At the very least I highly doubt a third version would crash the site when an actual new generation that showed off things with a bang did not

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    Quote Originally Posted by R_N View Post
    Better servers

    At the very least I highly doubt a third version would crash the site when an actual new generation that showed off things with a bang did not
    Yes, that is what I thought.
    Pokemon XY are the number one by sold games, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuvixer View Post
    Yes, that is what I thought.
    Pokemon XY are the number one by sold games, right?
    It sold super fast but I believe the record holder is still the original RB. Pokemania and all.

    XY did outsell BW1 & 2, I think? And ORAS kind of by default. Not sure how it did vs the 4th gen; I'd have to imagine less considering the DS install base at a time where the 3ds wouldn't be announced for years.

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    For the Pokemon franchise?


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    Quote Originally Posted by R_N View Post
    It sold super fast but I believe the record holder is still the original RB. Pokemania and all.

    XY did outsell BW1 & 2, I think? And ORAS kind of by default. Not sure how it did vs the 4th gen; I'd have to imagine less considering the DS install base at a time where the 3ds wouldn't be announced for years.
    So XY did not sell more copies of the games than 4gen?


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    R/B/G 31.38
    B/W 15.60
    X/Y 13.86
    OR/AS 9.94

    Well now, I guess people didn't jump in the nostalgia train that much.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CyberBlaziken View Post
    R/B/G 31.38
    B/W 15.60
    X/Y 13.86
    OR/AS 9.94

    Well now, I guess people didn't jump in the nostalgia train that much.
    Wow, I didn't know that. That is tis such a huge difference. So the next gen games will go under 13 million?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuvixer View Post
    So the next gen games will go under 13 million?
    Not necessarily. Remakes and third versions tend to sell slightly less. There's no predictive metric for how many units an eventual Generation VII will sell.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CyberBlaziken View Post
    R/B/G 31.38
    B/W 15.60
    X/Y 13.86
    OR/AS 9.94

    Well now, I guess people didn't jump in the nostalgia train that much.
    The 9.94 number is still quite impressive considering ORAS has been out shorter than XY; I believe it sold faster to some number (the million marker, perhaps) than XY did
    Also worth noting that BW2 did ~7.8 million which I believe is consistent with most third version & remake sales.


    Actually kind of surprised BW only sold a couple more million than XY. I figured if XY > BW it was outsold it'd be the other way around (15 vs 13k), but if BW1 outsold XY it would be by a larger magnitude. Kind of makes me think ORAS cannibalized XY's slow burn sales.

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    I thought XY outsold BW by the numbers. Bit shocked it missed out by a couple.
    ORAS did pretty decent. But I think it missed out on the general expectation. Since it is the remake we've been wanting for a while.

    3rd/Remake wise.

    Y 14.64
    C 6.39
    FR/LG 12.00
    PT 7.60
    HG/SS 12.72
    B2/W2 8.52
    OR/AS 9.94

    If you look at it, and the sales of FRLG and HGSS, ORAS does fall short, a whole 3 million.
    Other than that, it's steady in the overall.

    But considering the whole year gap, and the growing anticipation amongst the fanbase, Z sales could go beyond the at least 10 million.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Creyk View Post
    I don't expect a game announcement anytime soon. They seem to really take their time, maybe early next year...
    Same. Since they didn't bother announcing "Z" last month despite all the Zygarde info, my hopes for an announcement anytime soon have dwindled.

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    They shouldn't have bothered making ORAS in my opinion. I wish they had gone with Z instead and moved on to gen 7. I'll be pretty annoyed if we don't get an announcement in the last months of this year. We have been waiting long enough but we got Pokemon Go which is a bad idea and Super Mystery Dungeon which may not be good as they make it out to be. October or November is the months that I hope would announce the next main series game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander18 View Post
    They shouldn't have bothered making ORAS in my opinion.
    Yes dude we know about your vendetta against Oras we don't need another reminder...

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    IIRC sales for initial games and remakes trend downward each generation, except Gen 4 outselling Gen 3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Excitable Boy View Post
    IIRC sales for initial games and remakes trend downward each generation, except Gen 4 outselling Gen 3
    I was curious as to how much DP sold and
    As of October 15, 2013, Pokémon Diamond and Pearl combined have sold 17.63 million copies worldwide, making their sales totals around one million higher than those of Ruby/Sapphire and around six million higher than those of FireRed/LeafGreen.
    Goodness

    Though kind of impressive that BW1 almost reached that despite being on the market for a shorter period. Power of the DS install base I guess.

    Anyway I kind of doubt Z will hit 10 million. 7-8 million seems right. ORAS had nostalgia and a different set piece going for it if nothing else.

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    Well, Diamond and Pearl were the start of the DS revolution. As were Ruby and Sapphire for the GameBoy Advance.
    BW is impressive, even though I don't rate them as highly as the others. Never caught on me.

    You never know about Z though. A lot of people can't wait for it, the year has been hard without a new game. We're getting spoiled
    But mostly will depend on what the game can offer that'll excite us more than they did in XY.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CyberBlaziken View Post
    Well, Diamond and Pearl were the start of the DS revolution. As were Ruby and Sapphire for the GameBoy Advance.
    BW is impressive, even though I don't rate them as highly as the others. Never caught on me.

    You never know about Z though. A lot of people can't wait for it, the year has been hard without a new game. We're getting spoiled
    But mostly will depend on what the game can offer that'll excite us more than they did in XY.
    Platinum was 2 years after DP and came along side a substantial addition to the game (several, actually) but never reached that number, and that was on a huuuge install base. ORAS will likely hit 10 million but its a remake and more comparable to HGSS & FRLG.

    BW2, an actual sequel with assorted changes on a large base, also did not reach 10 million. and XY & ORAS reached their numbers with 2 versions each, Z will be on its lonesome in all likliehood

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