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    Quote Originally Posted by Pokeshipper9000 View Post
    Wasn't master quest season 5? I felt like season 4 had the least interactions especially in the movies. I wish they could repay for this loss of interaction with a Misty cameo.
    I agree, especially about the fourth movie. It was all about Ash and Sam and Misty barely appeared at all. I wish she had bonded with Celebi alongside Ash or something. It was such a cute Pokemon and it would've been nice to see them together more in that movie in general. Season four was boring for me overall. Character interactions were almost non-existent and the episodes themselves felt boring. PokeShipping went through a drought during that era. :x

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorde View Post
    I agree, especially about the fourth movie. It was all about Ash and Sam and Misty barely appeared at all. I wish she had bonded with Celebi alongside Ash or something. It was such a cute Pokemon and it would've been nice to see them together more in that movie in general. Season four was boring for me overall. Character interactions were almost non-existent and the episodes themselves felt boring. PokeShipping went through a drought during that era. :x
    Indeed, I felt like they picked it up in season 5 but very little. Sad that it was the last Misty season, I had no idea she would just leave..
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    Not exactly an AAML moment in its purest sense, but gotta say I lol'd at this moment: http://youtu.be/66x39oT0TS0?t=12m7s
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maldread View Post
    Not exactly an AAML moment in its purest sense, but gotta say I lol'd at this moment: http://youtu.be/66x39oT0TS0?t=12m7s
    I loved this episode. Sure it isn't an AAML moment, but it's funny misty-ash interactions that we all miss :')
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pokeshipper9000 View Post
    Indeed, I felt like they picked it up in season 5 but very little. Sad that it was the last Misty season, I had no idea she would just leave..
    I think the writers gave her and Ash a few more interactions in Season Five since it was the last season where Misty was a main character. They probably knew that she would leave at the end of OS so they had her spend some more time interacting with Ash like at the Whirl Cup tournament. In general, I wish Misty's last episode had been two episodes instead. Maybe the first one could've focused on her finding out that she had to return to Cerulean City and then the next one could've focused on her depression about having to leave and her goodbye scene with Ash (which should've been a lot longer imo).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorde View Post
    I think the writers gave her and Ash a few more interactions in Season Five since it was the last season where Misty was a main character. They probably knew that she would leave at the end of OS so they had her spend some more time interacting with Ash like at the Whirl Cup tournament. In general, I wish Misty's last episode had been two episodes instead. Maybe the first one could've focused on her finding out that she had to return to Cerulean City and then the next one could've focused on her depression about having to leave and her goodbye scene with Ash (which should've been a lot longer imo).
    Right? Gotta Catch You Later was just to quick. The trio departed during the first 8 minutes of the episodes it didn't make any sense. I agree with your scenario. They should have written it out differently. And as for pokeshipping, in my opinion, it had only like 3 minutes of DECENT pokeshipping.
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    Yea it wasnt even the whole episodes... sometimes i dont know what thos Japanese producers are thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by koliko123 View Post
    Yea it wasnt even the whole episodes... sometimes i dont know what thos Japanese producers are thinking.
    Exactly. When that episode first aired I literally thought they would kiss...or at least a hug! Pretty forlorn when there wasn't a single hint.
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    I was also expecting them to kiss at the very least since it seemed like a really big deal that Misty was leaving, but she and Ash didn't have an extremely emotional goodbye like I wanted them to. Oh well. No use crying over spilled milk I guess. I should probably be grateful that Misty at least showed up again in AG. That at least showed that the writers cared about her somewhat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorde View Post
    I was also expecting them to kiss at the very least since it seemed like a really big deal that Misty was leaving, but she and Ash didn't have an extremely emotional goodbye like I wanted them to. Oh well. No use crying over spilled milk I guess. I should probably be grateful that Misty at least showed up again in AG. That at least showed that the writers cared about her somewhat.
    Well, every girl had a cameo themselves. Ash did seem sad, but he probably wasn't totally sad because he thought Misty would come back. When she was upset at the pokemon center, Ash said "It'll only be until your sisters come back" Which just gave me hope
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    Gotta Catch Ya Later was still the best companion goodbye episode. Very emotional.

    And Misty got that sweet montage and gave a handkerchief and she did give that key line, "Well Ash now I know how you feel about me" as if to say she understands that he really does have feelings for her and one day he'll realize it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maldread View Post
    Gotta Catch Ya Later was still the best companion goodbye episode. Very emotional.

    And Misty got that sweet montage and gave a handkerchief and she did give that key line, "Well Ash now I know how you feel about me" as if to say she understands that he really does have feelings for her and one day he'll realize it.
    I agree with you. I mean I'm not complaining, but the thing is I expected it to be written out better because I didn't know the show would have a female companion cycle. It also was very emotional (I cried and still do) but felt like it was escalated very quickly. It was very unexpected to add with it.
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    Well, every girl had a cameo themselves. Ash did seem sad, but he probably wasn't totally sad because he thought Misty would come back. When she was upset at the pokemon center, Ash said "It'll only be until your sisters come back" Which just gave me hope
    I was also expecting them to kiss at the very least since it seemed like a really big deal that Misty was leaving, but she and Ash didn't have an extremely emotional goodbye like I wanted them to. Oh well. No use crying over spilled milk I guess. I should probably be grateful that Misty at least showed up again in AG. That at least showed that the writers cared about her somewhat.
    I thin that the godbay sceen was just one huge pokeshipping sceen becous:
    1. Ashe did try and admite something to misty but than changed his mind and just said your bike is there
    2.he when he was talking he wold say thank you Misty ... wait a few seconds and only than say and brock or when thay gave him the gifts he said misty... brock
    3.he didnt crie until misty (and brock) were gone like he was acting all tough so misty wouldent see him crie
    4.the whole episode i had a feeling that the writers only focused one misty and ashe and not at all on brock
    And also wheil all the othar pokemon girls appeared in only the folowing season misty has appeared in every season in some way ,she appeared in flasbacks and got mentioned in black and wight ,mentioned in DP and so on .wheil may just got a appearenc in DP and didnt appear or get mentioned anymore(i am not counting the last flasback becous everyone appeared in that one and am not counting the lets hold hands finaly)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maldread View Post
    Gotta Catch Ya Later was still the best companion goodbye episode. Very emotional.

    And Misty got that sweet montage and gave a handkerchief and she did give that key line, "Well Ash now I know how you feel about me" as if to say she understands that he really does have feelings for her and one day he'll realize it.
    It wasn't enough imo, especially given how that episode started off as a typical episode that might've even been a filler, then things got way too depressing once it was clear that Misty had to leave. That's why I wish the episode had been split into two instead, so that Misty's farewell could've been fleshed out better. Although being the rabid Misty fan that I am, I'm probably just being selfish since I didn't want her to leave in the first place. Her interactions with Ash were part of my childhood to be honest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorde View Post
    It wasn't enough imo, especially given how that episode started off as a typical episode that might've even been a filler, then things got way too depressing once it was clear that Misty had to leave. That's why I wish the episode had been split into two instead, so that Misty's farewell could've been fleshed out better. Although being the rabid Misty fan that I am, I'm probably just being selfish since I didn't want her to leave in the first place. Her interactions with Ash were part of my childhood to be honest.
    I'm with you 100% I mean, other than that it was unexpected
    It just happened. We had no idea, the departure was too quick. Sure other episodes on other shows had a character leaving but it wasn't so quick like this one..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorde View Post
    It wasn't enough imo, especially given how that episode started off as a typical episode that might've even been a filler, then things got way too depressing once it was clear that Misty had to leave. That's why I wish the episode had been split into two instead, so that Misty's farewell could've been fleshed out better. Although being the rabid Misty fan that I am, I'm probably just being selfish since I didn't want her to leave in the first place. Her interactions with Ash were part of my childhood to be honest.
    Perhaps dragging it out might have upset the already outraged viewers who had to see Misty leave. Also, I think at that time I would reckon they maybe didn't exactly know whether Misty will be forever gone from the main cast. If the departure was more 'permanent,' then it should have been longer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maldread View Post
    Perhaps dragging it out might have upset the already outraged viewers who had to see Misty leave. Also, I think at that time I would reckon they maybe didn't exactly know whether Misty will be forever gone from the main cast. If the departure was more 'permanent,' then it should have been longer.
    That's what I mean when it was unexpected, and that's where I mean when Ash told Misty it only be until her sisters come back because the writers probably might have used another female and probably have Misty return.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pokeshipper9000 View Post
    I'm with you 100% I mean, other than that it was unexpected
    It just happened. We had no idea, the departure was too quick. Sure other episodes on other shows had a character leaving but it wasn't so quick like this one..
    Misty leaving the show really affected me since she had been there from the beginning and unlike when Brock left, I felt really sad that the main female character of the show was just being written off like that. Of course I learned to tolerate her departure eventually, but I still wish things had been different and that Misty could've traveled to Hoenn alongside Ash instead of returning to her Gym. AG would've been so much cooler if Misty had stayed; I can imagine her competing in Contests or something and Ash supporting her. They could've trained together as well which would've been cute/cool to see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorde View Post
    Misty leaving the show really affected me since she had been there from the beginning and unlike when Brock left, I felt really sad that the main female character of the show was just being written off like that. Of course I learned to tolerate her departure eventually, but I still wish things had been different and that Misty could've traveled to Hoenn alongside Ash instead of returning to her Gym. AG would've been so much cooler if Misty had stayed; I can imagine her competing in Contests or something and Ash supporting her. They could've trained together as well which would've been cute/cool to see.
    Well, I would think thy hoenn was basically the region FOR Misty. It had so many water plots, especially the 9th movie. It's sad how the perfect arc for her wasn't including her. Sigh. However, I don't think contests are a Misty thing. She's more of a trainer. Buuuut I can see the trio going together to hoenn and meeting up with May, I felt like May would ship them xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pokeshipper9000 View Post
    Well, I would think thy hoenn was basically the region FOR Misty. It had so many water plots, especially the 9th movie. It's sad how the perfect arc for her wasn't including her. Sigh. However, I don't think contests are a Misty thing. She's more of a trainer. Buuuut I can see the trio going together to hoenn and meeting up with May, I felt like May would ship them xD
    I agree about the water thing. Misty loved Water-types and Hoenn had many, not to mention all the ocean areas and stuff. I still think that if Misty had stayed in the cast in AG, she could've at least tried Contests. It could've given her another purpose and a hobby to work on. But in general, I would've just liked to see Ash and her bond some more in Hoenn, which they didn't get to do outside of Misty's return episodes, and even then they didn't interact as much as I wanted them to. :x

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorde View Post
    I agree about the water thing. Misty loved Water-types and Hoenn had many, not to mention all the ocean areas and stuff. I still think that if Misty had stayed in the cast in AG, she could've at least tried Contests. It could've given her another purpose and a hobby to work on. But in general, I would've just liked to see Ash and her bond some more in Hoenn, which they didn't get to do outside of Misty's return episodes, and even then they didn't interact as much as I wanted them to. :x
    Well, they did interact, but not as much. I mean, there was great interaction in the begging of the first togepi arc episode, until team rocket just ruined it. Ash seemed very protective over Misty which IMO was very cute. Then the second episode is where it sort of died out. When she came back again, it was pretty cute how she was there and how he was surprised and then seemed very happy. Little interaction happened during A Real Cleffa Hanger!
    Overall, I'm pretty sure there would be more pokeshipping if Misty stayed in AG considering how that was the last region where Ash's character grew a lot and IMO was the best source of development. He probably would start realizing the connection he had with Misty by then...like I said, I'm pretty sure Ash has feelings for Misty but hasn't come to realize it, and Misty has feelings for Ash but is either too shy too admit or to afraid to be rejected. We'll never know because of how the writers left it has a big cliff hanger..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pokeshipper9000 View Post
    Well, I would think thy hoenn was basically the region FOR Misty. It had so many water plots, especially the 9th movie. It's sad how the perfect arc for her wasn't including her. Sigh. However, I don't think contests are a Misty thing. She's more of a trainer. Buuuut I can see the trio going together to hoenn and meeting up with May, I felt like May would ship them xD
    True, Hoenn had so many plots and themes from which Misty could benerfit greatly developng further as character and trainer. While enriching on character interactions and atmoshere through her great personality.

    She could definitely benefit from stay in Hoenn having several unique pokemon like Mudkip, Hyuntail, Gorebyss, Peliper etc with dual characteristics which she would want to catch and diversify her team. There were water specialists like Juan and Wallace from which she could benefit and learn new things as trainer honing skills. Villains like Team Aqua and Team Magma which wanted to eradicate water typrs from earth and use them for malefic purposes, which was perfect plot to have Misty play starring role causing fury and breakdown in her wanting to stop them at any cost.

    Hoenn was plentiful with oceans, rivers, islands providing setting for writers to expand on Misty dreams expanding on what they introduced with Whirl Cup creating new water based tournaments through whichg she could advance her goal and make name for herself among other water experts in world. Requiring to develop more complex battle style and how to adapt to unfamiliar situations(like underwater battling, racing, mix of dry land and water).

    Ash could be standing by her side and supporting her to overcome issues and grow forward for a change, in return of all that unselfish motivations and encouragement Misty put in him succeeding as trainer.

    Even 9th movie screamed water everywhere dealing with prince of sea Manaphy for which Misty would be overjoyed to meet and learn its secrets. While trying out contests to see how would she manage herself in such events(i imagine she would be nervous and embarassed in things like dressing up or appeal rounds throwing tantrum if things copped out lol) and learn about new combinations of techniques coordinators use helping her in future battles.

    I also liked Misty interactions with Ash and others in Hoenn a lot. Reflecting how much their relationship and friendship evolved since early days. Being outgoing and teasing over Ash reckless behavior and his trainer skills. Irked over his attitude and Brock shameless chasing after girls coming up with sassy remarks(that ear pull from Sarah was classic).Or her usual pranks and quirky behavior she radiated with.

    As well showing lot of care and happiness in seeing Ash and others again being worried for his safety when he set himself infront of Hanson to protect her and save when being put in airship by TR. Causing admiration and astonishment through her tough, feisty demanor leaviong Ash surprised the most during badass moments like use of Gyarados.

    Interactions in surprise visit during Pallet reunion were pretty great too revealing how strong friendship and mutual support between Misty and Ash didn't wane of one bit despite long separation.

    Pokemon anime truly lost lot of charisma and charm with Misty departure being mistake to get rid of such fluid and full of potential character like Misty was. As result she ended with unfinished story(like her dream of beciming master, become renowned water expert reaching strength of E4 members, overcome her own flaws and issues in becoming more collected and open in expressing feelings like its case with sisters and obviously Ash not being sure where she stands). Being replaced when there was much more left to be done, not being given chance to get used to full potential.

    She worked best with Ash because of managing to ignite reactions from his side with her snark and strong willingness which often led to clash and comic scenes, motivate him and push to go forward not fooling around and making sure that he dont humiliate himself when glory hits him in head. But Ash himself too managing to cause conflict from Misty side awakening that caring and tender traits putting lot of dedication and effort in helping people she cares about, spuring her brash, stubborn nature and competitive spark when getting on her nerves with his stupidity and audacious behavior. Having healthy and filled with spice rivalry at times going between them and lot of witty remarks and jokes coming from her, annoyance and gratitude to be in her friends company being one which often holded main word in group. That can be noticeable during her cameos in Hoenn as well managing to add extra life to cast and bring more emotion, tension and comedy around.

    Even her last cameo Real Cleffa Hanger left so many things unanswered revealing how there still exist unfinished business with sisters when Misty shared with Max how she feels about them and frustration of not having anyone to rely and leave gym in his hands when she leaves, her future plans and way in which story and path will unfold. Along with dreams and desires of mastering water type and learn as much as she can, ambitions and desires open with no closure present.

    Nevertheless whole relationship with Ash and how she feels herself about whole thing. Coming to resolution of where she stands with feelings directed toward him.
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    This is the sad part. Aside from Mistys story being left unsaid, Misty and Ash's story was left unfinished too. But wasn't her last appearance in that movie? The 10th anniversary? Anyways, even that movie was definitely left untold. They didn't have a departure either. It just went like a real cliff hanger, as the episode stated haha.

    Also, it's pretty sad how Misty left right before the region where it was her time to shine. She may had been in more episodes than the other "Pokčgirls" but unfortunately she didn't have the amount of spotlight like them. Yeah, she had the whirl cup, and a few episodes about her....but in comparison she didn't have enough episodes focused on her unlike May, Dawn etc had many episodes focusing on them.

    Anyways, her and Ash could have also been another step closer to a relationship because I would have most likely agree he grew a lot in Hoenn, and he wouldn't be all that oblivious to love (unfortunately they dumbed Ash down in BW) I would say he could understand and put the pieces that Misty likes him during that arc and actually find out or try to see if he could have feeling so I wouldn't say Ash has a barrier over love because that isn't true. For example, there's Giselle, who he showed COMPLETE infatuation for, then there's times whenever someone would mention a "pretty girl" Ash would be alert for it (and make a snide comment about Misty)

    As much as Ash had great interaction with other of his friends, like May (especially in bicker and the better...funny episode) I would have to say his interaction with Misty was pure, funny, unique, and interesting. They fought like a married couple, they acted like your old school bickering friends who do it constantly who are MADE FOR EACH OTHER. So, I don't know when Misty will see Ash, or if she ever will...but I'll always have hope for it and look forward to that day, and I have no doubts for them to end up together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pokeshipper9000 View Post
    Well, they did interact, but not as much. I mean, there was great interaction in the begging of the first togepi arc episode, until team rocket just ruined it. Ash seemed very protective over Misty which IMO was very cute. Then the second episode is where it sort of died out. When she came back again, it was pretty cute how she was there and how he was surprised and then seemed very happy. Little interaction happened during A Real Cleffa Hanger!
    Overall, I'm pretty sure there would be more pokeshipping if Misty stayed in AG considering how that was the last region where Ash's character grew a lot and IMO was the best source of development. He probably would start realizing the connection he had with Misty by then...like I said, I'm pretty sure Ash has feelings for Misty but hasn't come to realize it, and Misty has feelings for Ash but is either too shy too admit or to afraid to be rejected. We'll never know because of how the writers left it has a big cliff hanger..
    I had great expectations for Misty's return in AG for the Togepi episodes and overall I was disappointed that she wasn't as dynamic as she was in OS. Like you said, she interacted with Ash in the first episode of her return, but Ash and Misty interactions practically evaporated in the second episode imo. Still, I shouldn't be so negative. I mean at least Misty appeared in the first place. That's something to be grateful for even if I wanted more PokeShipping moments. :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorde View Post
    Regarding when Misty started liking Ash: I think she started liking him the moment she followed him to Viridian City. I mean yeah his Pikachu wrecked her bike and all that, but Misty's dedication to following after Ash just to tell him off and get him to replace her bike was always suspicious to me. It was like she wanted an excuse to follow after him and in my mind I want to believe that she liked him upon their first encounter. Yeah she slapped him when they first met, but I still think she was curious about him. :P
    I think that too, It's a normal thing...I mean they met in such a unique way, that's what made it special. I never wanted Misty to appear in any region as much as Kalos and hoenn. (Sure I wanted her to be in Sinnoh and Unova) but hoenn screamed mistys name, and Kalos is too.
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