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    No no no!

    Do NOT restart for a new ID! Keep going on that ID, and you will get your shiny Torchic soon. Trust me.
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    ShinyFuFu, he's using Ruby/Sapphire, the ID and SID numbers have nothing to do with the shinies in these games.

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    Yeah, I use Ruby. I restarted and have this ID now: 23958.
    Will reset while rewatching The Simpsons.
    1st Shiny: 10 May 2009 - Charmander (FireRed)
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    Just got my shiny Torchic on Ruby! After ~4375 minutes (~73 hours!!) of resetting, I finally got it!
    That's around 13500 resets I think?

    Met 2 shiny Poochyena while resetting: one after 1441 minutes and one after 4044 minutes. Then I decided to start a new game, with a new ID ofcourse.
    331 minutes resetting after the new ID, I got it.

    Female Torchic
    Quirky nature (neutral)

    IV calc doesn't work for me so I give the stats:
    HP 20 / Atk 11 / Def 9 / SpAtk 13 / SpDef 10 / Speed 10

    Is it useful for fights online or not?
    Anyway, I'm happy I finally have it.
    Next target: Chimchar on Platinum. :P
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    I just found a shiny kyogre in Sapphire in less than 4,000 resets!

    Here are it's stats: Quiet nature
    HP: 154
    Atk: 106
    Def: 96
    SP.ATK: 162
    SP.DEF: 141
    Spd: 87

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    Quote Originally Posted by Narutopokedude View Post
    I just found a shiny kyogre in Sapphire in less than 4,000 resets!

    Here are it's stats: Quiet nature
    HP: 154
    Atk: 106
    Def: 96
    SP.ATK: 162
    SP.DEF: 141
    Spd: 87
    lucky i want a shiny kyogre

    still none for me

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    still looking to hatch thath shiny magikarp no luck yet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pingouin7 View Post
    ShinyFuFu, he's using Ruby/Sapphire, the ID and SID numbers have nothing to do with the shinies in these games.
    Really? What source told you that?

    Edit: Oh yeah, I snagged a shiny Horsea from fishing encounters earlier today. It's a shiny Kingdra now.
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    Wow. Finally found this thread.

    Meh. I've only got 2 shinies both from Leafgreen:
    Unown D (Random Encounter)
    and Porygon (SReset) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u17LR08yWGo

    Has anyone else found a shiny Unown? Coz it'd be cool to have the whole alphabet in shiny lol
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    Not posted on these froums for ages, but I simply cannot believe my luck xD

    Firstly, my mate didn't want his copy of Fire Red, so he gave it to me xD

    Then, I was in Vermillion City, and I wanted a Dugtrio in Diglett Cave, but the FIRST Pokemon I found in there, and on the copy of the game, was a shiny Diglett .

    Level 19, Hardy Nature

    HP: 38
    Attack: 28
    Defense: 17
    Sp. Atk: 20
    Sp.Def: 26
    Speed: 42

    pretty sucky, but a shiny is a shiny

    Might start resetting for a Shiny Abra or Dratini in the Game Corner
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShinyFufu View Post
    Really? What source told you that?
    The fact the RNG is different than in Emerald lead me to this.

    The RNG in R/S can be scrambled by walking around in the game/etc, while the RNG in Emerald will always start at the same place no matter what.

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    That doesn't mean that the SID and ID of the game are completely out of the equation; it just means that Emerald seeds the same way every time.
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    That doesn't means the SID and the ID of the game are in the equation.

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    But you have not given proof that explicitly states that the SID and ID aren't used the creation of shinies in R/S. It would be erroneous of you to assume that they aren't, and even more so to spread that information without actually knowing it to be true.
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    Yes, the SID and ID, are the BIGGEST part of the equation; Fufu is correct.

    Anywho, I haven't posted that I got Shiny Latias here, just in the club. xD Even though I got it quite a while ago. So Yeah :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Green_Celebi View Post
    Yes, the SID and ID, are the BIGGEST part of the equation; Fufu is correct.

    Anywho, I haven't posted that I got Shiny Latias here, just in the club. xD Even though I got it quite a while ago. So Yeah :P
    They might be in the equation, that doesn't changes the fact that the RNG starts at a different place each time.

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    Nobody ever said that RNG in Ruby/Sapphire starts in the same place every time. Where'd you get that idea from? Lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShinyManic! View Post
    Wow. Finally found this thread.

    Meh. I've only got 2 shinies both from Leafgreen:
    Unown D (Random Encounter)
    and Porygon (SReset) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u17LR08yWGo

    Has anyone else found a shiny Unown? Coz it'd be cool to have the whole alphabet in shiny lol
    i have a shiny unown unown S and if we combine the 2 they form DS, which is what we play almost everyday! yay! sorry for the lack of maturity, it overwhelmed me :O

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShinyFufu View Post
    Nobody ever said that RNG in Ruby/Sapphire starts in the same place every time. Where'd you get that idea from? Lol.
    Dude, it's because you said to that other guy not to restart with a new ID because that would mess it up.

    Restarting with another ID would have no effect on your chances, since it seeds from a different place each time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwabatim View Post
    i have a shiny unown unown S and if we combine the 2 they form DS, which is what we play almost everyday! yay! sorry for the lack of maturity, it overwhelmed me :O

    lol well if someone gets G B and A, lol

    meh. still no shiny tangela. hopefully it will shine before the end of the month
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    Torchic 224 SReset (R)
    Bulbasaur - est1055 SR

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pingouin7 View Post
    Dude, it's because you said to that other guy not to restart with a new ID because that would mess it up.

    Restarting with another ID would have no effect on your chances, since it seeds from a different place each time.
    Ah, I see what you're saying...but if you encounter a shiny Poochyena on your game when SRing for a shiny starter, that means that shiny number/frame (whatever you want to call it) was just 1/60th of a second too early. Since that is the case, and since the shiny number (and every other non-shiny number for that matter) is thrown back in at a random spot of the imaginary deck of cards that is the RNG of R/S/FR/LG, it is much more advisable to keep your current file instead of SRing for a new one.
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    I'm pretty sure every save file has the same amount of shiny frames in their RNG, since if there wasn't the same amount of shiny frames, the 1/8192 shiny rate wouldn't be the same on everyone's game.

    Correct me if I'm wrong.

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    You are slightly wrong. Some people may have more or less shiny frames than others. This is because the same flawed RNG is responsible for Pokémon's personality values. As such, so personality values have multiple frames, while others are unobtainable. This means that the number of shiny frames will vary slightly from game to game.

    However, overall, it balances out; on average, a game does have a 1/8192 chance. The differences between games are so small, it doesn't really affect the chance by much; however, they do exist.

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    So does that means it's impossible to get a certain combination of IV's + nature + shinyness on a save file if there's no frame for it in the file's RNG?

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    Well, technically, yeah.
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