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    I think I would have preferred this episode if Ash learned to stop being conceited and stubborn and accepted Misty's help. Would have at least been better than the sprinkler nonsense.


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    4Kids messing up by saying Brock's mum was dead was a bad error on their part but I liked that Brock was serious here, not goofy like he gets later on.

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    I never understood this episode. Onix getting defeated with an Electric attack is illogical even when it got sprinkle with water. Ground is immune to Electric.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JudySpell View Post
    4Kids messing up by saying Brock's mum was dead was a bad error on their part but I liked that Brock was serious here, not goofy like he gets later on.
    In their defense they had no idea his mom would be relevant in the future, but yea they should've translated the episode accurately. ^^;

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander18 View Post
    I never understood this episode. Onix getting defeated with an Electric attack is illogical even when it got sprinkle with water. Ground is immune to Electric.
    But at that time, Onix was being sprinkled by the sprinklers in the Gym and Pikachu electrified it. In fact it wasn't defeated by Pikachu's Electric attacks; it was defeated by the burst sprinklers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs. Oreo View Post
    In their defense they had no idea his mom would be relevant in the future, but yea they should've translated the episode accurately. ^^;
    Guess that is true but meh. 4Kids still lost some respect from me by making up her death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JudySpell View Post
    Guess that is true but meh. 4Kids still lost some respect from me by making up her death.
    Yes they definitely shouldn't have done that and instead just copied the dialogue that was said in the Japanese version, but hey the rest of the episode seemed pretty much the same as the original at least. ^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs. Oreo View Post
    Yes they definitely shouldn't have done that and instead just copied the dialogue that was said in the Japanese version, but hey the rest of the episode seemed pretty much the same as the original at least. ^^
    Yeah, and they really had no reason for making it up in the first place. It's not like it was even important to the plot at all. They should've just said that she was gone or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flo View Post
    Yeah, and they really had no reason for making it up in the first place. It's not like it was even important to the plot at all. They should've just said that she was gone or something.
    Yeah it was a translation error. In English, 'gone' can sometimes be used as a kinder word for 'dead', but then 'gone' would mean that Brock's mother would be relevant to the plot. Or otherwise Brock just thought his mother was dead but realised she was alive later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JudySpell View Post
    Guess that is true but meh. 4Kids still lost some respect from me by making up her death.
    4Kids didn't know she was gonna come back and besides worse things have happened...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flo View Post
    Yeah, and they really had no reason for making it up in the first place. It's not like it was even important to the plot at all. They should've just said that she was gone or something.
    It's funny how they complicated things for themselves by making up false info. ^^; Any ways I'm just glad that Flint went back to his family and set Brock free from his responsibilities.

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    My favorite part from here: Misty offering to lend Ash her Pokemon, but I'm glad he didn't accept her help and fought using his own team.

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    The Pewter Gym re-match felt very cheap all because Ash's Pikachu only won when he shocked the fire sprinklers, which the Gym didn't even need since it was made of stone.

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    Pokemon Episode 5 "Showdown At Pewter City"
    * James' random vocal crack
    Wow, all caps title. Must be a REALLY important episode.
    ** "By the way, that'll be a 2 dollar charge for resting on my rocks"
    There's another Nurse Joy! And she looks exactly the same! Kinda creepy, but oh well.
    * Ash stuffing his face was a good chuckle.
    Woah, what? The Bill is 1150 dollars? Cheapstakes.
    Hahaha look how small the Pewter Gym sign is.
    So it's been 2 weeks since he began his journey. Time IS passing!
    Onix doesn't say it's name either. This inconsistency bothers me.
    Aww, Pikachu's so CUTE in this scene!
    ** Good action scene, quite exciting.
    Wow! Brock has tons of siblings, and they look EXACTLY the same!
    WOW! 4Kids ACTUALLY mentioned Brock's mother dying! Surprised they didn't say she was "Sent to another dimension" or whatever. Brock's backstory is really dark for a kids show. Father left them, mother died, now he has to take care of his 10 kids. This show's a lot darker then I thought it would be.
    And now Ash doesn't care about his broken home, and just wants to beat him. What a selfish jerk.
    ** Ash falling down upon learning the river was dry was pretty funny.
    And he's decided to abandon Misty as well. Ash's characterization in this ep is very bad.
    AND he's abusing his Pikachu just so he can beat Brock!
    ** Another strong action scene, Brock puts up a good fight.
    Flint is his dad! And he ALSO looks exactly the same!
    Closing Thoughts:
    A decent, though not spectacular, episode.
    The plot was good. Ash battles Brock in the Pewter City Gym, and wins a gym badge and a new friend. No filler, well-written, and exciting.
    The action was top-notch, great drama between Onix and Pikachu.
    Humor was decent, several laughs.
    However, keeping it from getting a higher grade was Ash's characterization. He abuses his Pikachu just to try to win, and he doesn't care about Brock's tough life because he wants to win. What a jerk!
    Still, 7/10.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonstardust View Post
    but I'm glad he didn't accept her help and fought using his own team.
    If I was Ash I guess I wouldn't have taken her offer either, although looking back I wish Misty had watched his first battle against Brock, but instead she was somewhere else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs. Oreo View Post
    If I was Ash I guess I wouldn't have taken her offer either, although looking back I wish Misty had watched his first battle against Brock, but instead she was somewhere else.
    Hell, if I were Ash, I would have begged for Misty's help immediately: her Staryu and Starmie would have worked wonders against Brock's Geodude and Onix. But Ash had too much pride...
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    Satoshi and Kasumi may have argued the whole way, but at least this was where they finally made it to Nibi City. I chuckled when Kasumi left Satoshi with the bill in the restaurant, and this was one of the few times that we saw Takeshi's Ishitsubute battle. Munoo was such a coward for leaving his kids, though.

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