Showdown in Pewter City (005)

[BurningSociety12345543210]

What a crazy reason to win a gym badge. Even so, I liked the epsiode. Too bad Ash didn't have his Bulbasaur yet.

[7threst]

While Ash didn't won this gym badge on a official way, he did show sportsmanship and respect for his opponent. A lot of people give him cuss for that he won most, if not all of his Kanto badges unfairly. I think if you look it from a larger perspective, you would understand that during Kanto, Ash mainly developed the beginning aspects of a trainer and the correct mentality for it, afterwards came battle tactics and experience. With that in mind, I quite enjoyed this episode and it's overall plot with some character development here and there.

[WhyHelloThere]

It was very weird to see Geodude lose against Pikachu's Thunderbolt. Do the writers even play the games? xD Too bad these mistakes are still happening.

[Angel~]

A good episode, nice to see Brock's debut. I liked how Misty offered to help Ash but he refused it... so ignorant of him. Interesting to learn about Brock's family. Nice first gym battle for Ash even if he won with a little bit of luck. Ash & Misty now gained a new friend on their journey.

[WhyHelloThere]

A good episode, nice to see Brock's debut. I liked how Misty offered to help Ash but he refused it... so ignorant of him. Interesting to learn about Brock's family. Nice first gym battle for Ash even if he won with a little bit of luck. Ash & Misty now gained a new friend on their journey.

I wouldn't call it ignorant, I certainly wouldn't want to sweep a gym using someone else's Starmie, especially if I was 10 and it was my first gym battle.

[Locormus]

While Ash didn't won this gym badge on a official way, he did show sportsmanship and respect for his opponent. A lot of people give him cuss for that he won most, if not all of his Kanto badges unfairly. I think if you look it from a larger perspective, you would understand that during Kanto, Ash mainly developed the beginning aspects of a trainer and the correct mentality for it, afterwards came battle tactics and experience. With that in mind, I quite enjoyed this episode and it's overall plot with some character development here and there.

You can't look at it from a larger perspective when you know all about the production of the Kanto-series. The series was only going to last a year and a half. So Pallet Party Panic was going to be the last episode. That being said, all the battle tactics and experience that he would gain throughout Johto and Hoenn wasn't imagined yet during the original OS-production phase. It was just a style of writing they thought would grab the attention of their target audience, with no further development, or larger perspective in mind at all.

You can't absolve the way Ash obtained his badges in Kanto, by saying that the writers would focus on tactics and experience in later series, and that these badges were only the mere starting ground for collecting them, as those later regions weren't planned for animé-production even in the least. You could perhaps say in retrospect (and even then it wouldn't have been in the writers intent to do so during the Kanto production), but not in the larger perspective looking from this episode onwards as that wouldn't make sense.

Hope you understand, while I do agree that after they acknowledged the fact that the series was going to run longer then Kanto, that they had to delve more into development of tactics and experience, hence why Ash seemed more like a tutor to May and Dawn at times.

And eitherway, this episode had great development for Brock and showed his conflict rather well, and even gave basis for an psychoanalytical analysis of the character and why his quirks of being attracted to Joy and Jenny weren't at all random: Loss of a female role-model and nobody who initially cared for him, and gave structure to his life, when he had to give exactly those two things for his siblings.. Joy and Jenny represent care and order, something Brock in a freudian sense still needs and craves for as he didn't receive any when he was a smaller child, while having the responsibility for those two needs for his siblings.

So in a sense, when you see Brock coming onto nurse Joy, you might as well think: "Poor thing, never had a mother who cared for him when he was a child!" It's pure freudian cravings being represented when he's coming on to Jenny and Joy, that's him trying to fill in those gaps. Brock's character is actually pretty deep when you think about it that way. It's why I quite like the character even if he supposedly 'got stale'.

It was very weird to see Geodude lose against Pikachu's Thunderbolt. Do the writers even play the games? xD Too bad these mistakes are still happening.

Still happening? xD When was the last time Electricity did damage to a Ground-type? Eitherway, for Kanto, it was understandable.. The rock-type isn't immune to Electricity, because Ground is. Brock was a Rock-type trainer. So the animé staff, which were only on board for a small year and a half series made a beginners mistake, and forgot to double check, forgetting that both Geodude and Onix are also part Ground..

[CyberCubed]

You watch this episode and you realize 600 episodes later that Brock's development was basically to abandon his role as Gym leader, then abandon his dream of a breeder, then become a doctor.

So Brock's purpose in life was to abandon two careers. Wonderful.

[pokemonsquared]

You watch this episode and you realize 600 episodes later that Brock's development was basically to abandon his role as Gym leader, then abandon his dream of a breeder, then become a doctor.

So Brock's purpose in life was to abandon two careers. Wonderful.

Well at least he didn't age while traveling with Ash so it wasn't a complete loss. Chicks probably dig people with a psychic connection to Uxie and someone that has seen most legendaries in existence.

[WhyHelloThere]

Still happening? xD

Roark's Onix was hurt by Pikachu's Thunderbolt, and Shadow Ball caused damage to Tranquill. Ash tried to use SonicBoom on a Gengar and it dodged using Levitate. Serperior using Leer and then Solarbeam.

You watch this episode and you realize 600 episodes later that Brock's development was basically to abandon his role as Gym leader, then abandon his dream of a breeder, then become a doctor.

So Brock's purpose in life was to abandon two careers. Wonderful.

Breeding is a career?

[BurningSociety12345543210]

oh for crying out LOUD 4Kids SHE ISN'T DEAD STICK TO THE DAMN SCRIPT

This was another bad episode, sadly. The plot was alright but handled terribly. So, Ash doesn't want to cheat by using Misty's pokemon, good. But then he cheats by generating electricity into Pikachu. Huh?

The battle was also unrealistic, the only belivable part was Pidgeotto VS Geodude. The sprinklers hitting Onix should NOT make Pikachu's attacks suddenly work. Not only that, they worked against Geodude for no reason whatsoever. But at least this introduced Brock to the show. And TR got to be somewhat entertaining.

5/10

[Demon Kitsune Yoko Kurama]

It was okay, but not something for me to go crazy over.

I wonder how Pikachu felt while being wrapped twice.     Spoiler:- Spoiler:

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Seemed as if he felt worse being wrapped by Jalorda
 

It was pretty funny when he didn't want to battle, so he tried to call out Pidgeotto. I'm surprised he knew which Poke ball it was. It's also good he learned Thunderbolt as well. And seeing Ash command a Staryu/Starmie would have been wonderful. :3

Ash: Starmie/Staryu, use Water Gun!!

It has a nice ring to it.

[AhTreyYou]

Too bad Ash didn't have Bulbasaur yet I really disliked the method behind Ash getting this badge

[Dragontail]

What a cute way to get a Badge.

Also, this episode caused an inconsistency, because it says that Brock's mother died, but she is alive in future episodes.

0.o

[pacman000]

oh for crying out LOUD 4Kids SHE ISN'T DEAD STICK TO THE DAMN SCRIPT

This was another bad episode, sadly. The plot was alright but handled terribly. So, Ash doesn't want to cheat by using Misty's pokemon, good. But then he cheats by generating electricity into Pikachu. Huh?

The battle was also unrealistic, the only belivable part was Pidgeotto VS Geodude. The sprinklers hitting Onix should NOT make Pikachu's attacks suddenly work. Not only that, they worked against Geodude for no reason whatsoever. But at least this introduced Brock to the show. And TR got to be somewhat entertaining.

5/10

Actually, I find this episode's battles fairly realistic. The amount of heat generated by a bolt of lightening should have some effect on the ground, even if the games don't work that way.

[duh]

Okay episode, nice to see brock's debut.

Also, this episode caused an inconsistency, because it says that Brock's mother died, but she is alive in future episodes.

0.o

That was just in the dub, the original just said she left.

[Mystical Jackal]

What makes this episode becoming so great is the second battle of Pikachu against Onix. It was most taking advantage of the enviroment factors than personal power itself. Despite it wasn't clearly said, according to this episode ground types are immune to electricity just up to a certain voltage. Pikachu could damage Onix because the water lowered its electric resistance, so it was no longer immune to it. Plus, this episode should suggest in future generations that as long as it rains on field ground Pokemons can be hit by electric type moves.

Another interesting thing about this episode is that it shows a bit of Brock's life out of the gym (unike in later generations, that in most of the gyms you enter you just defeat the leader and goes out afterwards).