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    One of the best battles ever. Only Ash vs. Chuck (because I love Bayleef, who single-handily defeated Chuck) and Ash vs. Clair (my favourite battle ever) can top this almost perfect battle.

    However, this episode hurted my Bayleef-loving heart. I feel like Bayleef should've defeated at least one of Garys Pokemon. When I first saw this episode, the 3th generation did not exist (Milotic, my favourite Pokemon also didn't). Back then, Bayleef was my favourite.

    This was the first time Bayleef was defeated after its evolution. If it loses for the first time, it should at least stand a chance or do something of importance (like against Harrison, it got beaten by Blaziken, but defeated Houndoom and did very well). This humilliation of Bayleef really hurted me and made me crying. But most of you will think that is stupid.

    Aside from me being childish and stupid, great battle! Also nice to see Pikachu not battling, I think Ash treats Pikachu better than its other Pokemon, which is very unfair. Because of that, it was nice to see Pikachu not battling. Also, I have the feeling Gary deserved to win. And Garys Umbreon should've been used.
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    I've always been curious at Gary's arsenal choice. It seems so unbalanced...why would he choose two fire types and two ground types? Weird.

    The animation wasn't the best, and the battle between Charizard and Blastoise is not nearly as epic as I recall. Also, why didn't the field change??
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    Quote Originally Posted by AquaMilotic View Post

    However, this episode hurted my Bayleef-loving heart. I feel like Bayleef should've defeated at least one of Garys Pokemon. When I first saw this episode, the 3th generation did not exist (Milotic, my favourite Pokemon also didn't). Back then, Bayleef was my favourite.

    This was the first time Bayleef was defeated after its evolution. If it loses for the first time, it should at least stand a chance or do something of importance (like against Harrison, it got beaten by Blaziken, but defeated Houndoom and did very well). This humilliation of Bayleef really hurted me and made me crying. But most of you will think that is stupid.
    Maybe it would have been better if Ash had used Bulbasaur. Blastoise was too experienced for Bayleef, being Gary's starter. The only Pokemon except for Pikachu/Charizard that could've matched Blastoise experience was Bulbasaur. But I guess that the writers didn't want to make Charizard's battle easier.

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    Well, continuing from the second part: Choosing Blastoise at this point already was quite a surprise for me. It definitely was a powerhouse of Gary - defeating Heracross, almost KO'ing Muk and defeating Bayleef before being recalled for Arcanine. Seeing Snorlax again and his power was nice for the overall balance, but Arcanine was pretty fast defeated though and the same goes for Nidoqueen.

    Then Scizor was called out against Snorlax - which clearly shows how powerless Snorlax was against a super-fast Pokémon. Gary used a good strategy against Muk with using that Metal Claw and thus sending into the air. And thus Ash was forced to use Charizard and he was great to watch. But now its the opposite of what happened with Magmar versus Heracross - only seeing Ash KO'ing scizor with just one attack. That, to me, came over as an little unrealistic and sided but oh well. Now, the battle between Golem and Chairzard was something I thought was interesting done and it went head-to-head for a moment, but once I saw Charizard using Dragon Rage, it became quite sided again.

    Now, the final - and probably most important for both Ash and Gary - showdown between Blastoise and Charizard. I think they did it perfectly and how it all ended with the Seismic Toss and hearing that epic music, they did it great.

    The ending summarized it whole up. This battle was awesome - and my most favorite one in the entire original series. The happy was great in a way that the rivalry ended between them that started all the way back when Ash and Gary bot got their first Pokémon.

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    Haha. The announcer was shocked to see what was Ash doing with Charizard's Flamethrower. That was funny, it was a pretty intense battle. Gary's Blastoise was sure powerful. I do wish that there was Pikachu vs Umbreon though.

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    this was a good battle the only downside about it was that ash won! gary should have won, why? because he knows how to catch a bunch of pokemon and train them to be the best they all can be by constantly rotating them, where as ash just neglects them and barely trains them. infact the ONLY reason ash won was because his charizard was the only pokemon who was constantly training thanks to being in charific valley all this time.
    finally the ending was a bit of a downer since gary decided to essentially retire from pokemon training to become a pokemon proffessor a good goal but it happened too soon for my taste since we lost a competent trainer. sigh oh well on the positive side even after retiring gary still proved himself to be superior to ash in every way.
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    This was one of the best battles of all time, Ash's strategy with Flamethrower was one of the most unique he's ever used

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    A very excellent episode, nice to see that Pikachu didn't battle at all and gave the spotlight to Ash's other Pokemon. The Ash Vs. Gary final battle of Charizard Vs. Blastoise was just too incredible! One of my favorite episodes of the OS. It's so memorable, everything about this episode. Loved how Harrison was watching, shows what he's gonna be up against. I felt bad for Gary because he's so awesome but I'm happy for Ash. I loved Politoed & Psyduck cheering Ash the entire time, it's so adorable. Awesome seeing Delibird too, I wasn't expecting it.

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    This was an awsome second half of the battle between Ash and Gary.
    - Ash's Snorlax was awsome in this episode, I liked how he knocked Gary's Arcanine out by using Hyper Beam. Then It also defeated Nidoqueen.
    -Muk put up a great battle against Scizor, but sadly it lost.
    -I liked how Charizard OHKO'd Gary's scizor, his battle with Golem was awsome too.
    -Finally Gary sent out his last Pokemon ... Blastoise!
    - I liked it when Ash commanded Charizard to Burn the field using Flamethrower, It was a smart strategy.
    -It was awsome when Charizard managed to defeat Blastoise by using Seismic Toss!
    I'm glad Ash Finally defeated his long-time rival Gary, he finally showed him that he's better than him.
    Later, Ash is up against Harrison, who sent out Kecleon .... a Pokemon from Hoenn region.
    The battle will take place in the next episode.
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    This was an epic battle and resembles the final battle in the first generation of the games. Shigeru should have shown his Zenigame early in the episode rather than now. Because I hoped to see the development from Zenigame all the way up to Kamex.

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    It was a nice episode and Gary was very mature at the end. Just what are Team rocket up to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KGB13 View Post
    We finally get to see the 2 pokemon on the covers of the very first games have a battle and it was good.
    That's true. I never realized that until now.
    What a finish to a truly epic battle between two rivals!

    Glad Ash finally defeated who he wanted to defeat all this time!
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    Ash's Heracross losing to Blastoise's Hydro Pump left a bitter taste in my mouth, but I liked that Muk tried to smother it. Snorlax beating Gary's Nidoqueen with Ice Punch was neat, but I screamed when both Snorlax and Muk were thrashed by Scizor. At least Charizard slayed three of Gary's Pokemon, and seeing Harrison's Kecleon at the end was neat.

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