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    Hi everyone,

    I know there are a lot of other threads about this, but I'm interested to know

    In your opinion, what trainer/boss is the most challenging or annoying to defeat?

    Mine would probably be Cynthia in D/P
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    Besides Cynthia, another toughie would be Iris in Black2 (For me at least, it took perseverance and a truckton of potions to finally beat her...but the epicness was worth it!)

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    Cynthia in D/P/PT and Whitey and her devil tank!

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    Hardest Champion:Cynthia,especially in Diamond/Pearl.All her Pokemon have flawless IVs and Spiritomb had no weaknesses back then.Her Pokemon are also overleveled for this portion of the game.
    Hardest Gym Leader:Fantina in D/P(Confuse Ray is annoying).
    Hardest Antagonist:Probably Cyrus(Crobat kept confusing my Pokemon and causing them to flinch).
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    Many people will immediatly spit cynthia, however i was disapointed hard when i swept her with an underleveled growth roselia...Thats a big no for me.

    Ill go with Iris, Despite her teams stacking weaknesses she uses several coverage options and even boosting moves, making her battle sligthly challenging.

    Another mention goes to elesa voltswitch shennanigans. It can catch a lot of players offguard.

    And Morty Gengar is tying close to Fabtinamismagius as wake up call boses.

    As for hardest boss? Pt cyrus takes the cake since its level match that portion of the game, BW Ghetsis is at a tie with him, the pokemon with items, and that blasted hydreigon could make the match hell. Yet given his endgame battle he could be easily outleveled, or his cofragrigus much like cynthia spiritomb could be used as setup bait.
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    Honestly, the hardest gym leader was always Clay. That darned Excadrill
    Seems a bit too rough at that point in the game. I never really had much trouble with anyone else, save for my first time with Cynthia (Diamond was my first game.)
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    Hardest Gym=Whitney -Miltank, enough said
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    When I was a kid I could never beat Steven in Emerald.

    Iris was probably the easiest champion I've faced along with Alder. I actually don't even remember what Iris' team has on it. Early in W2 I caught an Axew just because but it ended out becoming my "starter" and I leveled it to be significantly stronger than the rest of my team(It was Lvl 80 by the time I fought Iris) and I just swept the entire E4 and Iris with that Haxorus. He has since become my buddy and landed in my favorite dragon types(which there aren't many of).
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    I'll move this to the poke polls section.

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    The obvious answer is Whitney and Cynthia, whom I had trouble with, but I remember Wattson the being the most trouble. I probably remember him most because Emerald was my very first game. I picked Treecko and I ran into so much trouble with Magneton even with my Aron, who had Mud Slap and Rollout. By the time I got Magneton into the yellow, Wattson used a Super Potion every time!! When I finally beat Magneton, my team was so worn down that Manectric mopped us up. It took 20 tries before I finally beat him! I have the same trouble every time I replay Emerald.

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    Cynthia and Whitney definitely come to mind. However I generally find the champions easy to beat. I also don't see what's so hard about Ghetsis' Hydreigon, I always 1 hit KO'd it with a strong fighting-type move. Probably the hardest challenge I've ever had is Gardenia, I chose Piplup and that gave me a hard time!


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    I wouldn't say that anyone you battle in the main game is hard. It's easy to defeat all of them, especially the champion.

    But I will say that I have been defeated many times in the Super Single Battle Subway in Pokémon Black.

    Getting 10 straight wins is difficult there. Of course easy compared to REAL players when battling online, but for CPU they are tough.

    So yeah I'm going with the trainers in the Super Single Battle Subway in Pokémon Black.

    The trainers in the battle tower in Pokémo Crystal were tough too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blaze The Movie Fan View Post
    I wouldn't say that anyone you battle in the main game is hard. It's easy to defeat all of them, especially the champion.

    But I will say that I have been defeated many times in the Super Single Battle Subway in Pokémon Black.

    Getting 10 straight wins is difficult there. Of course easy compared to REAL players when battling online, but for CPU they are tough.

    So yeah I'm going with the trainers in the Super Single Battle Subway in Pokémon Black.

    The trainers in the battle tower in Pokémo Crystal were tough too.
    I agree with this, granted, I was young playing Crystal, so I didn't know how to go about beating it. :P
    I found Cynthia a little difficult on my first playthrough of Pearl. Her Garchomp and Milotic gave me a run for my money.
    Marshall and Iris gave me problems as well in White2; my team wasn't that well thought-out though. lol


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    I had troubles with Whitney and Cynthia. The first time I ever faced Whitney I was a really young kid lol. Facing that Milktank was a nightmare! Then I eventually traded for that Machop in Goldenrod City, and I defeated her pretty soundly.

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    Definitely Cynthia, the biggest challenges are Milotic and the over levelled Garchomp. Lucian is another tough one due to the lack of Fire types in D/P. I did have an Infernape on Pearl, but I am reluctant to use it on Bronzong out of fear Bronzong would tank a hit then one shot it with Psychic.

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    I may be the only one who says this but Clair in Silver / Gold would be the hardest as its not long after the 7th gym and her pokemon are a crazy high level considering that game does not have many areas good for grinding and her dragons know strong moves and then she has a Kingdra which uses Dragon Pulse and it seems to critiwho at that point you won't have anything that is super effective against it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fireice View Post
    she has a Kingdra which uses Dragon Pulse and it seems to critiwho at that point you won't have anything that is super effective against it.
    True, but Kingdra's HP is horrible, and its defense and special defense stats are good but not great.

    So knocking out a Kingdra is easy with neutral damage.
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    the biggest issue is the level ups she is good 6-7 levels higher than the previous gym leader and the pokemon in between were bad xp wise so unless you spend a lot of time grinding you would likely be underlevelled when you reached her.

    It's also the same reason why I found Lance quite difficult due to level spike and hardly anything decent to gain xp from. So lots of tedius battles to try and reach a respectable level is what made the leaders tough. That game had some of the hardest leaders in the series.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fireice View Post
    the biggest issue is the level ups she is good 6-7 levels higher than the previous gym leader and the pokemon in between were bad xp wise so unless you spend a lot of time grinding you would likely be underlevelled when you reached her.

    It's also the same reason why I found Lance quite difficult due to level spike and hardly anything decent to gain xp from. So lots of tedius battles to try and reach a respectable level is what made the leaders tough. That game had some of the hardest leaders in the series.
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    Cynthia was much easier in Platinum. In diamond and pearl there weren't enough Pokemon available, and her party was over levelled.

    Another hard one for me is Ghetsis's Hydreigon in B/W.
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    Cynthia, I remember having a hard time trying to beat her
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    this may sound funny but the most trouble I had all thru Black/White was Leonara and her watchdog that used retaliate :l
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    For me, the toughest gym leader was Morty in HG, especially on my second run through. I had to wait and evolve my Magikarp, to have one pokemon that didn't get oneshotted and could hit back.
    Champion-wise, IDK. I never had too many issues with the champions, but DP Cynthia was a close one.
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    For me, is was Red in G/S.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cerrik View Post
    For me, is was Red in G/S.
    Yeah, man. That guy was tough.

    It's hard enough to train a Pokémon to their level 50's.

    But getting them to level 80's is even more difficult.

    I'm sure most of us bad problem with him.
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