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    Quote Originally Posted by Rohanator View Post
    It seems so since nowadays every time a Pokemon learns a new move in the anime, there's always one move that they'll never use again. For example, Pika hasn't used Volt Tackle once since learning Electro Ball, Torterra never used Razor Leaf after learning Leaf Storm and Infernape hasn't used Flame Wheel after Flare Blitz was learned.
    It's obvious why Infernape and Torrterra never used those moves again, Flare Blitz and Leaf Storm were those moves powered up, but Pikachu losing it's signature attack, hmm, well that's just sad...

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    ~ Thunderbolt, Electro Ball, Quick Attack, Iron Tail (He really should have Grass Knot and Brick Break, but oh well)
    ~ Sky Attack, Air Cutter, Taunt, Quick Attack (most of Ash's Pokemon that know Quick Attack tend to keep it)
    ~ Hydro Cannon, Razor Shell, Revenge(Aqua Jet), Megahorn (I don't want Samurott to have 3 water moves)
    ~ Flame Charge, Arm Thrust, Body Slam(I know it's an egg move), Rollout (I don't see it evolving to Emboar till after the league)
    ~ Leaf Storm, Attract, Wring Out, Aerial Ace (Sadly, the Snivy line doesn't have that big of a movepool)
    /~ Leer(cause it's cool), Payback, High Jump Kick, Head Smash(upgraded Headbutt)/ (I'm not sure if Scraggy will evolve or not)
    ~ Leaf Blade, X-Scissor, Energy Ball/Shadow Claw, String Shot
    ~ Hydro Pump, Mud Shot, Supersonic/Hyper Voice, Sludge Wave
    ~ Stone Edge, Sandstorm, SolarBeam, Flash Cannon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joltik-Kid View Post
    It's obvious why Infernape and Torrterra never used those moves again, Flare Blitz and Leaf Storm were those moves powered up, but Pikachu losing it's signature attack, hmm, well that's just sad...
    That's true, although some Pokes like Buizel lost stronger moves, replaced Water Pulse with Ice Punch but kept Water Gun. But yeah, it's a shame to see Volt Tackle go but as far as the anime goes, Thunderbolt is far more of a staple.
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    Pikachu
    Thunderbolt Iron Tail Grass Knot Brick Break/Surf/Rest
    Charizard-Sky Drop and Blast Burn
    Sceptile-X-Scissor and Focus Blast
    Oshawott-Air Slash or something incredibly strong
    Heracross-Close Combat
    Snorlax-Heavy Slammer and Curse/Sleep Talk
    Torterra-Earth Power and Outrage
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    Quote Originally Posted by Venomfang View Post
    Is it confirmed that pokemon can only learn four moves in the anime?
    No. The anime is different from the games. It would be stupid for a pokemon for a pokemon to forget moves in the anime universe. So Brock forgets how to cook once he becomes a doctor? See how stupid that sounds.

    Just because a pokemon doesn't use a certain move anymore doesn't mean they forget it and I don't buy that Sinnoh pokedex crap when it shows pokemon only having four moves. My theory for that is time-saving. Obviously the pokedex can't show the full moveset because of time.

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    New Moves learned
    Pikachu: Signal Beam, re-learns Volt Tackle

    Oshawott: Fury Cutter
    Dewott: Scald, Revenge
    Samurott: Megahorn, Hydro Pump or Aqua Tail

    Tepig: Rollout
    Pignite: Arm Thrust, Heat Crash

    Snivy: Glare
    Servine: Giga Drain, Aerial Ace
    Serperior: Dragon Tail

    Tranquill: Sky Attack,
    Unfezant: U-turn, Roost

    Scraggy: High Jump Kick, Faint Attack
    Scrafty: Zen Headbutt, Dragon Claw

    Swadloon: Protect,
    Leavanny: X-scissor, Shadow Claw

    Roggenrola: nothing
    Boldore: Bulldoze
    Gigalith: Solarbeam,

    Palpitoad: Sludge Bomb, Hyper Voice

    Cubchoo: Ice Punch, Shadow Claw, Substitute, Ice Breath

    Litwick: Flame Burst, Shadow Ball, Will-o-wisp, hex

    Iris:
    Axew: Outrage
    Fraxure: Double Chop
    Haxorus: Reversal, Iron Tail

    Excadrill: Brick Break, Shadow Claw

    Emolga: Acrobatics, Thunder

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    listing moves that I think ash/oak should teach Ash's pokemon

    Pikachu- cant really think of one for him...
    Charizard- blast burn and maybe metal claw would be cool
    bulbasur- seed bomb leaf storm maybe toxic or another poison move...
    Quilava- hiden power focus punch/evolves and learns focus blast
    totodile- aqua jet aqua tail crunch/evovles and learns ice punch
    donphan giga impact magnitude buldoze
    Septile- hiden power
    Glalie- Ice shard cruch blizzard
    Torterra Curse giga/mega drain stone edge wood hammer
    Infernape- thunder punch blaze kick close combat blast burn focus blast brick break dinamic punch
    Buizel-brick break/focus punch ice beam
    Gible- dragon rage evolves crunch earthquake flamethrower
    Tranquil- sky attack
    Mijumaru- evolve fury cutter water pulse evolves again megahorn revenge maybe grass knot
    Pokabu- evolve arm thrust roll out flame thrower evolves again head smash another good fighting move
    Tsutarja- energy ball solar beam and then if it evolves groth and if it goes all the way coil
    Zuruggu- payback brick break chip away evolves crunch dragon tail focus punch head smash
    Swadloon- evolve X-Scissor energy ball bug bite sword dance slash maybe grasknot
    Palpitoad- aqua ring round evolves drain punch toxic
    Roggenrolla- evolves to Gigalith and learns hyper beam solar beam buldoze

    This is all i can really think of right now, would give alot of his pokes good coverage and would make alot of them alot stronger to, in the long run

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    Ill only say that Emboar should learn brick break and Samurott should know X-scissor
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    Tranquil needs Aerial Ace or Facade or something!!!! And Tepig needs to evolve to Pignite and learn Brick Break and Heat Crash or Flamethrower!!

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    Ash's Tepig learned FlameThrower in the episodes today!!!

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    Ash
    Pikachu - Thunderbolt, Quick Attack, Iron Tail, Volt Tackle, Electro Ball

    Tranquill - Gust, Quick Attack, Air Cutter, Aerial Ace
    Unfezant - Gust/Quick Attack, Aerial Ace, Air Cutter/Air Slash, Sky Attack

    Oshawott - Water Gun, Tackle, Razor Shell, Aqua Jet
    Dewott - Water Gun, Razor Shell, Aqua Jet, Fury Cutter
    Samurott - Razor Shell, Aqua Jet, Megahorn, Hydro Pump/Scald

    Tepig - Ember, Tackle, Flame Charge, Flamethrower
    Pignite - Tackle, Flame Charge, Flamethrower, Arm Thrust, Heat Crash
    Emboar - Flame Charge, Flamethrower, Heat Crash, Hammer Arm, Flare Blitz

    Snivy - Attract, Vine Whip, Leaf Storm, Leaf Blade
    Servine - Attract, Vine Whip, Leaf Storm, Leaf Blade
    Serperior - Attract, Leaf Storm, Leaf Blade, Wring Out/Twister/Vine Whip

    Scraggy - Leer, Headbutt, Hi-Jump Kick, Low Kick, Faint Attack
    Scrafty - Hi-Jump Kick, Low Kick, Faint Attack, Head Smash

    Swadloon - Razor Leaf, String Shot, Tackle, Energy Ball
    Leavanny - Razor Leaf, String Shot, Energy Ball, X-Scissor

    Palpitoad - Hydro Pump, Mud Shot, Supersonic, Sludge Wave

    Roggenrola - Flash Cannon, Sandstorm, Stone Edge, Tackle
    Boldore - Flash Cannon, Sandstorm, Stone Edge, Iron Defense
    Gigalith - Flash Cannon, Sandstorm/Stone Edge, Iron Defense, Power Gem/Solarbeam


    Iris
    Axew - Scratch, Dragon Rage, Outrage
    Fraxure - Scratch, Dragon Rage, Outrage, Rock Smash
    Haxorus - Dragon Rage, Outrage, Rock Smash, Dragon Dance, Draco Meteor

    Excadrill - Dig, Drill Run, Metal Claw, Focus Blast

    Emolga - Volt Switch, Attract, Discharge, Hidden Power


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    Pansage - Bullet Seed, Bite, Solarbeam, Dig
    Simisage - Bullet Seed, Solarbeam, Dig, Brick Break

    Dwebble - Protect, Slash, X-Scissor, Shell Smash, Rock Slide

    Stunfisk - Camouflage, Thundershock, Mud Bomb, Scald
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    Ash's Seismitoad
    Drain Punch, Hyper voice,Hybro pump,Mud shot, Dig (Sesmitoad's punch get twice power when it lump vibrate )
    Ash's Leavanny
    Bug Buzz, Leaf blade, Leaf storm, Signal beam,Razor leaf
    Ash's Gigalith
    Sandstorm, Stone age, Flash cannon,Iron Defense,Return, Smack down,
    Ash's Samurott
    Razor Shall ,Megahorn,Aqua jet, Hydro pump, Blizzard
    Ash's Emboar
    Hammer Hand, Flamethrower, Fire Blast, Head smash, Focus blast, Arm chrust

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    Ash:

    Pikachu - Moveset is good already. I think they got it perfectly

    Unfezant -

    - Air Slash
    - Razor Wind
    - Quick Attack
    - Aerial Ace

    Samurott

    - Shell Blade
    - Ice Beam
    - Hydro Pump
    - Giga Impact

    Tepig - Only additions would be Take Down and Overheat

    Snivy - No changes needed. It's got a solid moveset

    Gigalith - Only additions would be Iron Defense and Solarbeam

    Scraggy - Add Brick Break, Head Smash and Focus Blast

    Leavanny - Can't think of anything

    Seismitoad - Add Earthquake, Sludge Wave, and Hyper Voice
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    Unfezant:
    Air Slash
    Facade
    Sky Attack
    Quick Attack

    Samurott:
    Hydro Cannon
    Aqua Jet
    Megahorn
    Razor Shell

    Pignite:
    Arm Thrust
    Flamethrower
    Heat Crash
    Take Down/Strength

    Snivy:
    Leaf Storm/Tornado
    Giga Drain
    Return
    Vine Whip

    Scrafty:
    Payback
    Faint Attack
    Hi Jump Kick
    Drain Punch/Brick Break

    Leavanny:
    X-Scissor
    Leaf Blade
    String Shot
    Energy

    Palpitoad:
    Hydro Pump
    Mud Shot
    Bulldoze
    Hyper Voice

    Gigalith:
    Iron Defense
    Flash Cannon
    Stone Edge
    Rock Tomb

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    Pikachu: Thunderbolt, Iron Tail, Electro Ball, Signal Beam, Substitute, Nasty Plot, Return, Double Team, Agility, Feint, and Thunder.

    Gabite: Earthquake, Dragon Claw, Draco Meteor, Iron Tail, Crunch, Giga Impact, Rock Climb, Dragon Dance, Dragon Rush, and Sandstorm.

    Charizard: Flamethrower, Seismic Toss, Steel Wing, Iron Tail, Wing Attack, Dragonbreath, Dragon Claw, Shadow Claw, Sunny Day, Solarbeam, and Blast Burn.

    Snorlax: Hyper Beam, Giga Impact, Surf, Rest, Snore, Sleep Talk, Earthquake, Gyro Ball, and Body Slam.

    Heracross: Horn Attack, Brick Break, Bulk Up, Double Team, Slam, Toxic, Poison Jab, Stone Edge, Earthquake,and Megahorn.

    Sceptile: Leaf Blade, Night Slash, Hone Claws, X-Scissor, Sunny Day, Solarbeam, Drain Punch, Photsynthesis, Thunderpunch, Earthquake, Dragon Claw, and Frenzy Plant.

    These are my skillset (possibilities?) for a team I believe is Ash's strongest 6-pack that he has caught. The only reason I did this is because I have no idea what his Unova pokemon are other than the starters and Unfezant, nor am I too keen on the new moves as of yet.

    I made the skillsets this way because I think that pokemon always remember their moves in one way, even though they have 4 moves they use more than the rest.

    By the way, this is my first time posting so if anyone has anything to say about my opinion on the skillset and the choice of pokemon, feel free to say so to me. I'm all ears

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    Pikachu:
    Nothing new. I hope it random;y brings Volt Tackle back during the final battles of BW or something. Relies on it as a finisher the way Thunder used to pop back into its moveset randomly

    Oshawott:
    Aside from giving it Hydro Pump replacing Water Gun Piplup I don't see what they can really do with it if it doesn't evolve. Fury Cutter seems to similar to Razor Shell and it doesn't need to replace Tackle with just another Water attack like Aqua Tail. X-Scissor and Night Slash have the same problem as Fury Cutter, I don't see Air Slash happening. Ice Beam is the best it can hope for as far as diversity goes if it doesn't evolve. If it does reach Samurott it should get Mega Horn for type and style coverage and instead of getting Hydro Pump like Piplup and Palpitoad it can get Hydro Cannon. Dewott using dual "swords" and Samurott drawing his from his sheath is too cool to pass up so Razor Shell needs to stay and with Samurott's horn, Aqua Jet can turn it into a spear (combinations with Mega Horn?) Aqua Jet can also make it all ninja with its Razor Shell. Imagine it seizing its Aqua Jet midway through and lunging into a Razor Shell. Epic finisher.

    Tepig:
    This ones a bit tougher. Flamethrower seems to have replaced Ember so it still just has three moves. I hope they don't just upgrade Flame Charge with Flare Blitz. Its a waste of time, they're so similar. Just let that be Infernape's move. Instead it should get Heat Stamp as its powerful Fire type move and the rest of its move pool can be of different types. Head Smash and Hammer Arm/Arm Thrust for example. Heat Stamp, Flamethrower, Arm Thrust, and Head Smash would be cool.

    Snivy:
    Pikachu swapped Volt Tackle for Electro Ball, Snivy can swap Leaf Storm for a move with less base power. Leaf Tornado sounds stronger at least. Vine Whip is too versatile to be replaced, but Leaf Blade may get replaced. If Snivy evolves Dragon Tail would be an ideal replacement for Leaf Blade

    Scraggy:
    Replace Leer. Remember Pikachu vs Froslass in Ash and Paul's match, how Froslass disappeared in the snow and attacked while unseen? That's how Faint Attack should be animated. That's what I want Scraggy to get. Aside from that, maybe a special Fighting attack like Focus Blast.

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    Unfezant, Tailwind. I think it would be the best strategy for a flying type. Since Ash likes fast Pokemon, tailwind would make her super fast

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    I will only add moves, not actively take away.

    Stephan:

    Zebstrika: Overheat
    Sawk: Payback
    A nice counter-style attack, that also allows him a shot against a ghost-type.
    Other choices would be Grass knot, which maight be interesting but not really fit, and Swagger(You know why).


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    Beartic: Surf, Aerial Ace
    Allows it to get around the main weaknesses it has. Aerial Ace would be interesting to see used by something of that size(and non-flying), and Surf was chosen over Brine as Brine in the anime is yet another "shoot water from mouth"-attack like Hydro Pump and Water Gun... and because Surf in the anime has always been awesome.

    Bisharp: Psycho Cut, Dig, Sucker Punch
    Again, let's it cover its weaknesses, plus Dig could be an effective way to use it's guillotine(dives with guillotine, then if miss, keep going with dig). I suppose Grass Knot could be added to cover Ground. =P

    Sucker Punch is just there because I think it's a neat attack, and it hasn't been used in the anime yet to the best of my knowledge. Snarl is a possible option for a drak type attack, but I'd rather save that one for one of Burgundy's mons(preferably an eventual Purrloin/Liepard).

    Another possibility is learning Thunder Wave as a more effective way than metal Sound to score KOs with guillotine. Imagine Metal Sound>Thunder Wave->Guillotine.
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    Pikachu: Wild Charge
    Unfezant: Detect
    Oshawott: Fury Cutter and Ice Beam
    Pignite: Arm Thrust and Heat Crash
    Snivy: Protect and Aerial Ace
    Scraggy: Payback/Faint Attack and Fire Punch
    Leavanny: X-Scissor
    Palpitoad: Hyper Voice and when it evolves, Drain Punch
    Boldore: Iron Defense
    Krokorok: Thunderfang and when it evolves, Outrage/Dragon Claw

    For his old pokemon:
    Charizard: Sky Drop
    Squirtle: Aqua Tail
    Snorlax: Heavy Slammer and Sleep Talk
    Muk: Something, anything
    Kingler: Dig/Brick Break
    Bayleef: Light Screen
    Totodile: Swords Dance/Dragon Dance and Ice Fang
    Donphan: Ice Shard
    Sceptile: Focus Blast and Acrobatics
    Corpish: Dig (Relearn it)
    Glalie: Gyro Ball
    Torterra: Rock Slide/Stone Edge and Woodhammer (Forget Rock Climb, hasn't won a battle for a long time, useless move)
    Buizel: Rain Dance and Aqua Tail (Evolve please, so similar to Sceptile that it is awesome)
    Gliscor: Earthpower or Bulldoze
    Gible: Fire Blast Dragon Tail (Fully evolve, I beg of you Gible)
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    Unfezant: Sky Attack
    Oshawott: Ice Beam
    Pignite: Arm Thrust, Heat Crash
    Snivy: SolarBeam, Return
    Scraggy: Faint Attack, Zen Headbutt
    Leavanny: X-Scissor, Leaf Blade
    Palpitoad: Echoed Voice
    If Palpitoad evolves: Poison Jab (There's no need for every pokemon and their mother on Ash's team to have a Fighting move)
    Boldore: Power Gem, Iron Defense
    If Boldore evolves: Same
    Krokorok: Foul Play
    If Krokorok evolves: Dragon Claw
    Axew: Slash, Dragon Tail
    Emolga: Acrobatics
    Pansage: Seed Bomb
    Stunfisk: Thunder, Bounce

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    unfeazent-taunt/tailwind,sky attack/giga impact
    pignite-wild charge,brick break
    oshawott-scald
    snivy-giga drain and possibly glare.(but this would ignore the fact that it's an egg move unfortunatly)
    boldore-rock polish
    leavanny-x-scissor,
    scraggy-head smash
    krokorok-foul play and outrage(this would require it to evolve before learning it though)

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    Boldore should learn Iron defense, or Protect.
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    Oshawott: get rid of Water Gun to Water Pulse, replace Tackle with Fury Cutter
    Tepig: learn Heat Crush and Arm Thrust
    Snivy: should get Aerial Ace over Vine Whip
    Scraggy: something Dark type like Payback, replace Leer with Scary Face possibly
    Unfezant: status moves like Detect, Roost or Tailwind will be great, also replace Wing Attack with Sky Attack
    Leavanny: X-Scissors and Swords Dance
    Boldore: Iron Defense
    Palpitoad: Echoed Voice or Sludge Wave
    Krokorok: Dragon Tail
    Axew: Dragon Dance, improve Scratch to Slash
    Emolga: get rid of Hidden Power, learn Acrobatics
    Pansage: Seed Bomb, Work Up
    Stunfisk: Discharge, Bounce

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    Corpish: Dig (Relearn it)
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    Pikachu should learn rain dance and thunder.
    now that would be epic.


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    Quote Originally Posted by The Pwner View Post
    Pikachu should learn rain dance and thunder.
    now that would be epic.
    pikachu used to know thunder actually way back in kanto and I think johto

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