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    Quote Originally Posted by Hakajin View Post
    Geez, all that internal conflict is canon? I thought that was just my take on it; I didn't think the writers would go that deep. ...I'd like it if Ash became the person to support her, later in life. Honestly, I think it's good for Misty to be running the gym. She'd kind of put her own dreams on hold to follow Ash around, and... Well, of course I want them to be together, but... well, that's the conflict I'm talking about. It's encouraging that the writers thought of it like that, though, makes me think they do care about Misty. Like I said earlier, it's good that a lot of the same writers are still there. I don't think the chemistry between Ash and Misty was accidental; I don't think so many fans would've cared if the writers hadn't been invested. You can't fake something like that, feeling has to go into it. I mean, fans can develop things with their own input, but Pokeshipping seems to have meant something to a lot of people, so I don't think it was just that.

    The real reason Misty hasn't returned is that they want to use the heroines from the new generations to promote the games. I mean, what they're focused on are a)ratings and b)promotion. So as long as there are new games coming out, I think that's a trend that will continue. But! The writers kept pitching hints even when they knew Misty was leaving, even AFTER she'd left. They didn't have to do that, especially the latter. That tells me that they were making a concerted effort to say, yeah, Ash and Misty are still a thing.

    ...I would love it if Misty became a member of the E4, like Koga in Gold and Silver. That would be a great way for her and Ash to meet up again.
    Actually Misty left gym to follow her dream of becoming water master initially, pursuing it in Ash company through OS.

    Conflict im referring to involves more desire to be in Ash company again revealing clear enthusiasm and happiness when she met him and Brock in her both cameos(she was especially glad when Ash proposed that she travels with him and co on her way to Cerulean) and continuing to travel in order to achieve her dreams with gym not providing enough experience and outlet to become water master . Involving reaching heights of E4 members developing techniques and experience you cant at gym(something Cilan realized with traveling and meeting various experts allowing to learn about more creative strategies), enter tournaments like Whirl Cup was proving through prof. Elm and sea priestess Maya dialogue how there exists competitions through which you can advance water master career making name for yourself and learn from other water specialists.

    But at same time even though judging by her expressions in hosos she would rather travel in Ash company again having her own dreamt, she also feels its her obligation and duty to take care of gym and help sisters out to prevent it(her home)ending closed due to their carefree attitude. Feeling she dont have much choice currently but to stay and do her best until substitute is found or one of her sisters becomes more engaged in case she wants to go on journey and step up from current position in future.

    I notced many people refer to Misty and Ash position as relationship on distance until their lifepaths cross each other again.

    I think best chance for Misty return at least semi permanently lies in filler arcs like Orange Islands, BF or Decolora was. They are much less focused on game promotion like main regions are, with writers having more liberty in including older characters back. Generally they have more references to past,older pokemon are more promoted etc. Increasing Misty chances to return and help advertize new things through her presence. Not being tied to any region like main protagonists are being easier to transfer gym leaders from games to any region as Brock case kinda proved, and flexibillity of her water dream allowing to be taken in several directions not depending on game assets but coming from writers imagination since its anime exclusive thing.

    With story arc of going on quest to become E4 or their apprentice after proving her worth through tournaments opening logical way to progress from current position and come closer toward water master title, making sense if her story clash with Ash's at that point. Renewing that fiery competitoion between those two and measure each other strength becoming more powerful and skilled since last time they met. Lot could have changed in meantime and Misty definitely deserves such high position being acknowledged and recognized as true water expert accomplishing her dreams, while for change receiving support from Ash and encouagement in possible fear of failing to meet other expectations and if she belongs there.

    I think it would be endearing to see them meet each other after so long when they could both push each other story and restore on dynamic. Imo reason why their interactions were always so spontaneous, humorous and built with tension, emotion and lot of mutual suppot was because of those two sharing quite a few traits being similar yet so different in several aspects). Renforcing further belief how "opposites attract".
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    A fishing episode with a golden magikarp as been anounced and evey charecter will go fishing even ash (misty lure time)

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    Quote Originally Posted by POKESHIPPING4EVER! View Post
    A fishing episode with a golden magikarp as been anounced and evey charecter will go fishing even ash (misty lure time)
    Maybe, we shall see soon. The only thing is that it'll feel like a complete rehash of the fishing lure scene in DP, if we were to get any Misty cameo and a possible Pokeshipping scene, I'd like it to be more of an original scene.
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    Quote Originally Posted by POKESHIPPING4EVER! View Post
    A fishing episode with a golden magikarp as been anounced and evey charecter will go fishing even ash (misty lure time)
    I've been secretly waiting for another fishing episode and I hope that the Misty lure shows up again, not like the last time we got a fishing episode and it was ignored (in BW). I sincerely hope that Ash pulls out the lure this time; he's been more consistent lately so I hope he remembers it. I mean that's if he's still carrying it around. I hope he does have it though because it would be sweet for him to carry a memento from Misty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by POKESHIPPING4EVER! View Post
    A fishing episode with a golden magikarp as been anounced and evey charecter will go fishing even ash (misty lure time)
    Omg I sure hope so!. I will be very angry if the lure is not included when it's obviously perfect timing -.- lol!
    Even if he is just using it I will be so happy !!. Haha
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    Just yes! I really hope he uses Misty's lure (would be so funny if, right then, Misty appears randomly, but that won't be happening). Ash better make a mention of Misty if he does use her lure- or if he doesn't use her lure, at least say something ABOUT Misty.

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    Even though it would be so great to see 'Kasumi special' again, I won't let my hopes very up. The opportunity for Ash to use the lure might be perfect but writers may disappoint us again. They usually don't use this kind of opportunities. Besides we saw the handkerchief only once after Misty's departure and have no idea what happened to it then...

    I still think Ash has the lure somewhere with him. And if he uses the lure, I can only imagine his friends' reactions.

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    Well there is an upcoming fishing episode in a few weeks. Lol I'd love to see her lure again because I always found it really cute and hilarious when Misty pulled it out to fish.

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    Well the fishing episode is still about a month away so we've got to wait until it airs to see whether the lure appears ot not.

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    To be honest, even though I'd love to see it again, I doubt we would see it. Seeing her cameo as a lure isn't that fulfilling at the moment since I'm hoping for an in the flesh cameo instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuskie Tyrant Yoko Kurama View Post
    To be honest, even though I'd love to see it again, I doubt we would see it. Seeing her cameo as a lure isn't that fulfilling at the moment since I'm hoping for an in the flesh cameo instead.
    Yeah, like I said couple of posts above, I don't feel too optimistic about that Ash will pull out the lure. There of course may be good chance for that but it's up to anime creators and writers if they planned to use that opportunity. Of course I'd prefer Misty to appear personally but for now I'll manage with just a mention of her, as I think she won't return to series anytime soon.

    Anyway it would be great if Ash still has the lure somewhere hidden in his pockets. Then he kinda would always have Misty by his side in some way, like he said in 'Gotta catch ya later' when he was fighting against Team Rocket and lent Pikachu the handkerchief Misty gave him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuskie Tyrant Yoko Kurama View Post
    To be honest, even though I'd love to see it again, I doubt we would see it. Seeing her cameo as a lure isn't that fulfilling at the moment since I'm hoping for an in the flesh cameo instead.
    The Misty lure appearing would still be preferable over no Misty reference at all imo. At this point I'd even take some small reference to her like that because at least it would show that Ash still remembers her despite all his travels. I know he thought about her at the end of BW, but I'd still like for him to make a reference to her in the XY saga itself and the fishing episode is the perfect time imo.

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    It be great that Ash use Misty's lure as a good luck to capture a great water type pokemon that brings good luck to him with Mistys lure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorde View Post
    The Misty lure appearing would still be preferable over no Misty reference at all imo. At this point I'd even take some small reference to her like that because at least it would show that Ash still remembers her despite all his travels. I know he thought about her at the end of BW, but I'd still like for him to make a reference to her in the XY saga itself and the fishing episode is the perfect time imo.
    LOL If I had to choose between the two, it would be her lure of course! xD Some type of mention would be good enough for me over none at all.

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    You guys are getting my hopes up It would be really nice if the lure did appear, but I'm personally trying my best to not get my hopes up. I don't think the writer's would do a double take. But it is possible. We have to wait an entire month before that episode airs. I agree with the consensus in that I really don't think Misty will make a cameo in person, so I really am looking forward to any reference as well.

    Has there been fishing episodes in BW? I haven't watched any of the DP and BW episodes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poke-Girl9 View Post
    Has there been fishing episodes in BW? I haven't watched any of the DP and BW episodes.
    There was a fishing competition in one episode in BW. If my memory serves right, Ash and co. had to use provided equipment instead of their own so had Ash planned to use Misty's lure, he probably even wasn't allowed to.

    Ash really would have had some other opportunities to show his lure, as Cilan as a "fishing connoisseur" has a special lure of his own. It would have been hilarious to see them compare their lures and see which one is better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorde View Post
    Well even if there's nothing that's blatantly related to PokeShipping, just seeing Ash and Misty together would be good. I wish that we still got Chronicles episodes like we did in AG since those would allow Misty to appear at least. She would likely appear on her own, but she could make references to Ash at the very least which would show how much she misses him. Alas, the only special episodes that we get these days are about recent characters. :x
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    That Slowpoke thing was interesting; I didn't even remember that until now. I think it showed that Ash values Misty's safety which is why he helped her get out of the way from danger. It was very chivalrous and gallant of him and I'm glad that there were little hints like that throughout Johto, which I thought was generally devoid of PokeShipping hints most of the time.
    Right? Gee, I have some other pokeshipping pics that many people don't really point out.
    So, if Ash has Misty's lure what will he say about it? Will he take it out and show his companions?

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    Tbh I doubt Ash will even bring out his Misty lure or even mention her. The fishing lure scene from DP seems to have been a one time thing, otherwise it would have happened again by now. Besides I think that another fishing lure scene would be rehashed and unoriginal. If we were to get a Misty and a possible Poke shipping scene, I'd like to see something more original.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawn+Serena Fan View Post
    Tbh I doubt Ash will even bring out his Misty lure or even mention her. The fishing lure scene from DP seems to have been a one time thing, otherwise it would have happened again by now. Besides I think that another fishing lure scene would be rehashed and unoriginal. If we were to get a Misty and a possible Poke shipping scene, I'd like to see something more original.
    True point, but I've always loved that lure.. She will obviously get a mention but I wonder show it'll be like. Whether it's her lure, handkerchief, or just mentioning her out of nowhere I still hope we get either some pokeshipping or some flesh..
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    True. I don't expect much with any Misty cameos, mentions (by that, I mean the lure), but I do hope it.
    If XY created some sort of opening for Misty to come back (probably at the end of the series, with those extra episodes- remember that Cilan and Brock episode?), I'd be happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IcyWish View Post
    True. I don't expect much with any Misty cameos, mentions (by that, I mean the lure), but I do hope it.
    If XY created some sort of opening for Misty to come back (probably at the end of the series, with those extra episodes- remember that Cilan and Brock episode?), I'd be happy.
    I hope so too, I'm getting sick of the mentions. It's screaming "BRING MISTY ALREADY" we haven't seen her in FOREVER. She just needs to come back and hopefully have another impact on pokeshipping
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawn+Serena Fan View Post
    Tbh I doubt Ash will even bring out his Misty lure or even mention her. The fishing lure scene from DP seems to have been a one time thing, otherwise it would have happened again by now. Besides I think that another fishing lure scene would be rehashed and unoriginal. If we were to get a Misty and a possible Poke shipping scene, I'd like to see something more original.
    Unless Misty appears in-the-flesh in XY, I don't think there's anything original that the writers can do with her at this point. They can make a reference to her later, but it would probably seem forced. I wanted the Misty lure to appear in the upcoming Magikarp episode because it's about fishing, which is relevant to the lure, so a reference to Misty from that would seem a lot more natural than Ash randomly mentioning her in some other setting. I just want Ash to remember Misty; they were good friends and I always thought that Ash cared for her more than he cared about any other girl.

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    And if Ash does mention Misty, I hope it's not a dub only thing. I really disliked that the dub edit of Jirachi the Wish Maker had mentioned Misty but in the original Ash didn't even speak of her. It's things like that that get me pressed. But in the end, I did like that they mentioned her even though it started some confusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuskie Tyrant Yoko Kurama View Post
    And if Ash does mention Misty, I hope it's not a dub only thing. I really disliked that the dub edit of Jirachi the Wish Maker had mentioned Misty but in the original Ash didn't even speak of her. It's things like that that get me pressed. But in the end, I did like that they mentioned her even though it started some confusion.
    Well I don't watch the dub of the XY episodes so if there is a Misty reference later on, I would like for it to be in the original version too. I think the writers themselves should realize that character mentions like that are good for keeping fans interested in the anime. I would personally be really happy if Ash mentioned Misty and it would make me respect the writers more and I'd watch the anime regularly in the hopes of seeing more Misty references.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuskie Tyrant Yoko Kurama View Post
    And if Ash does mention Misty, I hope it's not a dub only thing. I really disliked that the dub edit of Jirachi the Wish Maker had mentioned Misty but in the original Ash didn't even speak of her. It's things like that that get me pressed. But in the end, I did like that they mentioned her even though it started some confusion.
    But that was with 4kids. The other dubbing company didn't really care about shippings so they wouldnt do that. I feel you on the Jirachi thing. I liked it at first, but then I disliked it...
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