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    Mewtwo Returns!

    Giovanni, Leader of Team Rocket is still after Mewtwo. While Mewtwo and his gang of clones are hiding on top of an unclimbable mountain in Johto. A Rocket Spy named Domino goes up the mountain with Ash and Co. to get over it but also to spot Mewtwo. Will Mewtwo Yield to Giovanni or will Ash save Mewtwo from itself yet again?

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    Meh, I didn't really like this. The plot wasn't that great (Wow! Mewtwo returns for some reason! That is teh kewl!) and some things were confusing (why were the Nidoqueen's babies little Nidoqueen instead of Nidoran females?). But hey, at least this movie means that 4Kids can release dubs of specials. Overal, this special wasn't as good as the movie that came before it, Mewtwo Strikes Back.

    I Give Mewtwo Returns a 8...... out of 10

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    The anime world is different from the game world. Very different. Nidoqueen can't even breed in the games. It only makes sense that they have Nidoqeen and Rhyhorn babies since that's what they are. And no, this is no sign of future TV special releases. This one was an exception because it was a follow up from the first movie and it has Satoshi in it. Anything without Satoshi's staying in Japan.

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    This wasn't a really good sequel. I didn't really like it but Domino was an interesting character. She should've appeared in the anime.
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    I like Domino. She is a great TR Member. She didn`t use pokemon to fight but dark Tulips and bombs. She won with Ash and his gang without troubles. Every TR Member should be like Domino. I think, she is the evilest and the best TR Member in anime.

    I don`t understand one thing. Why Mewtwo couldn`t save his close-friends and the Islands earlier? Giovanni said, if Mewtwo is not docile, he will destroy all clones and his Island. Mewtwo could beat Giovanni and his people without troubles, but he did not do it. Weird.

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    The problem was that the Rockets were holding the Pokémon and the humans hostage. If he didn't cooperate, they would have killed the Pokémon. The only problem I had with this movie is that we see a Gyarados. Why is that a problem? The stupid thing did NOTHING. o_O It had its mouth open through out the entire special and didn't even use Hyper Beam on the prison door or bite through the bars. x_x It might as well have not been there since all it did was sit around with its mouth wide open.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Casey
    I like Domino. She is a great TR Member. She didn`t use pokemon to fight but dark Tulips and bombs. She won with Ash and his gang without troubles. Every TR Member should be like Domino. I think, she is the evilest and the best TR Member in anime.
    No i think Buson and Bashou are eviler than her and even at a higher rank. Buson actually beat up Marina and her pokemon with his fist. talk about brutally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by That Scary Clefairy
    No i think Buson and Bashou are eviler than her and even at a higher rank. Buson actually beat up Marina and her pokemon with his fist. talk about brutally.
    Yes, but they lost with Kenta and Juni`chi. I still don`t know, why so evil and strong Gang like Team Rocket loses with some teenagers. Its weird =/ I don`t think about J&J&M but about others; Bashou and Buson, Butch and Cassidy, that guy from "Pokemon4ever" ......

    Domino is eviler for me and she didn`t lose with Ash

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    Quote Originally Posted by Casey

    Domino is eviler for me and she didn`t lose with Ash
    Yea but J,Jand M made a fool out of her with the pail and all. Buson and Bashou didn't suffer a humliating fate. That why imo they are the badasses.

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    i wanted to buy the video but i had no money and when me,my bros and my baby sitter went to blockbuster to rent it she wouldnt let us! she only let us get films for her! and now i cant find it in stores anywhere...............
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    Quote Originally Posted by PokemasterJ
    i wanted to buy the video but i had no money and when me,my bros and my baby sitter went to blockbuster to rent it she wouldnt let us! she only let us get films for her! and now i cant find it in stores anywhere...............
    that was mean of your babysitter! oh, you can always find the video at
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    Quote Originally Posted by That Scary Clefairy
    No i think Buson and Bashou are eviler than her and even at a higher rank. Buson actually beat up Marina and her pokemon with his fist. talk about brutally.
    That never happened. They had her tied up, and Buson grabbed her Misdrevous in his fist to restrain it, but they never beat her up.

    Also, I think they're of *lower* rank than Domino. They took orders from Shiranui. Domino not only took her orders directly from Giovanni, but was allowed to talk back to him (which also makes me think that she and the Boss have something else going on, with how casual she is around him, but...)

    I think B&B are the same rank as Tyson, myself. But that's for another thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackjack Gabbiani
    That never happened. They had her tied up, and Buson grabbed her Misdrevous in his fist to restrain it, but they never beat her up.

    Also, I think they're of *lower* rank than Domino. They took orders from Shiranui. Domino not only took her orders directly from Giovanni, but was allowed to talk back to him (which also makes me think that she and the Boss have something else going on, with how casual she is around him, but...)

    I think B&B are the same rank as Tyson, myself. But that's for another thread.
    Not hard to be confused, though. We did see Buson walking over to Marina-chan, cracking his knuckles and holding his fist in his hand, like a typical 'I'm gonna kick the crap out of you' person... thing. ^_^o You know what I mean.

    Just a thought, but didn't Shiranui/Sebastian say "Are you the two that are in charge?"? I recall, that's what the subtitles said in both of the versions I've seen.

    ANYWAY. I agree. About the Domino x Giovanni thing. I don't think they're a *couple* or anything... it's more of a 'You'll do what I tell you to when I tell you to' kinda relationship, you know? (Which reminds me of a fic I wrote for my ESB Project on anime. It was Domino x Giovanni, but had Domino killing Gio in the end for Bisashu. XD)

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    I think Shiranui's line indicated 'in charge of this mission' more than anything else. And Buson's bit with cracking his knuckles was to indicate what he would do if she acted up, but I doubt she did after that, so they just tied her up. Which is still mean, but you know.

    And I want to read your fic now. Send it to me. NOW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackjack Gabbiani
    I think Shiranui's line indicated 'in charge of this mission' more than anything else. And Buson's bit with cracking his knuckles was to indicate what he would do if she acted up, but I doubt she did after that, so they just tied her up. Which is still mean, but you know.

    And I want to read your fic now. Send it to me. NOW.
    Sadly, said fic is lying dead/deleted in my 'Area' of my old school. I may have it printed out in my copy of the presentation, though. I'll try to dig it out... it's not very good though. XD Basically, it's from Domino's Point of View, recalling how she used to be on top, one of the best agents there was. But since Giovanni took an even more avid interest in her, there has been no missions, and people have been s******ing behind her back because she's The Boss' B*tch. Then he calls her into his office for ah... 'debriefing' (Literally!) which is where she shots him. (Perfectly, of course. "I wouldn't want blood on the carpet when Lord Bisashu takes over." was the line, I believe. XD *sucks*) I'd like to write something else, though. (With Sebastian being obsessed with Domino. Cause he really wants to... well, *you* know. Forbidden Fruit, and such. "Come on, Seb. You know our *giggle* love can never come to frution... I mean, whatever would Giovanni think! He'd kill you for sure. *giggles, makes suggestive eyes and walks off*" "Damn... *rubs sweat from brow* her a*s never quits.")

    ... ^_^o Yeah, I know XD I apologise for anybody that was offended by that post. XD

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    Sounds like you need to do a rewrite then. I love revolution fics.

    And to get this a little more back on topic, how long do you wager Domino was working at the Institute? And what do you think she did there? (and do you think she was ready to put her fist through the wall if she had to giggle and act like an airhead one more time?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackjack Gabbiani
    And to get this a little more back on topic, how long do you wager Domino was working at the Institute? And what do you think she did there? (and do you think she was ready to put her fist through the wall if she had to giggle and act like an airhead one more time?)
    It wasn't that hard to notice that she wasn't who she said she was. Or then again, maybe it was hard...I don't remember...whatever.

    Anyway, she seemed like a good villain for the special. She may not have been very useful by the end of the movie, but...well...at least she was pretty hot! XD

    Seriously though, she was an interesting character to watch...to watch in the plot, that is. ^_^

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    I find it very strange that she's defeated by something they went out of their way to show her strengths in--that is, her balance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackjack Gabbiani
    I find it very strange that she's defeated by something they went out of their way to show her strengths in--that is, her balance.
    Can you explain that? I didn't watch my video of Mewtwo Returns for a while, so I forgot parts of it.

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    She basically gets defeated by losing her balance--despite demonstrating superhuman balance earlier in the movie. Remember when she did that balancing act out the side of the hot air balloon? And we're expected to believe that she slips on a floor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackjack Gabbiani
    She basically gets defeated by losing her balance--despite demonstrating superhuman balance earlier in the movie. Remember when she did that balancing act out the side of the hot air balloon? And we're expected to believe that she slips on a floor?
    Oh, yeah, I kinda remember now. Esspecially about her slipping on the floor. But how does that mean she was defeated by losing her balance? Because she slipped?

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    Basically yeah. You'd think that superhuman balance could have evened out the slippiness of the wax...

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    This was so cool. Domino is my most favorite character. Especially when she said that she was known to TR as Agent 009.

    EDIT: I didn't like the part where Mewtwo went in the machine.
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    -It still bugs me that 4Kids tried to pass this off as a movie - it's fairly obvious that it's not. The scene changes were obviously where commercial breaks would have been, there were no opening or ending songs, the style of the credits isn't like the movies, etc. They did a good job other than trying to pretend that this is a movie, though.
    -That aside, this special didn't really wow me. The only point it seemed to have was to resolve the fact that Gio still knew about Mewtwo, and to show what happened to the clone Pokemon. Bleh. Having a bus that only comes once a month(I THINK it was a month) seems kind of stupid, even for an out-of-the-way spot. Gyarados might has well been nonexistant for all it did. Domino was cool once she dropped that valley-girl guise. The part where Mewtwo was captured by the robot's energy spehere thing was interesting, but it seemed like the scene was trying to be more dramatic than it was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juputoru
    Having a bus that only comes once a month(I THINK it was a month) seems kind of stupid, even for an out-of-the-way spot.
    Dub change. In the original, it was once a week.

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