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    Legendary pokemon are vital parts of every pokemon game. These games are obviously centered around Ho-oh and Lugia, and we are also probably getting the legendary dogs like in the original ones. But since the Gold and Silver were released, other legendaries have been revealed. So what other legendaries do you expect finding in the games? And for those ones we know, i.e. Raikou, Entei, Suicune, Lugia, Ho-oh, where and at what levels do you expect to find them?

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    I don't believe we will be able to obtain any of the new legendaries within the game. They are available in all the other games and it would be pointless to have them in this one. The only event pokemon I can see being obtainable in HG/SS is Celebi, at either toys R us or Wi-fi. Maybe at a low level like the mew giveaway a few years back. I think that we'd find the legendary dogs at level 40 and Ho-oh/Lugia at 40 or 70 depending on the game like before. I don't see what reason they would have to change it personally.
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    I expect Ho-oh and Lugia to be in the same postions as G/S at level 50 as for the dog I think they will runners again at lvl 40 but I would prefer set postion for them


    
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    I personaly dont think any new legendarys will appear. (except for celebi)

    Lugia and ho-oh would be at the same levels the dogs would be lv 40 runners.

    maybe mew will get an island like in emerald/FR/LG but I doubt it.



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    I'd be well and fine with just being able to catch Lugia, Ho-oh, and the three roaming legends, but of course, a Celebi event would make me (and many others) quite happy.

    Now if I wanted to see one of the newer legends to be caught prior to getting the National Dex, I wouldn't mind if they allowed another chance at capturing Mewtwo in the Cerulean Cave (which was normally blocked off in G/S/C), or for one of the newer legends, perhaps Cresselia.
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    I would have to place my bets on:
    Lugia and Ho-Oh will be encountered on their respective versions at lv.47 (like Dialga, Palkia and Giratina in their respective versions), while in the opposite versions (e.g. Ho-Oh in SoulSilver) will be lv.70, just as Dialga and Palkia were in Platinum and Groudon and Kyogre were in Emerald, also weren't they lv.70 in the original Gold and Silver?

    Legendary Beasts - I would have to say they will roam at around level 50, as all runners post-Lati@s have, it would also fit better into the game if they did choose to alter the levels of opponent's pokemon to make it harder.

    As for additional legendaries, Celebi will 99&#37; be in the game as an event. I would expect to encounter it at around level 30, as with the Faraway Island Mew and Flower Paradise Shaymin of past games.

    As for other legendaries being in the game, beyond those it goes into speculation. All the trios will be available in the fourth generation following this game, so I doubt we'd see any of those. The white rock in Kanto thing raises questions, as they did re-use events in Firered and Leafgreen for Emerald, so we may see Shaymin again. Also, I'm a bit confused as to why they've announced this game, but no Arceus WiFi event for Platinum, which makes me think that either they will delay the GS Ball event (which considering how close the Secret Key event was to Platinum's release seems unlikely) that Arceus might also be available in this game, which would actually bring the total up to three, putting it the same as DPt and one behind Emerald (I see no reason to add in Darkrai really). However, Arceus may be a bit of a dodgy move, as it is linked deeply into Sinnoh's mythology, which is why I don't expect to see Groudon, Kyogre or Rayquaza in these games.
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    I think every Pokemon that is considered legendary in Johto (except Celebi), will be found in the same spot.

    But, I think they'll add Shaymin/Arceus to the remakes, like how they added Deoxys to LeafGreen/FireRed.

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    I could see the Lati@s being released in the post-game.
    Since, hey, if the birds can be running around Sinnoh (also a legendary dog running around Kanto 3 years earlier........) why can't the bird...dragon...twin....things be running around Johto/Kanto

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    One thing I'd like to see are special held items for the runners- Equip it to your lead pokemon and go to a certain route that might be close to Ecruteak or something, and the runner will appear. Otherwise, it'd be the standard runner-stuff. The beasts should be level 45-50 (probably 50), and Ho-oh/Lugia at the same 40/70 as in the original games.

    I would hope for Latios and Latias (one or the other, honestly) to appear in each game, again with the special held item clause as well as something to unlock 'em. Celebi would be nice to have available as well, and I almost think Jirachi might become some sort of event pokemon too. Since I've neither fought one or seen anyone that has either of the latter two, I'm not really sure what level they should be at when found.

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    I wouldn't mind seeing the Lati@s pair being version exclusives roaming around Kanto.
    Latios for HeartGold and Latias for SoulSilver.


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    I'd actually like to see Latias and Latios as runners after you get the National Dex, and Cerulean Cave opened up, to allow access to Mewtwo.

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    Ho-oh and Lugia at Levels 40 and 70 depending on the game, and the Legendary Dogs at Lv 30 and running.

    I wouldn't mind seeing Mewtwo around Level 70 back in Cerulean Cave or Celebi around level 10/20 after you get the National Dex(if they have it).

    I wouldn't mind seeing Latios and/or Latias(possibly depending on the game) as running pokemon.
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    Legadary Pokemon... The Dogs and Lugia&Ho-oh will, undoubtfully, be making an appearance. Maybe Celebi, too. But others? Nah, maybe not. I can't picture any other Legends other than the already mentioned ones. Platinum already has tons and TONS of Legendaries, as it is. We don't need anymore like the Birds or something... Am I missing any other Pokemon? I forgot...

    EDIT: Actually, as already mentioned, the Latias/Latios thing sounds like a good idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alloute View Post
    I think every Pokemon that is considered legendary in Johto (except Celebi), will be found in the same spot.

    But, I think they'll add Shaymin/Arceus to the remakes, like how they added Deoxys to LeafGreen/FireRed.
    Actually, Deoxys was a LeafGreen/FireRed event later added into Emerald =3.

    Lati@s being in the game is an interesting idea, considering Gen I and Gen III run on the same timeline, one could say they that the non-version exclusive Lati@s fled to Kanto after the elite four, leaving the other one in Hoenn (Latios from Ruby going to Kanto), and as there are two versions, both of them go to Kanto ready for Generation II/IV
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    I think it would be neat to have in game events for Celebi, Mew, Shaymin, and Jirachi. That would be all the event legendaries and then they could end it there. I don't see the need to flood it with legendaries ala Platinum.
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    I think that we'll find ho-oh and lugia at lvl 50 but dunno where and if most likely we r goin to get the dogs after the E4 then they'll more likely gonna be lvl40-60
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    I swear if they pull a FR/LG on us and change the where-abouts of a legendary I may have to punch somebody >_>
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    But, I expect to see Ho-oh/Lugia (DUH), the Dogs, Unknown (it's still considered legend, right?) and Celebi for at least the Jhoto Dex, afterwords maybe some wi-fi exclusives could be allowed, seeing as some people, like me, live nowhere near a Toys 'R' Us, and refuse to drive 2+ hours to get some pixels on a video game. Mew, Jirachi (my gamecube destroyed my copy of Pokemon Channel, then it died), and maybe even the... Latis could be introduced to the game, because some people will of course of a DSi and not a Lite or original, all their friends may dislike pokemon, and not have wifi. So could the weather beasts for the same reasons.
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    Heres my predictions on legendarys and their locations:
    Mewtwo-Cerulean Cave-Lv70
    Raikou-Runner-Lv45
    Entei-Runner-45
    Suicune-Runner-45-50
    Ho-oh(HeartGold Version Exclusive)-Burned Tower-Lv47
    Lugia(SoulSilver Version Exclusive)-Whirl Islands-Lv47
    Celebi(Nintendo Event Exclusive)-Illex Forest
    Shaymin(nintendo event)-White Rock in Kanto

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    Quote Originally Posted by xXBlastBurnXx View Post
    Heres my predictions on legendarys and their locations:
    Mewtwo-Cerulean Cave-Lv70
    Raikou-Runner-Lv45
    Entei-Runner-45
    Suicune-Runner-45-50
    Ho-oh(HeartGold Version Exclusive)-Burned Tower-Lv47
    Lugia(SoulSilver Version Exclusive)-Whirl Islands-Lv47
    Celebi(Nintendo Event Exclusive)-Illex Forest
    Shaymin(nintendo event)-White Rock in Kanto
    I doubt they'd change Ho-Oh to HeartGold exclusive and Lugia to SoulSilver exclusive. Remember, both of them were available in a single game, just one was caught pre-E4 and another was post-E4. As for Mewtwo...it is plausible, as that would leave Mew as the only Gen I legendary not available in Gen IV
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    I think a cool subquest for the Kanto part of the game could revolve around Deoxys... we all know Gold and Silver's kanto needs fleshing out, and what better way to do that then have it in mortal danger from a scary alien?

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    It seems a bit dark for a family oriented game to have a "country" in mortal danger from a scary alien.
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    I can't wait to finally be able to obtain Lugia and Ho-oh in the advanced games, like the third generation and newer. I remember when my brother first told me about Ho-oh, I laughed at the name and was wondering what he was talking about. The same day, I caught it during a car trip with my family to some random store pretty far away. I most likely caught it with an Ultra Ball, since they are my favorite. I remember restarting my Gold version and catching it again with a Master Ball for fun, and for some reason it still got me excited lol. When I was trying to capture Lugia, I wasn't even sure if I was surfing the right way to get to its cave. Eventually I found it and battled it for a long time until its HP went down to red, but I don't remember having to use many Pokeballs on it. I loved having Lugia on my team even though I barely trained it; I just liked mostly everything about it. Suicune took me the longest to catch out of the second generation trio. I was so excited when I captured it that I decided I wanted train it to Lv. 100, which I did later.

    In HG and SS, I expect Ho-oh and Lugia to be at Lv. 70. I really don't know what to speculate about the legendaries, but I wouldn't mind if no new ones were added. A simple graphical remake of Johto would make me happy, and it would be awesome if new areas were added to capture specific legendaries.

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    Here's my theory:

    - Lugia and Ho-Oh will be version exclusive and will be at Level 47 (no Level 70 for the other, since it made the game too easy post-Elite 4 [like Level 70 Rayquaza])
    - Celebi will be available summer 2010 by Wi-Fi Event (I'm guessing that Movie 13 will have Celebi in it)
    - Mewtwo will be in Cerulean Cave at Level 70, which will be unlocked in a Wi-Fi event
    - Groudon, Kyogre, and Rayquaza will be on Navel Island, which will be unlocked in a Wi-Fi event
    - Latios and Latias will likely be available in the same way as Emerald
    - Shaymin will probably be on Route 25, which will be unlocked in a Wi-Fi event
    - Deoxys will still be on Birth Island, which will be unlocked in a Wi-Fi event

    And that will make Jirachi the only Pokemon not available in the fourth generation games (since you can get Mew in MPR). They may make an event for Jirachi, but it's a huge stretch. My personal theory is that Jirachi will be made available in the next Pokemon Wii Game, and they may make Groudon, Kyogre, Rayquaza, and Deoxys available in the same way.

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    (no Level 70 for the other, since it made the game too easy post-Elite 4 [like Level 70 Rayquaza])
    You've got to remember, though, that most of the Trainers even post-Elite Four were severely underleveled. Ah, I remember it took me ages to find the Rainbow Wing. Sometimes you couldn't even really find the other legendary if you didn't have a guide or weren't very old yet. It was a challenge for me to finally get to Ho-Oh in Silver.

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    I was thinking:

    Ho-Oh and Lugia exclusive lvl 47
    Mewtwo lvl 70
    Dogs lvl 50
    Celebi lvl 30
    Shaymin lvl 30
    Jirachi/Deoxys at Mt Moon
    No 3rd Gen legends (rayquaZa groudon kyogre) unless Hoenn added.
    Arceus lvl 70
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