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    Can not stand Giselle though
    I also never like Giselle
    Giselle was not a very good COD in my opinion
    You people speak blasphemy! Giselle being a stuck-up little ***** is what makes her so loveable.
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    I really liked this episode. Giselle is a wonderful CoD and I really thought that that wimpy kid, I have to look at other pages to figure out his name: Joe, was a boring character. He was a kid that was getting bullied and even then was still arrogant enough to brag about his supposed skill. I think it was one of the more memorable episodes simply because Ash and Brock both drooled over Giselle.

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    Ash's burn to Misty was good too

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    I'd love to have someone like Brock feeding me every day. =D
    Those school guys were so mean bullying that little kid. D= But the school seems helpful with allowing you to go straight to the championships after graduating. And lol I love Misty in this episode. =D
    Team Rocket again make the episode more fun by being the failures of the school. And is that Meowth in Lookers uniform? o:
    Giselle was seriously annoying. D= And I'm sort of annoyed how this episode didn't really change her way of thinking. She may have became friends with the kid, but she was still just as annoying. Nice episode though. ^^

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    So some people spend ages on a journey gaining 8 badges and then there's some school kids who can go straight to the championships after learning a little about Pokémon. Seems a little unfair to me.
    Giselle was a *****, no question about it!

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    5/10. I never really liked this episode. Giselle was annoying.

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    Didn't like this one very much because it takes all of the worst things about real life private schools and uses them as the basis of this episode's plot. Ash, Misty and Brock "rescue" some Character if the Day called Joe from "bullies" only to find out that they were his "friends" and that they all attended Pokemon Tech, an expensive school populated by rich kids that trains its students without sending them to collect badges, and guarantees entry into the Pokémon League upon graduation. Joe said his "friends" were just "tutoring" him, prompting Ash to want to meet the Head student to get it to stop. Joe shows a picture of said Head student , Character of the Day Giselle, who becomes the first(and so far only) girl in the series to make Ash compliment her looks. Joe battles Misty's Starmie with his Weepinbell after he comments that he always beat her Gym's Water Pokemon on a simulator(R/B), Misty wins, Giselle calls Joe an embarrassment to Pokemon Tech, then she beats the holy hell out of Starmie with her Graveler.Giselle starts mocking Ash after he says levels aren't important. He said he has two badges, and Giselle said that he's still a beginner. When he revealed that he's been on his quest for 2 months, she snarks that Pikachu was traning him because it was always out of it's ball. Ash challenges Giselle with Pikachu while she uses Cubone and wins. Team Rocket starts their motto, the Tech student recognize them as flunkies, then defeat them, showing just how far Jesse, James and Meowth had fallen since EP002. Joe, probably because he finally realized being at Pokemon Tech would eventually make him an ******* like everyone else, decides to go home and start over, but keeps Giselle's photo because "they are friends now". This is the last episode of the anime that tries to follow the game so directly.

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    What an odd school and Giselle's attitude was right down annoying...

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    OK, Giselle was really arrogant and mean, but that made her funny.

    Bad that levels got mentioned here... That shouldn't be in the anime.

    Bad idea, graduating at a school and being able to go to the Pokemon League. If you can go to the Pokemon League that way, your Pokemon probably aren't as strong as those from people who collected badges.

    Good to see that Misty proved that types don't decide everything.

    This episode was too game-like for a Kanto episode, but still enjoyable, 9/10.

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    The proverebial "School of Hard Knocks" is a metaphor for how difficult life will be if your the kind of person who never listens to good advice and learns everything the hard way!

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    Lol I loved how Giselle turned from total arrogant female dog to friendliest girl in the world all within 15 minutes.

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    She can violate my rights every-
    Instantaneous win!

    Well, I guess this episode was in some regards solid, but I did inexplicably enjoyed the previous filler episode more than this one.

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    A nice episode, Giselle was very pretty but also vain, which made her unlikable. Glad to see Ash put her in her place. It was hot when Ash liked her because it showed he wasn't totally oblivious to girls even though it's the last time he's done something like this. Brock falling for her was hilarious because she's younger than him. I loved how Misty was jealous and wanted to confront Giselle.

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    well, giselle was good character and an arrogant one..
    misty was great there and she taught her about friendship " a true
    friend wouldn't walk away from a
    friend in need of help,"and that
    Giselle's beauty is only skin deep.

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    I enjoyed watching this(finally I can say that). The kid was boring but the other CotD was an interesting character at least.

    Don't know how someone can enter the pokemon league by graduating some school that teaches about type advantages. That makes no sense at all.

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    I liked this episode. It's good Starmie got its first win in the series. But, I didn't like when its gem got scattered by Graverler. Giselle was conceded to me it wasn't even funny. She reminds me of some of the girls today. It was funny when Pikachu was playing on the treadmill. xD He kicked it when he fell of.

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    correct me if I'm wrong but this is the first and last time where Ash shows interest in a girl?
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    Cracking episode, shame we never saw any of Giselle afterwards. Would've been nice to see/ hear how Joe got on as well. Maybe even by him appearing at the Pokemon League.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AhTreyYou View Post
    correct me if I'm wrong but this is the first and last time where Ash shows interest in a girl?
    Yes, yes this is. Well, not if you count shipping as some.

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    This episode is notable for mentioning Pokemon levels. it's the only time when levels were mentioned in Pokemon anime. Gislle was a interesting COTD, I liked how she was both beautiful and arrogant. She thought that she knows everything about Pokemon. When Misty ended up losing to her in a battle, Gislle insulted her and Then she insulted Ash and Pikachu. But it was great that Ash challenged her in a battle and won, which made Gislle realise her mistakes and she became friendly. She is the only girl who caught Ash's interest for a while, I hope she will make an appearance in the anime again.
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    Ha, fourth wall jokes in the beginning. At least this one isn't groan-inducing, but as I've mentioned previously, 4KIDS seems to have a knack for writing jokes, though it varies greatly from dub to dub. Pokémon seems to have most of the good jokes, which shows it was cared for even while it suffered from edits that in most cases aren't necessary. (I say “most”. We'll get there when we get there, today's not it.)

    This personally is a hard episode to look back on, not because it's forgettable (it's anything but, even though it feels like everything's just halted in place here), but because there's just too many “technical” things going on. It could be because I never truly understood all of it as a kid (I didn't get Pokémon Yellow until I was eight—this aired when I was six), and yet to this day, it still makes me tilt my head. This is where we get mentions of “leveling up”, an obvious reference to the games to try and connect the two universes together, or at least in a marketable way. This has become a bit infamous over time when it comes to Pikachu: here it's mentioned he may be at about level 25, and it's episode nine. If they kept the concept of levels throughout the entire Pokémon series, Pikachu really and truly should be at level 100 today, but he keeps “resetting” at the start of every new region. However, if my memory is correct, we stop hearing about Pokémon “leveling up” by the time we reach the Orange Islands, or even sooner probably because of the problems the writing faced—probably. So levels are never mentioned again, and yet fans are quick to bring it up time and time again.

    That is how memorable the episode is, even if it's one of the harder ones to explain.

    For the characters, Brock is noticeably more energetic than he was in the past few episodes. We see here that he apparently has almost an entire kitchen in his knapsack—how he carries it around without slouching is beyond me, but anime logic, let's go with that. And yet despite this, the characters starve as much as we've seen them eat Brock's cooking. Around the time of Johto, we stop getting mentions of starvation except amongst Team Rocket. Who speaking of which we learn were tech students themselves at the same school, but got the lowest scores in the school's history. This would come to play later in the season with the well-known (filler?) episode “The Ultimate Test”. In here, they just seem to goof around and not scheme a plan—and Meowth was up in the air for about seven minutes, give or take. So they're the butt monkeys again for this episode, and are chased away by being pelted with PokéBalls by the students. Okay, then... though call me crazy, I thought the animation during their motto with the hair blowing through their hair was pretty.

    Oh, forget Brock's “She can violate my rights” comment, we have this: “We frolicked that night for our future seemed bright.” OH DEAR GOD THE DOUBLE ENTENDRE.

    As for the school itself, it's a bit of a shame they didn't focus on technical schools much (though there probably was a reason for it), but it explains why there are few trainers one can run into, and yet we see a large amount of trainers that gather at the Pokémon League every year. It's safe to say that it may be split down the line as to who were students and who actually traveled from city to city, but it feels a bit... off that we don't get to see a lot of trainers who are aiming for gym badges throughout the show. You would think we'd see more and more trainers with similar goals as Ash, but oh well.

    (Speaking of, this sentence by Ash: “I don't know about this school of yours, but if it's turning out students like you, I'd have to say the standards are pretty low!”

    Ha, you better have Burn Heal! Though odd how Ash seemed to care about the system even though he probably didn't go to a school like that.)

    Joe's not very memorable, honestly. I guess it doesn't help I keep forgetting his name, and that he's just such a bland character-of-the-day. Giselle really is the only one everyone remembers. But you know, she is pretty much a bitch when it comes to her mannerisms, even if she knows what she's doing (even going so far as to foreshadow Lt. Surge and Pikachu's strength). I think that's why she's so memorable, her conceited nature is hard to forget, and it does make her a more interesting character when compared to Joe. She appears to have a change of heart at the end, but that to me feels like it came out of nowhere. She was mean towards Joe the entire time, and yet they're now on good terms? Um... okay...

    Oh, and Ash crushes on her while Misty gives jealous looks (which is another episode that Pokéshippers tend to point out, even though Misty was more-or-less trying to protect her reputation). Apparently this is the only time Ash is shown to crush on anyone, which is strange. You'd think he'd crush on more pretty girls in the future, but he doesn't.

    Of note is this is the one episode where Rachel Lillis voiced Pikachu. I forget why they did this, whether the audio for Ikue Ohtani was messed up, or they wanted to try it once and see how it comes out. Obviously, it was very easy to notice, and it wasn't that good. (Sorry, Rachel Lillis. I do like your Jigglypuff voice, though.) This is also where we get an estimated period of time from the first episode to now: Ash has been on his journey for about two months. Has it really? It honestly does not feel that way, but they have been in Viridian Forest for about... I'd say no more than a week, and they did stay a night in Pewter City, so... it's mostly just guesses for how long he has been on the road, but it gives the illusion of time passing, a detail that is sadly overlooked as time goes on (but not forgotten amongst the fans, again).

    And on the wings of another promise that's hasn't been held up, we head on to the next episode, never to see Joe and Giselle ever again. Seriously, I wonder why the writers backed off from holding up to these promises if they thought Pokémon would only last 82 episodes.
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    Misty mentioning she likes French food
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    "She can violate my rights anyd-"
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    I really liked Giselle's personality; she was so sassy and shady and I was sad that she lost to Ash. Alas. Anyway, I appreciated the idea of a school for trainers where they could bypass collecting badges and enter the Pokemon League based on educational credentials. Also, I was surprised that Ash thought Giselle was attractive.

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    So I grew up watching Pokemon and playing with video games and recently had a nostalgia hit where I wanted to watch all the original episodes in order, why not. Anyways, while doing this I'm smoking and getting high, which makes this all the better and helps me notice some things that I have missed as a child. It's been YEARS since I've watched the show. (Sorry for throwing different episodes in here, I just really wanted to talk about this in one giant blurb) So the first episode I want to point at is Episode 7: The Water Flowers of Cerulean City. When Ash and Brock are about to split up (before Ash finds the gym) Brock says "well, I have some stuff I need to check out," to which Ash questions "what stuff?" and Brock ends with "just stuff, see you later" and to my ears he almost sounds secretive....what does he have going on? It appears to be soooo secretive that he can't even give Ash a one-two word summary of where he is going. Maybe like "The library", or "Poke Center", you know whatever. Why be so secretive? And then to top it off at the end of the episode I nearly lost it when Brock is approaching the gym and calls out to Ash who then calls with a nickname? "Yo Brocko." Seriously? What the heck is that? When was a nickname ever established and why is there no question to where Brock was. Not even a "so did you check out your stuff?" Nope, just "hey look at my new badge, OMG lets go ADVENTURE!"

    The next two episodes that I am going to bring up involve the narrator guy who does the recap in the beginning and a small blurb at the end. Well, the two episodes are the next two (8 and 9) and they involve, in my opinion, odd endings from the narrator. Beginning with Episode 8:The Path to the Pokémon League. This is where Ash finds that gym where that guy trains wild pokemon and such. I don't know, it honestly didn't appeal to me at all really. It should be noted that when saying gym, I mean that this is just a training facility and it not part of the league. Anywho, so the name of the gym is A.J.'s Gym, simple name right? This is important when explaining why I find this ending from narrator weird. So AJ walks one way and Ash and friends walk the opposite way and there's a freeze frame where the narrator does his thing. He says: "........but one thing's for sure, he'll never forget the name of the place with the great gym again." WHAT. THE. FUUUUUUUUUU... Seriously, why does that need to be so wordy?! The name is AJ's Gym. Also, why say "again"? Had Ash forgotten he name before even though he was there the whole time once he discovered its existence? I played it over a few times because I was sure I was just really high and had not heard that right, but apparently I had.

    Finally, the last episode I want to draw attention to is the one that actually deals with this thread. So Episode 9: The School of Hard Knocks everyone knows about here since that's what is on topic. The point I'm drawing attention to again deals with what is said by the narrator at the ending of the episode. The camera pans away to show the school since that is what the group is taking a last look at and he says "so as Ash and his friends journey on, they take one last look at the school where they learned so much." This one really had me laughing. In my opinion, the narrator sounds like he didn't have anything to say and just spit out something. Like they forgot to finish the sentence before recording and the narrator just went with it and added his own ending and everyone was all "yeah, that will work, whatever wasn't a great episode anyways..." Does anyone not agree with that. The ending narration was just some words thrown together because they needed to have that voice at the end, but the episode was awful and there wasn't anything great to reflect on. HAHA.

    I've only just started and if this is what I've found so far I'm looking forward to other weird things I will find. Do you agree or disagree with my opinions? Please let me know, having noticed these things I've really been wanting to discuss this with other people who have my mindset and see that these are oddities that make this show quite hilarious in a way that is different to when I watched them when they first came out.

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