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    Quote Originally Posted by Missingno. Master View Post
    Not really. Seen the latest episode?

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    Ash:
    Pikachu: Feint, Brick Break, Grass Knot, Present, Bide, Protect, DoubleSlap
    Grotle/Torterra: Wood Hammer, Rock Polish, Mega Drain, SolarBeam
    Monferno/Infernape: Close Combat, Feint, Brick Break, Iron Tail, Flare Blitz, Blast Burn
    Buizel/Floatzel: Aqua Tail, Waterfall, Focus Punch, Bulk Up, Crunch
    Staraptor: U-Turn, Heat Wave, Ominous Wind, Endeavor
    Gible: Dragon Claw, Sandstorm

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    No they only use Charge Beam, Encore, Spark and Helping Hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tails_Sliat View Post
    No they only use Charge Beam, Encore, Spark and Helping Hand.
    So what. Just because they may use only four moves in battle doesn't mean they are unable to use more. The brain doesn't automatically forget skills, thats not how it works. Read my previous post on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tails_Sliat View Post
    No they only use Charge Beam, Encore, Spark and Helping Hand.
    They used Charge and Discharge as well.

    Infernape:
    Flare blitz - Learned immediately. No training to perfect it. Replaces Flame Wheel (just because they're so similar).

    Blast Burn - I can see there being an episode dedicated to the move tutor just like there was for Gible. It'll take Infernape some time to master it.


    The writers will probably go on a new move spree with Infernape just like they did with Combusken.



    Torterra:
    Earthquake - Learned upon evolving (just like in the games.) Monferno learns Mach Punch upon evolving in the games and did so in the anime too. Same goes for Staraptor and Close Combat.

    Wood Hammer - A powerhouse grass type move to set it apart from Paul's Torterra.


    Cyndaquil:
    Lava Plume - Sense Dawn's Cyndaquil currently only has 3 moves and it's strongest fire attack is Flame Wheel, I can see it getting Lava Plume.

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    pikachu should learn grass knot and thunder vawe

    staraptor should learn air cutter or ominus wind

    grotle should learn wood hammer and earthqake when it evoloves

    infernape should learn blast burn or thunderpunch

    buizel should learn brick break or dig

    gible should learn dragonrage.

    i might post dawns and brocks teams later.

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    Pikachu ~ Feint
    Staraptor ~ Roost
    Torterra ~ Earth Power
    Infernape ~ Blast Burn
    Buizel ~ Rain Dance
    Gible ~ Stone Edge

    Pikachu: I've lost count of how many times he comes up against a Pokemon who can use Protect.
    Staraptor: Recovery move. Makes Staraptor very difficult to defeat.
    Torterra: Makes use of it's Ground typing. Different from Paul's Torterra.
    Infernape: Three elemental Hyper Beam's 'rivalry'.
    Buizel: So he can activate Swift Swim.
    Gible: Type coverage. Strong attack.

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    brocks pokemon
    happiny should learn copycat,sweet kiss,refresh and drain punch
    sudowoodo should learn stone edge and sucker punch
    croagunk should learn sludge bomb,pursiut and vaccum wave

    dawns pokemon
    piplup shouldnt learn any new move
    buneary should learn jump kick,shadow ball and return
    pachirisu should learn iron tail
    momoswine should learn double hit
    cyndaquil should learn eruption,rollout and ember
    togekiss should know sky attack,extremspeed,aura spere and double team

    jessies pokemon
    seviper should learn flamethrower and night slash
    yanmega shouldnt learn anything
    wobbufett should learn destiny bond

    james pokemon
    carnivine should learn wring out,power vhip and hyper beam
    mime jr should learn psibeam,psichik and barrier.

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    Ash:
    Pikachu-Feint,Double team, Protect, Thunder Fang(Personality doesn't match but still)

    Staraptor-Steel wing,Roost,U-turn

    Torrtera-Earthquake, Wood hammer, Solar beam, Leach seed, Crunch,Frenzy Plant

    Infernape-Flare Blitz,Blast burn,Close Combat, Brick break

    Buizel-Rain dance, Pursuit, Protect, Hidden power, Brine

    Gible- Dragon Claw,Fire Fang, Shadow Claw,Roar, Substitute

    Gives everyone at least one defensive move as well as other advantages such as being able to hit protect U-turning/Roar activating swift swim and elemental hyper-beams.

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    Pikachu - Can't see it learning anything new right now... Although it'll probably be using Thunder again soon.

    Staraptor - Was hoping for Twister, but with Gible on the team, it doesn't seem necessary... How about Ominous Wind or Endeavor?

    Torterra - At this point, Wood Hammer seems likely. I say this not only because Ash favours recoil moves this saga, but also because it works well with Synthesis. Stealth Rock is also a good choice and would deal with Paul's switching habits.

    Infernape - Blast Burn is bound to happen, if only to complete the rival triangle. However Flare Blitz is also a good option and if they didn't want to go with another Fire move, then how about Return or Shadow Claw?

    Buizel - The only things i could see it learning are Razor Wind or Rain Dance... but since it's only just learned Ice Punch, i don't think there will be anymore.

    Gible - Another tricky one...It's already got a rather good moveset with Draco Meteor, Dragon Pulse and Rock Smash. But how about something like Mud Shot or Iron Head to replace Dig, since Infernape already knows that.

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    Ash:
    Pikachu - Brick Break
    Torterra - Frenzy Plant
    Infernape - Flare Blitz
    Buizel - Ice Fang
    Staraptor - Nothing
    Gible - For now, nothing
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    I actually just posted this in the Sunyshore Speculation thread...

    Quote Originally Posted by Grei View Post
    Paul's Torterra never really moves in battle. It just stays in one place and launches attacks from where it stands.

    Ash's Grotle doesn't really do that. With a main attacking move like Rock Climb, there seems to be indication that Grotle's strategy won't become anything like Paul's Torterra's strategy--which makes sense, the two need to be differentiated.

    So, I think that Wood Hammer is most likely for Ash's Grotle/Torterra, or Rock Polish in conjunction with Rock Climb. Or both.

    I'd love for it to learn Leaf Storm and/or Seed Bomb, but Leaf Storm is already known by Paul's Torterra (and, as Yusuf said, the writers love Razor Leaf), and Seed Bomb is sort of the physical counterpart to Energy Ball, the latter of which Ash's Grotle already knows. So, I see Wood Hammer being the most likely.

    Earth Power is also likely, but I see that with Paul's Torterra more, frankly.
    So, yeah. That's my reasoning for Ash's Grotle/Torterra learning Wood Hammer.

    Pikachu also needs a new move. I'm really sick of it's current moveset. I see Brick Break being possible, I think that'd be cool. Otherwise, a move like Return would be nice to see, or some 5th-Gen move. I'm just so tired of Iron Tail and Volt Tackle. ;_;

    Infernape will probably learn either Flare Blitz or Blast Burn, though I'd love for it to learn Close Combat. Blast Burn is likely simply because of Barry's Empoleon knowing Hydro Cannon and Paul's Torterra knowing Frenzy Plant.
    Staraptor needs a long-range move like Air Cutter. Otherwise, it's good.
    Buizel just learned Ice Punch, it likely won't be learning anything new. Chances are we'll be seeing more of Ice Aqua Jet soon.
    Gible... I'd love to see Gible with Dragon Rush. Iron Head also sounds good (and fitting).

    Also, as for the "Pokemon only know four moves!" argument--the 4-move limit exists in the games to prevent somebody from loading up their Pokemon with every move it can learn, and restrains the Pokemon from being to powerful. It adds strategy to the game.

    We've seen Pokemon use more than 4 different moves in a battle before. It doesn't make sense for the moves to be forgotten in the anime.
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    Ash:
    Pikachu - Return
    Torterra - Wood Hammer
    Infernape - Blast Burn
    Buizel - rain dance
    Staraptor - twister
    Gible - rock tomb

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    Just one question. What exactly is Return all about? How is that an attack. If Ash wants to return a pokemon, all he has to do is say "Pikachu, return" or in any other pokemon's cases, he just returns them to their pokeball.

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    Return is a attacking move.

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    Yeah, Return is an attack which becomes more powerful if the Pokemon and Trainer have a strong friendship.

    Attacks
    Ash
    Pikachu-Quick Attack, Thunderbolt, Iron Tail, Volt Tackle, Endeavor/Pain Split
    Staraptor-Quick Attack, Wing Attack, Aerial Ace, Brave Bird, Close Combat
    Torterra-Energy Ball, Rock Climb, Leaf Storm/Seed Bomb, Earth Power/Stone Edge
    Infernape-Flame Wheel, Dig, Flamethrower, Mach Punch, Blast Burn
    Buizel-Sonicboom, Water Gun, Aqua Jet, Water Pulse, Ice Punch
    Gible-Dig, Dragon Pulse, Draco Meteor, Rock Smash

    Dawn
    Piplup-Bubblebeam, Peck, Bide, Whirlpool, Hydro Pump
    Buneary-Ice Beam, Dizzy Punch, Bounce, Jump Kick/Sky Uppercut
    Pachirisu-Spark, Sweet Kiss, Discharge, Super Fang
    Mamoswine-Take Down, Ice Shard, Ancientpower, Hidden Power
    Cyndaquil-Flame Wheel, Swift, Smokescreen, Flamethrower/Double Edge
    Togekiss-Sky Attack, Metronome, Aura Sphere, Air Slash

    Brock
    Sudowoodo-Double Edge, Flail, Mimic, Hammer Arm
    Croagunk-Poison Jab, Poison Sting, Brick Break, Sludge Bomb/Gunk Shot
    Happiny-Pound, Secret Power, Drain Punch
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    Light Screen would be a good choice to combat Paul's Torterra. That thing's all about the special attacks... Then of course, by teaching his own Torterra Seed Bomb, Ash could cut through Paul's Light Screen.

    Sounds like a plan.
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    As Ash's Grotle is evolving I want to see it learn Iron Head, Super Power, Outrage or Amnesia. But it most likely learn a move like Wood Hammer and I am fine with it.
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    Pikachu Discharge
    Infernape Brick Break
    Grotle Leaf Storm
    Staraptor Drill Peck
    Buizel Surf
    Gible Dragon Rush

    Bulbasaur Frenzy Plant
    Charizard Blast Burn
    Squirtle Hydro Cannon
    Kingler Brine
    Muk Shadow Ball
    Tauros Hyper Beam
    Snorlax Giga Impact
    Chikorita Ingrain
    Cyndaquil Eruption
    Totodile Ice Fang
    Heracross Cross Chop
    Noctowl Psychic
    Donphan Rock Slide
    Sceptile Giga Drain
    Corphish Mud Shot
    Swellow Air Slash
    Torkoal Stone Edge
    Glalie Avalanche

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spacialrend View Post
    Pikachu Discharge
    Infernape Brick Break
    Grotle Leaf Storm
    Staraptor Drill Peck
    Buizel Surf
    Gible Dragon Rush

    Bulbasaur Frenzy Plant
    Charizard Blast Burn
    Squirtle Hydro Cannon
    Kingler Brine
    Muk Shadow Ball
    Tauros Hyper Beam
    Snorlax Giga Impact
    Bayleef Ingrain
    Cyndaquil Eruption
    Totodile Ice Fang
    Heracross Cross Chop
    Noctowl Psychic
    Donphan Rock Slide
    Sceptile Giga Drain
    Corphish Mud Shot
    Swellow Air Slash
    Torkoal Stone Edge
    Glalie Avalanche
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    Quote Originally Posted by bui View Post
    Return is a attacking move.
    Okay. So it is an attacking move. So how would the pokemon know whether to use the attack move Return or to literally return as in being called back? How would they tell the difference?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CliveKoopa View Post
    Okay. So it is an attacking move. So how would the pokemon know whether to use the attack move Return or to literally return as in being called back? How would they tell the difference?
    Well, Return has never been used in the anime, so we have yet to find out.

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    Pikachu-Endeavor/Pain Split
    Bulbasaur-Seed Bomb, Double Edge
    Charizard-Dragon Claw, Blast Burn
    Squirtle-Gyro Ball, Focus Punch
    Kingler-Metal Claw, Mud Shot
    Muk-Dark Pulse, Gunk Shot
    Tauros-Iron Head, Outrage
    Snorlax-Giga Impact, Focus Blast
    Heracross-Brick Break, Shadow Claw
    Bayleef-Solarbeam, Synthesis
    Cyndaquil-Eruption, Double Edge
    Totodile-Aqua Tail, Superpower
    Noctowl-Sky Attack, Zen Headbutt
    Donphan-Stone Edge, Ice Shard
    Swellow-Steel Wing, Pluck
    Sceptile-X-Scissor, Frenzy Plant
    Corphish-Night Slash, Guillotine
    Torkoal-Rock Tomb, Lava Plume
    Glalie-Shadow Ball, Crunch
    Staraptor-Ominous Wind/Twister
    Torterra-Wood Hammer, Earth Power
    Infernape-Blast Burn
    Buizel-Razor Wind
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    Dawn's:

    Piplup- Shadow Claw
    Buneary- Charm
    Pachirisu- Thunder Wave
    Mammoswine- Giga Impact
    Cyndaquil- Defensive Curl

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    Ash
    Infernape : Flare Blitz or Shadow Claw
    Staraptor : Air Cutter or Sand Attack
    Buizel : Done
    Gible : Iron Head or Twister
    Torterra : Done
    Pikachu : Swift

    Dawn
    Buneary : Shadow Ball or Jump Kick
    Togekiss : Blizzard, AcientPower, Steel Wing
    Cyndaquil : Flare Blitz or Double Kick
    Piplup : Done
    Mamoswine : Stone Edge or Icy Wind
    Pachirisu : Thunder

    Brock
    Happiny : Shock Wave or SolorBeam
    Croagunk : Bullet Punch or Sludge Bomb
    Suddowoodo : Done

    Jessie
    Seviper : Flamethrower or Body Slam
    Yanmega : Bug Bite or Attract
    Wobbufett : Done

    James
    Mime Jr : Focus Punch
    Carnivine : SolorBeam or Synthesis

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    Ash

    Infernape - Flare Blitz
    Torterra - Earth Power/Frenzy Plant/Stone Edge
    Staraptor - Nothing it needs
    Buizel - Bulk Up
    Gible - Flamethrower?
    Pikachu - Reached it's limit

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    Quote Originally Posted by CliveKoopa View Post
    Okay. So it is an attacking move. So how would the pokemon know whether to use the attack move Return or to literally return as in being called back? How would they tell the difference?
    By the context of the trainer's command.

    "Pikachu, return!" = Pikachu, get your *** outta there
    "Pikachu, use Return!" = Pikachu, use the attack known as Return

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    Pikachu: Return
    Staraptor: Roost
    Torterra: Earth Power
    Infernape: Flare Blitz
    Buizel: Razor Wind
    Gible: Brick Break

    Bulbasaur: Sludge Bomb
    Charizard: Blast Burn
    Squirtle: Blizzard
    Primeape: Close Combat
    Kingler: Superpower
    Muk: Giga Drain
    Tauros: Zen Headbutt
    Snorlax: Iron Head
    Heracross: Night Slash
    Bayleef: Reflect
    Quilava: Eruption
    Totodile: Ice Fang
    Noctowl: Air Slash
    Donphan: Earth Power
    Swellow: Steel Wing
    Sceptile: Detect
    Corphish: Swords Dance
    Torkoal: Stealth Rock
    Glalie: Gyro Ball
    Gliscor: Stone Edge

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