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    Clash! Mamoswine VS Aggron!

    Heading towards the next town, while relaxing and looking for water, Ash & Co. come across a wild Aggron. This Aggron soon causes a battle to start with Dawn's Mamoswine. However, Mamoswine still will not obey Dawn. As Mamoswine gets injured, Dawn starts to take care of it. Will a bond form again?

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    it was cool to see Mamoswine and Dawn working together, for once. although, i couldn't tell if it was just a one time thing, or if Mamoswine will listen to her for good. the very end of the episode didn't seem very promising.
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    Hope you all are having fun playing "Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Version: Congratulations Sucker, You Payed 35 Bucks Just to Play as a Toaster". Since I'm also in the mood for rehashing material from two years ago, here comes DP119 Review: Bullet Style! (I'll leave some stuff for you Jup, don't worry)

    - Aggron: "Git away from ma spring watur missy! See the sign? It says, 'TRESPASSERS WILL BE HYPER BEAMED'."
    - Aggron is the Pokemon version of Mimefan. He enjoys beating up on Pokemon mascots for the hell of it, but lacks any intelligent reason for doing so.
    - Mukuhawk is only taller than Gliscor if you count the hair. Cheater.
    - Hikari: "Oh God, I've gotta escape from Santa Barbara County ASAP! I heard Michael Jackson's going back on tour!"
    - ATTN: Kazue Kinoshita - Yanmega hates you.
    - James has Aggron Lv. X from the TCG. Apparently that's more powerful than Aggron EX, which in turn was more powerful than standard Aggron.
    - You know what works better than a flare? ICE BEAM! Everyone in the Pokemon world loves it. Everyone.
    - Mamoswine down. I swear I've seen this all before somewhere, disregarding the fact that Mamoswine is way freaking cooler than Charizard.
    - Flashback! Oh crap, that dumb filler about Pachirisu getting sick and Muku.BIRD vs. Laffy Taffy is actually relevant now?
    - Cue traditional sappy ballad for healing scene. Note that Mamoswine is still cooler than Charizard.
    - Please explain to me how it's physically possible for Pochama to manipulate molecules by having a giant whirlpool suddenly dimisnish to nothing in a bucket without swallowing it back up. Oh yeah, I forgot - it's Pochama, who controls the laws of physics and chemistry as we know it.
    - That's right, Ambipom. Bash that stupid rock into the ground and make noise with it. How else do you think Nickelback became popular? (oh dear, two musical artist slams in one review)
    - Mecha Golem is a new one, but I'm still waiting for Mecha Dunsparce.
    - Mamoswine now defends Dawn. Is this truly the end of its minimally-developed disobedience run? Is this Cinnabar Gym or "Charizard Chills"?
    - Mamoswine now more obedient but retains Gonbe-like personality of 'Food First'

    And true to form, my bullet points have grossly exaggerated the excitement of an episode that was mediocre, quite frankly. For as much flack as I give the Orange League, "Charizard Chills" was a way better episode with better emotion, battling, and development (but equally s***ty animation; "Charizard Chills" was Takeda). While it's unclear if Mamoswine will continue to put food before battling, I really feel its defiant traits weren't used to their full potential.
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    At least it wasn't a total rip off of charizard chills

    I still don't no if mamoswine is gonna start listening to her now though?


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    Meh I'm sure that food thing will be the running gag for Mamoswine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by uber gon View Post
    Meh I'm sure that food thing will be the running gag for Mamoswine.
    Overall, good episode. i like the fact the Ash use both staraptor and gliscor to scout instead of just staraptor. The thing i hated is that Aggron was acting like like the alpha dog hyperbeaming everything that steps on its territory, but ran off after getting hit by a ice shard and hidden power, it could have at least put up a better fight. Its obvious that mamo will start obeying dawn from now, but with a gluttonous nature it wont pay attention when there's food around.
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    I like that "Doc Brock" was referrenced in this episode, because at least they did something with Dawn actually learning how to care for her Pokemon. I thought it would have just been this "hey I think it'd be really cool if Brock actually taught Ash and Dawn something." I'm glad they remembered about it.

    I was expecting a rehash of "Charizard Chills" and "Cutting the Ties That Bind." I'm glad it seems Mamoswine is still not fully obedient yet.

    Was there an opening with today's fun-filled hour? If so, I missed it. Was Staraptor present? I'd love to see those updated pics.
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    I really hope this doesn't turn out to be the end for Mamoswine's disobedience. It wasn't really that amusing watching it ignore Dawn completely, but they didn't do anything of consequence with it. Having it begin to obey but still doing its own thing when it feels it's justified (maybe screwing up the appeal in Dawn's next Contest) would be a better plot development, I think. Then we can have about 10 or 15 episodes of that before it obeys completely.
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    He did appear,briefly,but Staraptor appears indeed
    This was an amusing episode...seeing Aggron more than 5 minutes in an episode is always a treat for me
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    Quote Originally Posted by jolteonjak View Post
    I was expecting a rehash of "Charizard Chills" and "Cutting the Ties That Bind." I'm glad it seems Mamoswine is still not fully obedient yet.
    Meh she's probably a naturally hunger species. It's probably the stereotype of pigs.
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    Mecha Golem is a new one, but I'm still waiting for Mecha Dunsparce.
    Actually, the Mecha Golem was in that Battle Frontier Elekid episode where Phanpy evolved also.

    /nerd post

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    Quote Originally Posted by Korobooshi Kojiro View Post
    Actually, the Mecha Golem was in that Battle Frontier Elekid episode where Phanpy evolved also.

    /nerd post
    I'm embarrassed to admit that I knew that too.

    Anyway at least it wasn't another Steelix! Aggron didn't get much appearances back in Hoenn, oddly enough. It was only in the Steven episode and then Tyson battled an Aggron in the Hoenn league, but that was it till Battle Frontier.

    Man, its times like these I wonder why they don't use Nidoking and Nidoqueen as "rampaging" Pokemon. Where are the Nido's?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyberCubed View Post
    Where are the Nido's?
    I'm sure they're reserved for another Double Battle! Lovely Battle! episode.
    Either the Nidos are fighting together or falling in love, hasn't it seemed? I know Gary has at least a Nidoking, but doesn't he have a 'queen as well?

    I'm sure a rampaging Nidoking episode will deal with it protecting its Nidoqueen mate and their offspri- oh wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Porygandrew View Post
    I know Gary has at least a Nidoking, but doesn't he have a 'queen as well?
    Yes he does. It was in the second-to-final episode of Kanto.

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    Not to mention it was used against Ash in the Johto league.

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    Yeah, its a shame Gary doesn't use his Nidoking or Nidoqueen anymore.

    But between Blastoise (his starter), Umbreon (his second main Pokemon), and Electrivire (Sinnoh advert), I guess there's no room for them.

    Of course the fact that Gary was only in 2 DP eps after all this time doesn't help matters either, the guy barely appears in the show in the first place.

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    Was there an opening with today's fun-filled hour? If so, I missed it. Was Staraptor present? I'd love to see those updated pics.
    I actually don't think there was an opening shown, or atleast the Youtube videos don't have one. They sometimes don't have openings with these big hour specials.

    I wouldn't be surprised if next week they go ahead and change the opening around since it's going into HD.

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    Hmm...the place I get my weekly low-quality dose (i.e. not YouTube) had an opening. Here, lemme take some really sub-par shots (size reduced to 1/3 to make less grainy):

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    Staraptor and Gliscor together just looks so...awesome!

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    Hahaha yeh it was cool alright


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    Quote Originally Posted by Devastator1 View Post
    but ran off after getting hit by a ice shard and hidden power
    Ancientpower, not Hidden Power.

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    The battle wasn't anything epic but I guess this episode got it's job done.

    Adding the flashback to when Pachirisu got sick was a nice touch. It makes that whole episode feel less like a filler and it actually makes Brock seems, well, useful.

    Where it needs improvement:
    - Mamoswine and Aggron battled twice, neither battle was impressive.
    - What was wrong with Piplup, Pachirisu, Ambipom and Buneary? Why where they cowering in fear of a WILD Aggron? Surely together they should be able to take it down at least. Piplup, Buneary and Ambipom all have attacks that are super effective against Aggron and Aggron's steel attacks wouldn't do much against Pachi. On the other hand, Mamoswine, who Dawn and her other 4 pokemon were cowering behind, has a disadvantage to steel and no attacks that wouldn't be extra weak against Aggron.
    - We just seen Aggron rampaging at Iron Island like 10 episodes ago. Why not a Tyranitar or something to replace it? Even a really ****** off Kangaskan would be cool.

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    Correction: Buneary's attacks are Dizzy Punch, Bounce, and Ice Beam, none of which are supereffective on Aggron, who is Rock/Steel.

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    Ironic, I must say! Mamoswine is part ground and have no ground attacks An earhtquake f.ex would fit it well and come in handy.
    Good Mamoswine won at last, and lets hope he does not disobey Dawn so long Charizard did to Ash. If the writers want problems in the Anime, why not about its big size or something like that

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    Points to note:

    -Gliscor and Staraptor working together, being together in the same screen was amazing.
    -I loved how Dawn and Mamoswine now trust each other, it was great seeing a strong bond forming between those two.
    -The scene where Dawn tended to Mamoswine's wounds reminded me of the episode Ash tended to a hurt Charizard (when it had been defeated by a Poliwrath). In that case too, the pokemon had been disobidient up to that episode.

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