PokeShipping (Ash x Misty) Discussion Thread

[Melody93]

Here my fanart, It's a part of a bigger picture on Deviant (I'm Melody1989 there) But heres just Ash and Misty seperate for just us pokeshippers cause we rock. (And to not get in trouble I drew this original and outline it no tracing purely my me)



When/if Ash and Misty get married, do think they would settle down to raise a family, or do you think they will keep traveling together?

My question is will Misty take over the gym and will Ash live there with her? I figure Ash would live close to home in kanto (not to mention he was offered to be a brain there). But there honeymoon just be like their last adventure together.


During the first film, where Ash is revived, say hypothetically that Misty confessed to Ash afterwards and then Ash says he feels the same way. Then Mewtwo does his thing where he wipes away everyone's memories of the events in the film. How would you have reacted, and what effect would this have on PokéShipping?

Yes! The brain wash idea. One of my favorite story ideas. Except in my version someone remembers what happens and breaks the news to Ash and Misty. Well Somehow They'll remember even if it's just a feeling, making it awkward. I remember when I thought the 2000 movie was the same and they forget all of Melody's teasing I was upset about that and thought that in a sequel they remembered.

[Nikkolas]

When/if Ash and Misty get married, do think they would settle down to raise a family, or do you think they will keep traveling together?

Well...if they get together at age 10, they better not start a family for a good while. =P
So I'd say if they got together at 10 or while they're young, they should still travel. Maybe five or so years where Ash can go to the various leagues and compete.

Once they're older though, I would say they should settle down. Ash can go to tournaments and stuff but no more wandering journeys and the like.


During the first film, where Ash is revived, say hypothetically that Misty confessed to Ash afterwards and then Ash says he feels the same way. Then Mewtwo does his thing where he wipes away everyone's memories of the events in the film. How would you have reacted, and what effect would this have on PokéShipping?


RAGE!!
J/K

I'd be happy because this be the first absolute confirmation that Ash felt that way about Misty back.
I'd be sad that they forgot that happened though. But no matter what happens, I'll always be a Pokeshipper.

Anyway, looking forward to that Evidence List.^^

[Espeonic]

That's very nice fanart, Melody. Now I have one more new topic. Because of how hints are for PokéShipping, we end up talking about why Misty feels the way she does for Ash, so my topic is:

What does Ash find attractive about Misty, if anything?

To start off, Ash actually seems to have a bit of physical attraction to her (even though it's incredibly rare). Moments like in "The Ghost of Maiden's Peak", "Beauty and the Beach", and "March of the Exeggutor Squad" come to mind. I also bet he like how she argues with him...in an unusual sort of way. Ash is the type of person who seems to respect people who can stand up for themselves, even if they're standing up to him.

Another thing I've notice is that when Ash praises her for doing something great, Misty kind of ignores it and seems to think of it as cheap flattery. Like in the final scene in "The Misty Mermaid". An obvious exception to this is "Gotta Catch Ya Later!", and in "As Clear as Crystal" where Ash off-handily comments that Misty doesn't need beauty sleep. But I think according to one of Melody's PokéShipping Commentaries, that wasn't said in the original Japanese version. Ash also seemed to have a newfound respect for Misty since she became a Gym Leader as well.

[Swifty]

Nikkolas, you're really cutting on the edge here. As much as the rules say "No one-liners", your post is barely acceptable for the type of posts we expect in this thread. Have something more significant and more in-depth in your later posts please.

[Nikkolas]

Well, I'll rephrase my question then....
Espeonic said:

Ash also seemed to have a newfound respect for Misty since she became a Gym Leader as well.

Misty has been the de factor Gym Leader of the Cerulian Gym since the start hasn't she? Her sisters apparently never did anything but put on swimming shows. Plus Ash has battled her a couple times in pokemon duels.

I don't think her settling down and becoming the Gym Leader would make him respect her anymore.

[jigglypoof]

What does Ash find attractive about Misty, if anything?

Well, I think he definitely notices that she's pretty (like in the above mentioned episodes) even if it's few and far between. He's probably also drawn to her confidence and energy (being energetic himself) and may even purposely try to get under her skin just so she'll argue with him. I'm sure he's happy with the fact that she's not that girlie, and therefore won't spend her time picking out something to wear or painting her toenails rather than battle or rough it in the woods. Granted, she is a bit feminine but it's not as bad as it could be and is not the intolerable "Ew, I'm not sleeping in the dirt!" or "That Pokemon broke my nail!" variety (as far as he's concerned)

[Swifty]

It's kinda interesting finding the point when Ash started getting attracted to Misty. I don't think he really found her attractive until he finally saw her in a swimsuit whereupon Ash mentions that it was the first time he really saw Misty as a girl. It's interesting seeing that it wasn't until after that episode where Ash finds himself interested in Misty's appearance (Mesmerized by her wearing a kimono dress and teasing her about wearing a sexy Playboy Goldeen suit)

[Blazing Charmander]

What does Ash find attractive about Misty, if anything?

Like jigglypoof and Swifty mention above, one factor is certain to be Misty's looks. However, it did take some time to convince Ash of his attraction towards her. I guess the first times that he really began to notice her in that way were in Beauty and the Beach ("well, it's just strange to see you looking like a girl..." *Misty floors him*), and the infamous Ghost of Maiden's Peak, where she arrives to dance with him in a kimono and he is left breathless. However, i'd probably say that Ash began to become more tolerant towards Misty herself once she had mellowed out with him (i.e. discarded hard feelings about her bike) and he gained a new-found affection for her. This would be shown through their petty arguments, which you'd probably say was a cover for their feelings about each other.

I guess my insight is meaningful as it comes on the back of me just watching Pokemon, I Choose You, Pokemon Emergency and Ash Catches a Pokemon, where Ash and Misty aren't on best terms with each other due to the whole bike issue. It is interesting to note, however that there are still signs present that both are warming to each other. On Ash's side, he was genuinely taken aback when he thought that this girl was concerned about him after saving him from the river (although Misty claimed that she was only asking Pikachu), and later grabbing and twirling her around when catching Caterpie. Meanwhile, Misty is primarily unmoved by Ash's clumsiness and determination to do well as demonstrated by her coldness towards Ash's suggestion that she treat Caterpie better. This is where we see the first flash of infatuation from Misty though, when she stands with her hands by her back and observes that "i've never known anyone like him, he really likes Pokemon". It's also interesting to note that when Ash challenges her on why she's following him and Pikachu, she stumbles before making the excuse of her bike.

What are the thoughts of you guys on the interactions of Ash and Misty in those early days?

[Melody93]

That's very nice fanart, Melody. Now I have one more new topic. Because of how hints are for PokéShipping, we end up talking about why Misty feels the way she does for Ash, so my topic is:

What does Ash find attractive about Misty, if anything?

To start off, Ash actually seems to have a bit of physical attraction to her (even though it's incredibly rare). Moments like in "The Ghost of Maiden's Peak", "Beauty and the Beach", and "March of the Exeggutor Squad" come to mind. I also bet he like how she argues with him...in an unusual sort of way. Ash is the type of person who seems to respect people who can stand up for themselves, even if they're standing up to him.

Another thing I've notice is that when Ash praises her for doing something great, Misty kind of ignores it and seems to think of it as cheap flattery. Like in the final scene in "The Misty Mermaid". An obvious exception to this is "Gotta Catch Ya Later!", and in "As Clear as Crystal" where Ash off-handily comments that Misty doesn't need beauty sleep. But I think according to one of Melody's PokéShipping Commentaries, that wasn't said in the original Japanese version. Ash also seemed to have a newfound respect for Misty since she became a Gym Leader as well.

Thanks, First time making AAML with paint.net. I plan to do more.

I don't remember translating that scene, I know I did the scene misty said she like Ash as a pikachu but I can't find the translations for the other scene. I wouldn't be surprized if it wasn't the same as in the dubbed (Basicly Ash was saying Misty was so beautifull she didn't need beauty sleep XD) I need to go back and watch my commentaries on my other computer.

What does Ash find attractive about Misty, if anything?
Well from Beauty and the Beach her body look like a girl to him (even if it was the first time I saw her that way)

and the times Misty shown tears for Pokemon (like with togetic and most other girls (why crying is like being sexy for girls in Japan I don't understand? Here American kids must think Dawn is a crybaby lol)

What are the thoughts of you guys on the interactions of Ash and Misty in those early days?

Reminds me on Angie and Ash now, except Ash has mature with Angie. It funny to see them meet again for the first time now that they're matured. But I think it better they went through the immature phase together and they can look back laugh. I've notice theres alot of flashback in the anime now (like in Doc Brock when Pikachu got sick in the beganing of hoenn) So apparently Ash remember alot then I realize so hopefully Ash remember those days.

[Milotic17]

That's a very nice fanart, Melody93. I really like it!

Here's a random factoid for the day for you all. You know how in Jirachi: Wish Maker Ash says that he has a friend who he misses everyday? Well, apparently in the Spanish dub of the movie he says he misses his "mejor amiga," meaning he misses his best friend. Also, because "amiga" is feminine in Spanish, we know he's referring to a girl; who could it be at that point in the anime besides Misty? Apparently, according to the Spanish dubbers, Misty is Ash's best friend; they must be Pokeshippers! Of course, this means next to nothing in terms of canon, but I still think it's pretty cool information (courtesy of Bulbapedia).

What does Ash find attractive about Misty, if anything?

Well, we know he finds her physically attractive based on episodes like Ghost of Maiden's Peak, so I suppose that's a start. I think Ash also finds Misty's fighting spirit attractive and her love for Pokemon. Besides that, I think Ash may admire Misty's caring nature (she is really sweet and caring deep down) and maybe even her fiery spirit (and temper?). I think Ash may find Misty's skill as a trainer attractive, too. Darn, it's hard to put into words what Ash might find attractive about Misty and why he looks at her differently than he does the other girls (I realize things like "love for Pokemon" and "skill as a trainer" apply to Dawn and May as well), but I really think he does.

What are the thoughts of you guys on the interactions of Ash and Misty in those early days?

This is going to sound beyond corny, but I think the early interactions between Ash and Misty mirror those of two people who have crushes on each other: a lot of petty bickering and fighting that doesn't really mean anything and that is meant to cover up a person's true feelings. Now, though, I would say that Ash and Misty have progressed beyond the crush stage and really love each other; their relationship is marked more by mutual respect and caring, not bickering and fighting (though, of course, there's still some teasing for good measure)...at least that's how I see it.

[Melody93]

That's a very nice fanart, Melody93. I really like it!

Here's a random factoid for the day for you all. You know how in Jirachi: Wish Maker Ash says that he has a friend who he misses everyday? Well, apparently in the Spanish dub of the movie he says he misses his "mejor amiga," meaning he misses his best friend. Also, because "amiga" is feminine in Spanish, we know he's referring to a girl; who could it be at that point in the anime besides Misty? Apparently, according to the Spanish dubbers, Misty is Ash's best friend; they must be Pokeshippers! Of course, this means next to nothing in terms of canon, but I still think it's pretty cool information (courtesy of Bulbapedia).

What does Ash find attractive about Misty, if anything?

Well, we know he finds her physically attractive based on episodes like Ghost of Maiden's Peak, so I suppose that's a start. I think Ash also finds Misty's fighting spirit attractive and her love for Pokemon. Besides that, I think Ash may admire Misty's caring nature (she is really sweet and caring deep down) and maybe even her fiery spirit (and temper?). I think Ash may find Misty's skill as a trainer attractive, too. Darn, it's hard to put into words what Ash might find attractive about Misty and why he looks at her differently than he does the other girls (I realize things like "love for Pokemon" and "skill as a trainer" apply to Dawn and May as well), but I really think he does.

What are the thoughts of you guys on the interactions of Ash and Misty in those early days?

This is going to sound beyond corny, but I think the early interactions between Ash and Misty mirror those of two people who have crushes on each other: a lot of petty bickering and fighting that doesn't really mean anything and that is meant to cover up a person's true feelings. Now, though, I would say that Ash and Misty have progressed beyond the crush stage and really love each other; their relationship is marked more by mutual respect and caring, not bickering and fighting (though, of course, there's still some teasing for good measure)...at least that's how I see it.

Thanks that's good to hear.

Sadly that hint in the japanese isn't the same: Oh my site and Dogasu confrim it was different, Ash is talking about how Jirachi sleep for years but it just like a second for him. However don't think Ash has never missed Misty, I don't believe that. I can see direct tranlations of that scene on my site.

I just watch the shaymin movie and Ash and Shaymin relationship like Ash and Misty in a way. I hear the Song: One was dedicated to their relationship where Shaymin secretly loves Ash in the lyrics. It's cute! Ash even hopes to see Shaymin again so I believe Ash misses and wants to see Misty again.

[Mandi.]

What does Ash find attractive about Misty, if anything?

You can definitely tell Ash has found Misty attractive physically. Like Milotic stated in 'Ghost of Maiden's Peak.' I can't quite remember any other times. But he does find her looks attractive, that's for sure.

As for personality. Even though he can't stand it, you know he loves it deep down inside when she gets all firey at him. In a way, he seems to like to get on her nerves to make her angry ..but then she out-smartens him right away, and he gets all stubborn ..and their fights start. (OH HOW I MISS THOSE TWO!!) But Ash knows that Misty is very smart and caring as well. And I'm sure he likes how she's independent and she doesn't take crap from nobody. That definitely makes an attractive chick, I think.

What are the thoughts of you guys on the interactions of Ash and Misty in those early days?

THEY WERE MY FAVORITE. Like. First few seasons Ash and Misty ..were like my favorite interactions between two characters. And I agree with Milotic again. It did mirror two young children who have crushes on each other. The bickering, angry arguments starting over silly things, calling each other 'stupid, ugly, ect.' TOTAL CRUSHING! ;D But, man I miss those moments so much. Like it seems in every single episode, those two would get into a huge argument over something new, that normally ..people wouldn't really get that upset over. xD And back then, Ash was so much more slow and dense and stubborn ....and adding Misty with her temper ..just added great interactions between them.
I really do miss them.

But o: I can always re-watch the older episodes! Even though it's really not the same. D:

[jigglypoof]

What are the thoughts of you guys on the interactions of Ash and Misty in those early days?

Both hilarious and cute at the same time. Their constant bickering/teasing was never boring (Misty's yelling, Ash's "Wha?!", it goes on). Put them in a room together and you had comedy gold. But you also saw a soft side. Remember that scene in the Pokemon Center they'd taken that abandoned Charmander? You know, where Ash and Misty are sleeping with their heads almost touching? Yeah. Even the small things like holding hands so as not to lose each other in the dark, or blushing when accused of acting like they liked each other. I miss that so much. I really do.

[Moogleborg]

What does Ash find attractive about Misty, if anything?

I think finds Misty incredibly beautiful and one of the most powerful trainers that hes ever gone up against, as well as one of his most cherished and most important friends. Although if Misty still had the 'Ash Ketchum broke my bike' attitude, she'd probably give Ash the mallet pronto. ^^

Although who knows.....

What if Ash did openly give Misty a compliment? Just right now.

Especially since he has given Misty some comments, but most of that wound up having Master Ball shaped beach balls thrown at his face.


What are the thoughts of you guys on the interactions of Ash and Misty in those early days?

The Ash and Misty interactions back in the day, and forever always are the reasons why I watched the series for a majority of time. ^_^ I mean either if they were quarreling, battling, or just having fun with each other, Ash and Misty interaction is why I mostly look into it. ^^

Sadly, interactions with other lady characters can't quite cut it.....it lacks the interaction, energy and kawaiiness that Ash and Misty had. ^_^

Also, for a late Valentines Day present to everyone, heres a video I found from a friend off of Deviant Art. ^^ Enjoy everyone!

http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...-+It+Takes+Two

[Espeonic]

Misty has been the de factor Gym Leader of the Cerulian Gym since the start hasn't she? Her sisters apparently never did anything but put on swimming shows. Plus Ash has battled her a couple times in pokemon duels.

I don't think her settling down and becoming the Gym Leader would make him respect her anymore.

I suppose not. But remember that even though her sisters didn't take the job seriously (and still don't), they pretty much shoved Misty out of the spotlight as a Gym Leader and they even refered to her as "the runt of the family". She became more recognized as the Gym Leader when she realized what kind of reputation the Cerulean Gym had under the care of her sisters (who decided to take a trip around the world at the time).

I guess it was just more obvious to me what kind of respect Ash has for her in episodes like "Gotta Catch Ya Later!" and "A Togepi Mirage!" since they happened around the time she became the Gym Leader.

What are the thoughts of you guys on the interactions of Ash and Misty in those early days?

Back in the day, when I was first watching the anime, I actually kind of hated their interactions with each other. The two reasons why were I had a love-hate relationship with the first season and I also used to find Misty extremely irritating. She always seemed to be on Ash's case about everything. I did notice moments like in "The Ghost of Maiden's Peak" and "The Tower of Terror", but I quickly dismissed them because it didn't make sense to me. Heck, I didn't comprehend why Misty was following him in the first place. Just to get her bike back? Needless to say, I had an incredibly poor perception of not only Misty, but love-hate relationships as well.

During the Orange Islands, the hints became more apparent and I started to like their interactions, even though I didn't like "Navel Maneuvers" at first, because it annoyed me how Misty ignored Ash throughout the episode. By the time I watched Pokémon the Movie 2000, I started loving their interactions. Misty, on the other hand, I didn't really understand and loved he until the Mirage Kingdom episodes. After seeing those episodes, Ash and Misty became my favorite characters of the series. Too bad it happened seven seasons into the show, well after her leaving the main cast.

But now that I have a better understanding of Ash and Misty's relationship, I would probably really enjoy their interactions during the first season.

[shadow_shipper]

What does Ash find attractive about Misty, if anything?

Not her looks. At least, not while they were travelling together...
He would have been drooling over her like he was over Giselle. And for those who say the he wouldn't because they were too young, well, he didn't drool when he saw her in Pallet.
I don't know what he thinks...
Personally, I find Misty beautiful since she appeared in the Mirage Kingdom episodes, and I'm sure he does too, but...maybe he's used to her in a way ? Go figure...

I don't believe there's anything that attracts him to her. Otherwise, it would be obvious to us (me ?), wouldn't it ?
There's just something going on between them, since they've seen they can live together, they can travel together, fight together, they can do everything together ! Ergo, they could be a couple ^^

It's more than attraction, it's time. Time has passed, and they are still getting along well.
Wht I'm afraid of, is if too much time has passed, and they remain friends.

[Blazing Charmander]

Back in the day, when I was first watching the anime, I actually kind of hated their interactions with each other. The two reasons why were I had a love-hate relationship with the first season and I also used to find Misty extremely irritating. She always seemed to be on Ash's case about everything. I did notice moments like in "The Ghost of Maiden's Peak" and "The Tower of Terror", but I quickly dismissed them because it didn't make sense to me. Heck, I didn't comprehend why Misty was following him in the first place. Just to get her bike back? Needless to say, I had an incredibly poor perception of not only Misty, but love-hate relationships as well.

During the Orange Islands, the hints became more apparent and I started to like their interactions, even though I didn't like "Navel Maneuvers" at first, because it annoyed me how Misty ignored Ash throughout the episode. By the time I watched Pokémon the Movie 2000, I started loving their interactions. Misty, on the other hand, I didn't really understand and loved he until the Mirage Kingdom episodes. After seeing those episodes, Ash and Misty became my favorite characters of the series. Too bad it happened seven seasons into the show, well after her leaving the main cast.

But now that I have a better understanding of Ash and Misty's relationship, I would probably really enjoy their interactions during the first season.

Ya know, that is exactly identical to how I came to like Ash and Misty as a couple. As an 8 year old watching through the show for the first time in 1999, I had absolutely no concept of love and was constantly confused about Misty's attitude towards Ash. One minute, she was bashing him around physically and verbally for her bike and his denseness, and then the next she'd be really caring towards him. I guess I sort of picked up on the hints vaguely in the likes of 'Ghost at Maiden's Peak', but never gave them a second thought.

I guess I first really noticed and truly began to like Pokeshipping upon watching Pokemon 2000. The hints there were too obvious not to notice and I realised thereafter the quirks of Ash and Misty's love-hate relationship. A few years later (about 2003) I stumbled upon Serebii.net/forums and soon after the Pokeshipping thread. I used to love reading the interpretations of others about Ash and Misty's interactions and how they felt they pointed towards romance. It was then that I started to rewatch the old episodes and really take notice of their early interactions. For example, I had never noticed Misty's infatuated daydream in Viridian Forest about how Ash really cares about Pokemon, nor the significance of her pining over Ash's lifeless body in Lavender Tower.

And that, folks is my Pokeshipping life story.

[Swifty]

What does Ash find attractive about Misty, if anything?

Not her looks. At least, not while they were travelling together...
He would have been drooling over her like he was over Giselle. And for those who say the he wouldn't because they were too young, well, he didn't drool when he saw her in Pallet.
I don't know what he thinks...
Personally, I find Misty beautiful since she appeared in the Mirage Kingdom episodes, and I'm sure he does too, but...maybe he's used to her in a way ? Go figure...

I don't believe there's anything that attracts him to her. Otherwise, it would be obvious to us (me ?), wouldn't it ?

Are you serious? There's been like, a series of post before yours detailing instances of when Ash found Misty attractive.

It's kinda interesting finding the point when Ash started getting attracted to Misty. I don't think he really found her attractive until he finally saw her in a swimsuit whereupon Ash mentions that it was the first time he really saw Misty as a girl. It's interesting seeing that it wasn't until after that episode where Ash finds himself interested in Misty's appearance (Mesmerized by her wearing a kimono dress and teasing her about wearing a sexy Playboy Goldeen suit)

[shadow_shipper]

My opinion, it's worth what it's worth :/
I seriously thinking that he's attracted to her that much physically...except when she dresses up, then, of course, he sees her as something special.

But besides the special occasions, I don't remember him mentioning anything about her looks...
He likes her personality I guess. Not her every day looks.

[FullMetalAlchemist]

New Topic:

What songs do you think symbolize Pokeshipping best?
There's the obvious Misty's Song for one of them. But recently, I fell in love with "Everything I Do (I Do It For You)" by Bryan Adams (it was featured in a recent Family Guy episode). I think the lyrics are great symbols of Ash's love for Misty:
Look into my eyes - you will see,
What you mean to me.
Search your heart - search your soul,
And when you find me there, you'll search no more.

Don't tell me it's not worth tryin' for.
You can't tell me it's not worth dyin' for.
You know it's true,
Everything I do - I do it for you.

Look into your heart - you will find,
There's nothin' there to hide.
Take me as I am - take my life,
I would give it all - I would sacrifice.

Don't tell me it's not worth fightin' for.
I can't help it - there's nothin' I want more.
You know it's true,
Everything I do - I do it for you.

There's no love - like your love.
And no other - could give more love.
There's nowhere - unless you're there.
All the time - all the way.

Oh - you can't tell me it's not worth tryin' for.
I can't help it - there's nothin' I want more,
Yeah, I would fight for you - I'd lie for you.
Walk the wire for you - yeah, I'd die for you.

You know it's true.
Everything I do. all, I do it for you.

At parts, Adams' voice reminds me of Bon Jovi, also known for doing some love songs. But this song, is one of the best to symbolize the P-Ship. There are others I know, so I want to hear what you have to say. So, please answer if you have any songs.