Disguise Da Limit! (338)

[Cloud Strife]

*sigh* Why the hell would Haruka lose in every Contest she entered? And ONCE AGAIN, the games stats have NO INFLUENCE on the anime. Did you not notice Dusclops wasn't the beefy tank it is in the games?

You guys keep forgetting that in Contest battles, beating the crap out of the opponent is NOT the only way to win. You have to use style while using the right attacks. Skitty used stylish, yet strategic attacks to counter Dusclops' attacks. Dusclops attacks simply just required it to stand perfectly still and just fire off its attacks. Notice how its Hyper Beams and Focus Punches didn't drain much in points from Haruka. Plus she even countered a Focus Punch by having Skitty smack it with its tail.

Get over it, guys. This isn't the games where you can throw your statistics into it. We've seen a small Pokémon trash a much larger one PLENTY of times. I simply cannot understand how in the world an episode like this is so much worse than some others to you guys. e_e

Thank you for not answering one single thing in my post while "replying" to it, that is real helpful. Yeah, Pikachu has crushed bigger opponents before, as have ones attacking TR, but that was it before this. This episode was sickenly cheap and terrible. And until you give me a contradiction to one of my reasons, I will assume you secretly agree with me .

[The Big Al]

Restaint used by Pokemon in contests has given as a reason. Yet I saw no restiant in Dusclops vs. Roselia or Dusclops vs. Dustox. Yet Timmy decides to take it easy on May? What logic are you people using.

I'm surprised how many people agreed with me this time.

[Indigo]

I'm surprised how many people agreed with me this time.

So am I.

But it's a nice change, no?

[Chris]

Thank you for not answering one single thing in my post while "replying" to it, that is real helpful. Yeah, Pikachu has crushed bigger opponents before, as have ones attacking TR, but that was it before this. This episode was sickenly cheap and terrible. And until you give me a contradiction to one of my reasons, I will assume you secretly agree with me .

Look at your post again. Not one sentence there had any questions. So there wasn't any answering needed. You were using game statistics to try to back up your claims. I replied with the statement that GAME STATISTICS DO NOT APPLY TO THE ANIME WORLD. I don't care if you compare leveled Pokémon in the games to the anime. There are no levels in the anime. Dusclops was not the overpowered tank in the anime like it is in the games. Your logic was disproven.

And you also proved that there HAS been smaller Pokémon beating larger ones. You were making it sound like this was something shocking and unbelievable, as if it were something that's never happened before.

As for Blizzard, c'mon. No on knew Skitty's Blizzard would fail after it used it consider it didn't use it again in the episode it learned it. No one was able to predict that it hadn't mastered how to use Blizzard.

And yes, Focus Punch got less of an appeal from a long range, especially since it wasn't exactly stylish and it's been outdone by Skitty using its tail to deflect it and using String Shot to disintergrate it.

Kimimaro did not hold back on Haruka. As we see later on, Shuu isn't exactly a top-notch Coordinator that you all assume he is. He's not exactly perfect. Haruka used a Pokémon that no one's fought against that belonged to her. Plus who's to say a newly gained Pokémon is automatically weak? That sure wasn't the case for Treecko or Taillow. Skitty made better appeals than Duslops and used a better strategy. Kimimaro got too caught up in the battle and used straight out power to try to win, unlike when he did before.

[Tamer Zack]

Timmy is ugly he should of kept his mask on at all time. Pretty much the only good thing in this episode was Dustox and Jessie appeal as for the TC just bad they should of said which 1 of these pokemon is a Hoenn Ice Type.

[Pokemon Fan]

I think some people's comments and disappointements should be seen from the perspective that many have higher expectations for a Contest episode than a normal episode, and also that many were more let down by this episode because they liked the first part of the two parter so much.

The note about Focus Punch being ranged this time and thus not doing as much damage is a good one, especially since Focus Punch in general in the anime is quite a bit less powerful than in the games (since in the anime it works regardless of being hit or not at the end of the turn).

The problem with the super Skitty theory is that aside from this episode I don't recall Skitty ever doing anything to indicate it was a whole lot stronger than most Skitty with its experience level (having read spoilers for most episodes after this included), nor has anyone remarked on it being unusually powerful. It's certainly not Pikachu-level "special."

Anyway, I say unless there are new points to add we should all nurse our wounds, wait for the next episode and agree to disagree. No one's saying the episode had no good points after all, more that some were more bothered than others by certain aspects of it. Perhaps Drew's final remark settles things best. ^_^

Drew: "Well, just goes to show luck plays a part in any battle."

[wobbanut]

I really, truly, enjoyed this episode. Seeing Jessie do so well without cheating, even if she didn't make it past round two, was superb. Hey, she even outscored the phantom! This episode had me eagerly awaiting the episode where she uses James's Chimecho in a contest (if you've seen the guide or pictures, you'll know why). This was definitely one of her best episodes. It was also great seeing May battle a tough opponent and win, even after a rough start.

[Jo-Jo]

I haven't seen the episode yet, so will stay out of the whole debate, but I do have a quick question to ask - did May ever find out that Drew had come to watch the tournament, or did he slip off before she could see him? Just curious.

[V Faction]

The problem with the super Skitty theory is that aside from this episode I don't recall Skitty ever doing anything to indicate it was a whole lot stronger than most Skitty with its experience level (having read spoilers for most episodes after this included), nor has anyone remarked on it being unusually powerful. It's certainly not Pikachu-level "special."

Maybe not directly stated in the Anime, but indirectly we've seen it definitely above average. It beat Ampharos (but honestly it looked poorly trained) and it caught on using Blizzard fairly quick, all at a remarkably low level. True though, after these series of events, we don't see much of Skitty any more, at least not to the level as we've been witnessing it now.

[Cloud Strife]

I am not sure it was this one (I think it was) that said the Dance like a Butterfree, Sting like a Beedrill one, but it is "FLOAT like a butterfly sting like a bee. WTF, get it right, damn you.
Go shoot yourself if you think Skitty should have made it to the finals over the Charizard, or for that matter anyone, it messed up on a Blizzard, and then juggled THREE balls slowly, WOW.
Jessie got screwed, She should have fought May, here is how the seeding works idiots in Japan who created this episode
1 vs 4
2 vs 3
Not 1 vs 3 and 2 vs 4, WHF is wrong with you idiots, you have soccer tournys over there, someone at TV Tokyo must have known how seeding works.

You could have said something about one of these, since the seeding and screwing up Ali's famous quote were the things that really ruined it for me.

And I only used the Lv as an example to say a much weaker Dusclops than a Skitty will still KO a Skitty quite easy with 2 HB's and a Focus Punch, I am well aware of the anime does not equal game for levels.

[Chris]

But that's the thing. It shouldn't matter if Focus Punch can KO a Skitty or not. Skitty and Delcatty have HORRIBLE defenses in the games. Game stats don't play much of a role in the anime. The anime's gone around this several times.

[The Big Al]

But that's the thing. It shouldn't matter if Focus Punch can KO a Skitty or not. Skitty and Delcatty have HORRIBLE defenses in the games. Game stats don't play much of a role in the anime. The anime's gone around this several times.

It shouldn't, at least not to this degree.

[Cloud Strife]

But that's the thing. It shouldn't matter if Focus Punch can KO a Skitty or not. Skitty and Delcatty have HORRIBLE defenses in the games. Game stats don't play much of a role in the anime. The anime's gone around this several times.

Not that much, Pikachu gets knocked out by big attacks, Gyarados and others are hard to take down, Dragonite is like a god. They keep it somewhat in like with the game. Not like they have Caterpie's who can beat anything or something like that.

[Chris]

Not like they have Caterpie's who can beat anything or something like that.

Someone sure forgot that a newly captured Caterpie was able to defeat TWO trained Poison Pokémon with String Shot and Tackle yet had a hard time against a Flying-type. ¬¬

[Cloud Strife]

Someone sure forgot that a newly captured Caterpie was able to defeat TWO trained Poison Pokémon with String Shot and Tackle yet had a hard time against a Flying-type. ¬¬

TR have been beat by everything except Magikrap, so that does not count. Exactly, it could not beat Pidgeotto, I am not sure what you got confused there, but you did

[Chris]

Doesn't count? This was BEFORE the Rocket Gang became bumbling idiots who ALWAYS lose. Caterpie had not been trained yet, yet it beat two Poison-types (when Bug was weak to Poison at the time) that were trained well enough to beat Pidgeotto yet lost to Caterpie who had a hard time against Pidgeotto.

The point is that that event was the first time something so small pummeled Pokémon bigger and stronger than it and that Skitty against Dusclops shouldn't be some shocker that you're all making it out to be.

[The Big Al]

String Shot had covered their bodies so that they couldn't defend themselves. Then Caterpie began running to build up speed and Tackled under them to sent them flying. He didn't knock them out but they couldn't baattle because they were covered in String Shot. Also, Caterpie was weriously worn out after the battle.

[Gravy]

String Shot had covered their bodies so that they couldn't defend themselves. Then Caterpie began running to build up speed and Tackled under them to sent them flying. He didn't knock them out but they couldn't baattle because they were covered in String Shot. Also, Caterpie was weriously worn out after the battle.

Well, of course, thats strategy for you. It was pretty weak when sent into battle, so it had to rely on some quick thinking to get it through, and it worked wonders.
After having Koffing impact its craium at that speed, I'm willing to bet that at least Ekans was Ko'd in that (awesome, awesome, AWESOME) battle. And of course, it most likely worked vice versa for Koffing~
Caterpie was seriously worn out before battle too. Fleeing for its very life and being headbutted by a Pidgeotto diving at full speed before impacting a tree with its head can't have done much for it~
*ahem* I needed to reply to a Caterpie-based comment as all...

As for the Contest match itself, I personally think it wasn't as good as it could have been.
I expected Skitty to feeze the Hyber Beams using its newly aqquired Blizzard, then slide along the bridge formed by the frozen beam attack, whilst launching a volley of Embers and Silver Winds via its Assist. If something like that would have happened, it would have been a whole lot better~ Even with the limited attacks Skitty has at this time, there was SO much the writers could've done with them. Shame really, but whats done is done I suppose. All the contest episodes after this are a lot better anyways~
As for Skitty's appeal in the first round. Well, I suppose juggling demonstrates coordination of the hand-eye kind or something, and thats what was so impressive about it? *shrugs* They could've had Skitty freeze the juggling balls to make it look prettier rather than just have it juggle x.x

[~*Aurora Wish*~]

I didn't like that flashback of Timmy's mom crying because the butler took away her Poocheyena. But the contest was great!

[Akane]

I thought this epsiode was great also. ^^ May did a great job at the end. At first she was losing, but she came back at top. Also I liked when it shows a flashback when Mrs. Grim was a kid. She got her Poocheyena taking away. I said to myself "That is why she didn't like Pokemon." I was wondering that. That was nice. But anyway May won another ribbon. So great.

[Pokemon Fan]

I think a basic consensus here would be simply that the battle could have been MUCH better than it was. I don't think that many here would object to Skitty winning if it had done so in a bit more of a believable way, anime wise.

Take the Caterpie incident. For one thing it caught Ekans and Koffing completely off guard as they weren't expecting it to even defend itself. Secondly they didn't launch Poison attacks at it, just rushed at it madly. Thirdly, Caterpie took no more damage after its battle with Pidgeoto, it's likely it would have been beaten had a hit landed on it. Finally, they made it semi-clear Ash's Caterpie wasn't ordinary, the pokedex stating it was evolving more quickly than any Caterpie ever recorded before.

P.S. Though many seem to be neglecting my former point that Skitty was not hit directly by the Hyper Beams, they appeared to only graze it. Not to mention the Hyper Beams were quite small and weak looking.

[ShinyEspeon]

It was a really good episode
=3

[Shiny May]

a nice ep. the skitty vs dusclops contest battle was good imo. It was sad to see that May's score was kinda low (24. something or something like that!) Sad how she looked but I liked the expression on her face when she heard she was going to be in the finals.

[Super Gullwing]

Truley one of my favorite eppisodes

NAUH! I Bet Noboby Knows why! XDD!

[Chris]

Finally saw the episode in English. God, 4Kids must love finding things they need to edit in an episode that doesn't require edits. They changed the Pokéball on Kimimaro's pen into a red ball with white stripes..FOR NO REASON! XD