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    Showdown in Pewter City!

    Ash Arrives in Pewter City and decides to battle at the gym and loses miserably first time round. So Ash must train Pikachu so he can beat Brock's Pokémon. Can he do it?

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    This was a great episode.....it was a good way to introduce Brock into the series.

    Too bad it was the first of the 'You didn't win, take the badge anyway' episodes. >>

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    I really wished that Ash would earn more badges in Kanto. :|

    And The whole "OMG your pikachu is so strong it can beat ground types" thing has always bothered me. :|

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    This was a nice way to meet Brock for the first time, getting to learn about all his brothers and sisters was nice. Having Brock come along with Ash was really good cuz, I think without Brock, I wonder how Ash and co would eat and who would heal their pokemon.

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    When Brock first appeared he seemed really nasty and serious.

    Lets face it, Ash didn't have a chance of winning this battle. Pikachu, Pidgeotto and Butterfree...none of them were good for this battle.

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    Ah, I remember this episode... Flint taught Ash how to cheat o_O; Seriously though, Pikachu got powered up without training, they just shoved the electricity from the power plant into him o.O;

    And I agree with the person that said Ash couldn't have won anyway, Flying and Bug types are weak against Rock, and Electric types do almost no damage. (except for Geodude, of course ^_^)

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    Oh yeah, wasn't this was the one where Pikachu made toast out of Geodude? XD

    And Onix lost because the sprinklers were turned on. Plus we got to know about Brock's family.

    Heh, Flint did help Ash a lot by powering up Pikachu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pokemonisgr8
    Lets face it, Ash didn't have a chance of winning this battle. Pikachu, Pidgeotto and Butterfree...none of them were good for this battle.
    Butterfree could have helped. My Yellow version Butterfree took out Brock's Geodude in one hit with a Confusion attack, and probably would have made short work of Onix (if I hadn't swapped to Mankey and Low Kicked Onix to death). But then, had the writers gone with that, it would have made it too easy for Ash.

    While reading the episode comparisons on Dogasu's website, I found a rather interesting tidbit about this episode - turns out there's an homage to "Fushigi Yuugi" towards the end, in that scene where all Brock's siblings are hanging off of Ash trying to stop him from instructing Pikachu to knock out Onix. A rather clever in-joke, I thought.


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    This was a decent episode. Learning Brock's history was cool. And, Pikachu's powerup was great. I loved it. Also, the sprinklers thing was good, as it gave an excuse for Onix to be hit by an Electric attack.

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    Not the best Gym Epsiode ever, especially since it was a badge that wasn't given in the traditional way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesse GS the II
    Butterfree could have helped. My Yellow version Butterfree took out Brock's Geodude in one hit with a Confusion attack, and probably would have made short work of Onix (if I hadn't swapped to Mankey and Low Kicked Onix to death). But then, had the writers gone with that, it would have made it too easy for Ash.

    While reading the episode comparisons on Dogasu's website, I found a rather interesting tidbit about this episode - turns out there's an homage to "Fushigi Yuugi" towards the end, in that scene where all Brock's siblings are hanging off of Ash trying to stop him from instructing Pikachu to knock out Onix. A rather clever in-joke, I thought.
    Butterfree could've also used Sleep Powder, but technically if your referring to the games, Butterfree doesn't learn it instantaneously as soon as it involves from Metapod unlike with confusion, but I don't recall him ever using it(confusion that is) - hmm shame, it's one of Butterfree's better attacks.

    And no I don't ge the in-joke - who' or what's Fushigi Yuugi here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharpshooter007
    And no I don't ge the in-joke - who' or what's Fushigi Yuugi here?
    The explination can be found here.


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    The twins only eat cold spaghetti for breakfast, if I'm correct.

    Ah, I dunno what to say. Oh yeah, I don't like how they say that Electric doesn't affect Rock types. Man, Electric doesn't affect Ground type.

    Is this the first episode where they mention that water conducts electricity? They really don't have to repeat it so often.

    Brock's family is cool.

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    Ah, I love this episode and all of Brock's little brothers and sisters.

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    Ahh... Brock and the 1st gym. Good times. Good times.
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    I think this episode was a very good one.Even though I didn't like the way it turned out.I was surprised Brock joined Ash.At the beggining I thought he was going to travel alone like in the games.

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    Ah...Brock is my favorite character (next to Ash), and this was a nice way to introduce him.

    Too bad he didn't start going goo-goo eyes for girls until a few episodes later...

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    wow the first episode we meat good old Brock.

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    Hey, he did get quite a bit of character development with his family in this episode. It's too bad we don't hear about them again for a good long time.
    Anyway, a great introductory episode to one of my favorite characters.

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    There's a minor blooper in this episode: Flint said Brock has 10 brothers and sisters, right? Wrong. I was looking at a film comic of this episode, and I counted the siblings who were all together in the kitchen. Brock has 9 little brothers and sisters! How'd they come up with 10?! If you have a tape/DVD of the episode, press the pause button when all the kids are in view and count them, or check out the film comic.

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    This episode was good but not the best IMO. I really liked how Pikachu trained himself in that generator thingy.

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    About this episode, I have to say I like the special training of Pikachu very original, but - an electric PKMN defeating two rock/ground types it's really stupied. The Pewter Gym it's awsome with all of rocks...

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    Yay, the introduction of Brock! It's funny how he was so cool and detached during his gym scenes, but so warm and friendly outside of the gym, to his family and to Ash. This episode is so interesting to watch years later, especially if you compare this gym battle against Ash and Roxanne's in season six. Wow, Pikachu has really grown a lot over the years.

    And, we have Team Rocket's very first pit trap! It's funny that they do them almost constantly now with few problems, but in the early days they kept falling in. LOL
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    Yes, this is the first episode they meet Takeshi, but the dub screws on his family and makes it seem that Takeshi's mother died. I thought that they're trying to cover death on the shows that they're dubbing, not create them, it's kind of funny, actually. This is the reason why the dubbed Hoso, where Takeshi meets up with his family, he has a certain hate for his "new" mother for no reason (except for changing the Gym). I like how the writers put in that little Fushigi Yuugi reference, very creative, great job writers.

    One of the great points of this episode was Takeshi's first appearence. He was so serious and badass when we first saw him (but as the episodes started to progress, his hormones started to show :/). We also saw the motherly side of him and his love for his siblings.

    It seems 4kids screwed up the price of one little meal in the Pokemon world. I noticed in the dub, the scene were Satoshi was eating at a resturant (for the people that think that was the Pokemon Center, it couldn't have been, since everything's free there) on the bill, they changed that Yen sign into a U.S. dollar sign, but they slipped up, thanks to that, it looked like more than it's actually worth (the dub made it look like it was over one thousand dollars, I believe), I know that Ash is a bigger pig than Satoshi, but that's a little to much. They could've added a decimal sign so it's actually reasonable, but no. Great job 4kids, you've shown us how much resturants are cheapasses in the Pokemon world.

    Well, as for the episode itself, it's actually one of my favorite episodes. This episode is one of the first episodes that show you don't only need to have strong Pokemon to be a good trainer, but you also need to care for other pokemon as well.

    I give the dub 7/10 thanks to those paint edits and/or storyline edits. Aside that, it was perfect.

    And I give the original and/or full episode a 8/10. Ya for Takeshi's first appearence.
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    Oh my goodness how long it's been since I've seen these episodes. I'm reliving some old memories myself lol! I still remember this episode as well as the first time I saw it. Very good! and welcome to the team Brock!!!

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    i like this one too. it realy shows how two similar pokemon can be trained in different ways.....but dont you think richu has a scary voice.....it sounds like its smoked to much...

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