PokeShipping (Ash x Misty) Discussion Thread

[JetshipperKekkaishi]

Don't you guys think future Pokeshipping is DEAD?
I think it's not because if there are still fans there will be Pokeshipping.Even if it never become canon I will keep on supporting it and you guys should too. NEVER GIVE IN,NEVER GIVE UP I have strong belive for ships that never become canon in Anime history.I will support and love Pokeshipping to hold on to those memories of the past.Pokeshippers keep on supporting XD

[BrownBear]

How would a spin-off series of future Ash and Misty go? If they ever get married and have a kid, I'd think they'd finally settle down. I can't imagine Misty going anywhere.

My guess is that it would start with their kid departing for his/her own pokemon journey, following in the footsteps of his/her father, and follow him/her from there. I think they would hearken back to Ash and Misty with some regularity, and to other characters like Brock, May, Max, Dawn, etc. with less but still some frequency. My guess is that Ash and all of the main characters would end up living in the same vicinity.

I always thought that the series would end by coming full circle and showing Ash's kid leaving with a brand new pokemon, wandering into a brave new world, but a spin-off is possible too. Well, as to the fate of AAML, if the series ends how I think it will, he's got to have a kid with someone, and I think that if he's going to have a kid with someone, it's got to be Misty. I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but come on, they've done a LOT to lead us to this conclusion (or at least I think so). And as to what was said before, the dub added a few hints, but only a few. I've seen most of the shippy episodes subbed and the hints are most certainly there. Let's not forget that the dub also removed a couple of hints. A Date With Delcatty? 'Nuff said.

Of course this is only my opinion of the ending, I think its very fitting, but I'm not a writer. The ending is really up in the air and I suppose that it could very well just end without closure. That would suck.

[Bronzong]

If the series would have ended in Kanto or Johto, I'm positive that Misty would have been Ash's wife without a doubt. Now, I'm not so sure. She's kind of a distant memory for the writers. The only thing going for us pokeshippers is that Misty has more hints than any other female has.

[Hakajin]

If they started over with Ash and Misty's kid, I think it'd be interesting if Ash disappeared and the kid had to go rescue him. That's how it is in my head, anyway, with Satsumi. No one steal that idea that I'm probably never going to write about! Haha... it's probably already been done.

[Ashist_Wilketch]

Hello Serebii.Net Pokeshipping thread,

You may know me as "The Normish" on Bulbagarden Forums

The Normish!Welcome!
and to the new Pokeshippers Welcome!!

Don't you guys think future Pokeshipping is DEAD?

I bet NOT!!As long as Supporters are there,shippers to like a certain ship specially Pokeshipping..and for those never-ending support for Pokeshipping..I think there's nothing to say that Pokeshipping will die.

I think it's not because if there are still fans there will be Pokeshipping.Even if it never become canon I will keep on supporting it and you guys should too. NEVER GIVE IN,NEVER GIVE UP I have strong belive for ships that never become canon in Anime history.I will support and love Pokeshipping to hold on to those memories of the past.Pokeshippers keep on supporting XD

*high Five* Agreed on this one too..

Memories will bring some special moments,those times how Ash and Misty spent their time together.We just have to keep strong on supporting..and NEVER GIVE UP!!That's how a shipping will always live forever..not matter what..^^

[Teshub]

What do you guys think of the fanmade live-action movie "Pokemon Apokalipse"? They have a long trailer in youtube and you can see the adult "Ash" and "Misty" kissing. Yay or nay for pokeshippers?

[Bronzong]

I forgot all about that. It's... weird. The only thing I really like about it is Meowth. As for Ash and Misty... well, the girl playing Misty looks nothing like Misty, but I guess none of the non-Pokemon look like their characters.

[xxGlassRose]

Ah, I haven't been here in ages :'D I went on a semi-hiatus from the shipping forums.
Welcome to anybody new! :3

On the "Pokeshipping being dead" thing, I'm with Pearlmasterking all the way. I won't give up. And If the writers don't do waht we want, to heck with the writers! Let's just have shipping be fun and not worry about Misty coming back or whatever. That's what fanfic's for. ;D

Speaking of fanfic, I wrote one! Well actually I'm not done. Or near done. xD
But last time I posted something it got good reception, so...
It Must Be the Sunshine
It's mainly Poke, with Ikari *shot* and TeenCare (a pairing for Brock :3). But if you don't like Ikari, then just skip the rest of the third chapter after Ash and Misty leave, and if you're adamant about your Brock pairings, skip the fourth. The story is about what would happen if Misty came to Sunnyshore City. It takes place around the time they are in the dub right now, actually. ^^

I don't really want a spin off with Ash and Misty's kid. (I have my own ideas about what a good spin off would be.) I kinda think it's simply not necessary. :\

What do you guys think of the fanmade live-action movie "Pokemon Apokalipse"? They have a long trailer in youtube and you can see the adult "Ash" and "Misty" kissing. Yay or nay for pokeshippers?

Well, the poeple who wrote this obviously like SatoKasu. xD It sounds fine to me. It's all fanmade and stuff. But if people watch it, they may start liking Ash x Misty if they never thought about it before. So I guess it's a yay. n.n

I thought it would wake this thread up if we posted cool stuff we find! Like AMVs, fanfics, etc. So I'm going to link some AMVs. :3
Dear Misty
The Day Ash Slipped Away
In Ash's ♥

[Trainer_Kay]

What do you guys think of the fanmade live-action movie "Pokemon Apokalipse"? They have a long trailer in youtube and you can see the adult "Ash" and "Misty" kissing. Yay or nay for pokeshippers?

i don't recall them kissing in the trailer... but I think it was really good.
The creators are obvious Pokeshippers and just from the little tidbits Ash and Misty seem to be in character (at least as much as they can be considering the circumstances of the trailer's plot ) so I think it's a good thing for Pokeshipping.

here is the trailer if you want to see it, but be warned as it is for mature audience(nothing too bad, just some cuss words and strong violence)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDX1m0Y2Vkg

[Hakajin]

You know, I was thinking recently about why they didn't use the BW girl trainer of Ash's new side-kick. She seems to be a popular character; when I told one of my friends they weren't including her, she kind of freaked out. But I think maybe it has something to do with her sexuality. Maybe they're trying to tone it down a bit? I don't think they did it for Pokeshipping, but if that is the reason, then it at least has implications for Pokeshipping, don't you think?

[BrownBear]

What do you guys think of the fanmade live-action movie "Pokemon Apokalipse"? They have a long trailer in youtube and you can see the adult "Ash" and "Misty" kissing. Yay or nay for pokeshippers?

I saw that trailer a few months ago and it was PURE WIN. Probably the coolest thing I've seen in my life since RoboCop riding a unicorn. Though I don't remember them kissing... I remember them hugging, but not kissing. Maybe I should watch more closely. Ash did have a framed picture of her on his desk in one scene.

Anyway, I approve of this trailer greatly, and encourage whomever made this masterpiece of fan-material to make the whole movie (though they said that they had no plans to :/ ).

You know, I was thinking recently about why they didn't use the BW girl trainer of Ash's new side-kick. She seems to be a popular character; when I told one of my friends they weren't including her, she kind of freaked out. But I think maybe it has something to do with her sexuality. Maybe they're trying to tone it down a bit? I don't think they did it for Pokeshipping, but if that is the reason, then it at least has implications for Pokeshipping, don't you think?

It's certainly possible that this is true. I would have to think more on it, but I'll tell you what my first thoughts are. I suppose when you refer to her "sexuality" you're talking about her rather short jean shorts with the pockets hanging out. With regards to that, I guess the implication for pokeshipping is that they wouldn't want such, uhh, temptations around Ash because they wouldn't want the fans to assume that he would fall for his new female companion. Maybe? I don't know. Like I said I would have to think more on it.

[Bronzong]

Isn't she supposed to be a young adult in the games? Maybe they didn't want to confuse people, and they don't like the idea of an adult female traveling with Ash.

[Moogleborg]

I saw that trailer a few months ago and it was PURE WIN. Probably the coolest thing I've seen in my life since RoboCop riding a unicorn. Though I don't remember them kissing... I remember them hugging, but not kissing. Maybe I should watch more closely. Ash did have a framed picture of her on his desk in one scene.

Anyway, I approve of this trailer greatly, and encourage whomever made this masterpiece of fan-material to make the whole movie (though they said that they had no plans to :/ ).

One of these days, i'd like to make my own full-length Pokemon live-action movie like that. Or also a intensive battling movie where Ash and Misty would constant team up and battle Team Rocket and others as well.

And when Ash and Misty (and sometimes Brock) team up, this will blaze in the background.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIBKlgn1gD4

I've also got various other ideas for Ash and Misty such as a Kamen Rider type series, possibly Street Fighter and maybe also something like a dramaedy that stars them in a reality show. ^_^

[Teshub]

We had the theater production Pokemon Live, that also presented Misty as having feelings for Ash.
It's amazing how Americans are bigger supporters of pokeshipping than the Japanese, apparently. While in that country pearl is much bigger. I know many have bashed 4Kids in the past for handling the dub, but they actually did a huge favor to the shipping. They didn't belittle it like the Japanese who even had the original head writers saying there was no such thing as Misty having feelings for Ash and other blah blah blah. It just goes to show that shipping is powered by fans, not the company itself.

[Bronzong]

From what I've heard, Pokeshipping is very strong in Japan. If the writers said Misty doesn't have feelings for Ash, they're contradicting their work. I don't know why they'd lie, though. Probably trying to make it seem more secretive than it is.

[BrownBear]

From what I've heard, Pokeshipping is very strong in Japan. If the writers said Misty doesn't have feelings for Ash, they're contradicting their work. I don't know why they'd lie, though. Probably trying to make it seem more secretive than it is.

Very true. Writers in general have been known to lie to the audience to keep them in anticipation. Whether this is true for Pokemon, remains to be seen. Personally, if the head writers deny Misty feeling anything for Ash, I think that they're lying straight out of their hindquarters. It took a lot to convince me of things when I was a kid (still does, I'm quite the skeptic) but they managed to thoroughly convince me of pokeshipping.

On a somewhat related note, I got excused from college because I have a concussion. So I'm sitting at home with nothing to do, so my girlfriend gives me an old Pokemon coloring book to keep me entertained because I'm not allowed to do anything but sleep, eat and things that don't involve screens or reading (technically not supposed to be here, but whatevs). My parents see me coloring and this sparks a conversation about Pokemon. So my point: apparently my sister and both of my parents are pokeshippers. Not like hardcore like me, but they all thought that Ash and Misty had a thing going there. My Dad got really angry when I told him that both Brock and Misty are gone for good. He was all "WTF!?". I lol'd.

[Skiyomi]

Got around to finally reading that translated thing about Misty not having feelings for Ash and am even less impressed than when I read secondary accounts. It basically comes out to: "Misty can't love Ash because we don't want this to turn into a romance." Which is just... a little silly. I understand them not wanting romance to be the central point of the show, but... does that really mean no one can have feelings for anyone? Especially since not all the writers seemed to agree on that one judging by the hints and moments they put in (writing is a collaborative process in this case).

It's just kind of lazy writing to think you have to axe a character because you can't handle her feelings in a mature way that still keeps about the spirit of the anime.

Also... I always thought the shippy hints were their way of... oh, I don't know... paying the girls off under the table. Which isn't entirely a fair assumption. Plenty of girls don't care about romance and plenty of guys are shippers, but generally speaking media uses romance to attract female audiences. So if they were worried about attracting a female audience... eh... not the best moves.

So... yeah... I know this blog has been analyzed to death, but I just had to put in my two-cents since it came up again.

(...No disrespect to Takeshi Shudo. May he rest in peace.)

On a somewhat related note, I got excused from college because I have a concussion. So I'm sitting at home with nothing to do, so my girlfriend gives me an old Pokemon coloring book to keep me entertained because I'm not allowed to do anything but sleep, eat and things that don't involve screens or reading (technically not supposed to be here, but whatevs). My parents see me coloring and this sparks a conversation about Pokemon. So my point: apparently my sister and both of my parents are pokeshippers. Not like hardcore like me, but they all thought that Ash and Misty had a thing going there. My Dad got really angry when I told him that both Brock and Misty are gone for good. He was all "WTF!?". I lol'd.

Ha! That's something I've found too! Because *everyone* within a certain age group watched Pokemon when it first came out. It was a GIANT deal, not like it is now. So when I talk to people who haven't even thought about Pokemon for years they seem to think that Misty and Ash were destined for each other and when you bring up the fact that other girls joined up with him their like "What? ...No!"

There are more nostalgic Pokeshippers then we're aware of.

[Moogleborg]

Ha! That's something I've found too! Because *everyone* within a certain age group watched Pokemon when it first came out. It was a GIANT deal, not like it is now. So when I talk to people who haven't even thought about Pokemon for years they seem to think that Misty and Ash were destined for each other and when you bring up the fact that other girls joined up with him their like "What? ...No!"

There are more nostalgic Pokeshippers then we're aware of.

I think the nostalgic factor is also what keeps Pokeshipping incredibly strong. Everybody who used to watch the original series just loved seeing Ash and Misty together. ^_^ Now that Mistys left, it hasn't been the same since, but the classic episodes is always good to watch over and over again since seeing Ash and Misty in them is something that definitely never ever grows old, no matter how many times anyone watches them. ^_^

[Antiyonder]

First off, this is my first time posting in this thread. To be perfectly honest, I tend to dabble in this ship, as well as Advance and Pearlshipping. Though I still enjoy the third ship quite a bit, watching some of the older episodes and the second movie has really brought up my interest in Pokeshipping a good deal.

Got around to finally reading that translated thing about Misty not having feelings for Ash and am even less impressed than when I read secondary accounts. It basically comes out to: "Misty can't love Ash because we don't want this to turn into a romance." Which is just... a little silly. I understand them not wanting romance to be the central point of the show, but... does that really mean no one can have feelings for anyone?

And yet they seem to have a lot of one shot stories with trainers and their love lives. I mean, yes we won't see those characters again, but still a lot of romance based episodes for a show in which romance is suppose to be nonexistent. More on my speculated belief on the next response:

Especially since not all the writers seemed to agree on that one judging by the hints and moments they put in (writing is a collaborative process in this case).

It's just kind of lazy writing to think you have to axe a character because you can't handle her feelings in a mature way that still keeps about the spirit of the anime.

Like with many shows that are reluctant to change the status quo, I chalk it down to writers who want an easy paycheck and stick to the status quo like glue. They lack ambition for the most part and therefore feel safer by sticking to the familiar.

I mean using some boy targeted cartoons we have, Gargoyles (action/adventure/drama) and Aladdin (action/adventure). They are no Shojo or Josei material, but still have an adequate amount of romance to them.


Incidentally enough, I felt I should share the link to this fanfic in the event that some here may be unaware of: http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5830471/..._Pearl_version

Basically it has Misty rejoining Ash and company during Diamond and Pearl Battle Dimension, and is an exciting read. Good on the Pokeshipping and in light of what I recently posted, it ups the romance without changing the overall feel of the anime, and still manages to keep Ash close to character.

[Teshub]

From what I've heard, Pokeshipping is very strong in Japan. If the writers said Misty doesn't have feelings for Ash, they're contradicting their work. I don't know why they'd lie, though. Probably trying to make it seem more secretive than it is.

a year ago there was a japanese poll about which shipping was most popular. i think pokeshipping placed 3rd but its hard to find now since it was done on 2ch. but you can get an idea by searching the japanese name of the shipping on google and see how many results you get. it just seems poke is stronger in the West compared to Japan. dont know why, maybe bcus they get things sooner than us.