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    For a while now, I've been thinking of something like a sort of Jurassic Park in Pokemon, though I haven't got much other than that. The original idea I had was the park would have Pokemon they way they were before being trained by human, basically ferocious and bloodthirsty. Now though, I kind of want to do it with Fossil Pokemon, as that would probably fit the overall 'Jurassic Park' theme better.
    Ah, I just had to respond to this. I had an idea to do a fic like this about three years ago, but never got around to it.

    Anyways, I would think that it would be more original if it were before the Pokémon had been trained, since using the fossil Pokémon seems entirely too expected, and rather limited in it's scope, unless you plan on having variants of the fossil Pokémon due to extensive changes to their genetic makeup while creating them.

    If you do it with untrained Pokémon, will it be a world that has just discovered Pokémon, or will they have their own Pokémon but certain species are considered too violent/powerful to be trained, so they are instead used in attractions worldwide?

    Or have a world were people have found fossils of Pokémon and are now resurrecting them because curiosity and greedy corporate-ness (so a AU were Pokémon once existed, but have now been discovered. You wrote a one-shot detailing something like this, yes?)

    Going off that last thought, they could discover that some Pokémon are fairly friendly, while others... not so much. The Pokémon could also be found to be quite intelligent, enough so where they can understand commands with proper training. This causes concern as to whether or not they can be contained and from there it gets into the Jurassic Park theme with the raptors and whatnot.

    As a huge fan of Jurassic Park (both the books and the movies), I wouldn't mind seeing a fic on here based on it, even though I've already seen a few Pokémon/Jurassic Park fics before. If you do decide to make one, I would be interested in assisting you with writing it or providing ideas/feedback, if you'd like.

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    Thanks for responding, I really like some of the ideas you've put forth.

    (so a AU were Pokémon once existed, but have now been discovered. You wrote a one-shot detailing something like this, yes?)
    It's only loosely based on my old one-shot, I intend on having it take place in the main universe, with pokemon and humans living alongside each other. The original idea I had for this was going to be pretty much a continuation of the one-shot, though I decided to change that because I wanted it to be a bit more original.

    I've got the idea of 'Primalology'(VERY early name, I know it's a terrible name), which is the study of how pokemon lived before humans.

    I've actually already posted the story, though it's only the prologue, since I'm focusing on my other story, The Elegant Jaw, at the moment.

    "They should all be destroyed..." -Robert Muldoon, Jurassic Park

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    I know this is going to be a wall of text, so let me begin by saying I'm not sure this really fits here, given its length and rather lack of the narrative itself because that would even unbearably longer. And, as you can probably tell, I only really made this account because I've always loved Pokemon, and had this strange kind of ever-building analysis of what it would be like to truly be in that universe. What the actual streets and houses and shops and things would have to be like. And what it would be like to travel, and that led to thinking about the lack of acres and acres of orchards and wheat and corn and vegetables that would always turn up for days even when driving by car.

    So, I've been thinking of this kind of 'explanation' to things in Pokemon. I've been thinking about it almost since as long as I can remember, by early Elementary school, certainly. But back then it was pretty whimsical 'I bet all the grocery stores are stocked by Pokemon gathering fruit from all the forests' and imagined asking a Pokemon for help getting the cereal I liked. So this is not exactly a fic idea, per se, but more an extrapolated explanation of a lot of stuff in the Pokemon Universe. I'm not sure exactly if this is the right place for this, but a lot of it is my own wild speculation and another member recommended I talk about this here, so here we are.
    As I got older I started to make up my own 'Journey' stories for my Pokemon characters (I hope I'm using that right, I think I know what it means from reading through this forum a bit) some of which were of course interwoven with characters from the show which I always loved to watch even as I got older, especially in middle school. But much of that was left lacking both in the limited material I had on the actual 'World' of the Pokemon 'Verse at my disposal. Eventually I stopped watching the anime, getting more and more into the game and then at some point someone told me about the Pokemon Special Adventures manga. I didn't want to dive into it at first, but then when I figured out that it didn't star Ash and that the world was much more like the games my interest was piqued. Imagine me, short dark hair, sitting slumped beside a bungalow feet stretched toward the chain-link fence facing the street, playing my old GameBoy with its magnifying lens attachment, looking up blinking into the failing autumn sunlight just as the decision was made to read the first volume that night instead of watching Star Trek, which would always be there anyway if it turned out I didn't like it.

    But even after I had sated myself once I got to the Emerald arc, I had burning questions whose answers I couldn't yet come up with. Most prominent of which was What do people in the Pokemon world eat? That sly question which people who like being clever often bring up when discussing 'Things About Pokemon Which Beg Explanation' (hello, yes, umm... also one of those people, clearly, yes) another popular one, Who's Ash's dad?, and by extension, the other characters' parents? Both in the game and manga if parents aren't prominent in the characters' lives they aren't really mentioned. It seems to suggest that it is commonplace that often children are raised by one parent and that there is an understanding that no one need to ever discuss why this is. Not even idle conversation, although I can't be sure how extensive the anime is on this subject because I haven't seen most of it by now. I confess a much heavier bias towards the manga since I like it a lot more. Anywho, after learning about that post by AndyNemo of Tumblr (or perhaps it was someone else, I also confess to often not being as diligent as others on confirming authenticity) about how Giovanni was the good guy all along and they have a fantastic breakdown of the Rocket motto which reveals the secret if you look at it contextually. (I would of course put a link here not only as a good break in the wall of text, but to be fair to the progenitor of the idea, only I'm so new that I cannot yet do so; spam filters, y'know)

    Not that this post answered those particular questions, however its generally understood that new information or a fresh perspective can open up all kinds of new thoughts once its had time to process. And I thought, well yes it makes a lot of sense that Giovanni is behind the scenes trying to keep their worlds from being split up by crazed cults of doom by keeping them from harnessing enough power to do so. Who else is?
    By this time during my education, I had learned much about How Things Are Run i.e. governments and what is needed to sustain the different types of lifestyles within the societies we have observed in human history. So when looking at Pokemon, we have the answer to whatever factors go into making the world we see in the games and manga and anime, we just don't have the equation itself. So we have to work backwards; I must work within the laws established within the windows from which we see their world. And I have come to the conclusion that these myriad island nations are overseen by a benevolent autocratic dictatorship called The Pokemon League.
    I'm not saying that the League is evil or anything, I said that they were a benevolent dictatorship, but still, y'know, a dictatorship. They are all clearly ruled by their strongest trainer, the League Champion of their region apparently serving as the primary policy maker of that region's Pokemon League chapter. And in a society whose economic system is clearly heavily dependent upon Pokemon, the one who controls official policy regarding the treatment of Pokemon and the Pokemon industry has almost all the power in that society. The only other powerful entity that intervenes on matters of national security being the International Police who we don't see until Diamond and Pearl. Other than those two organizations it doesn't seem like any other entity is running things or otherwise keeping an eye out for organizations trying to take over their regions.
    Especially in the manga, Giovanni sometimes arrives as a sort of deus ex machina to intervene in cataclysmic events he had been monitoring usually for reasons of personal gain which are often left not entirely clear. So perhaps we could tentatively add Team Rocket to that list, however, there a few problems with that. First is that they are actively working against the current reigning government which officially makes them enemies of the state if not an outright terrorist organization according to their laws, for upsetting and endeavoring to upset the current balance of power which can and has been bad for their society. Second, they do not respect Pokemon as much as the League does, though I have my own theories as to why this is. They regularly engage in research deemed unethical and dangerous to Pokemon and humans by the League, and have likely hurt or killed many Pokemon and people in the course of their activities as well. Thirdly Team Rocket members themselves have been central to a few apocalyptic events, and while they did so while not under the command of Giovanni, they still did so under the Rocket banner and so that should count against them as a whole.
    I imagine Giovanni, and Team Rocket while under Giovanni, to be the ones plugging up holes and filling up cracks that the League and the International Police don't see, behind the scenes, most of the time. I mean, we only really see their world through people who are pro-Leaguers, so who knows what sorts of things the mysterious and inscrutable Giovanni and his Team Rocket get up to while the League isn't looking? Perhaps they saved the world on their own a few times, seems to happen often enough that they'd get their chance eventually. But even if they do save the world, and keep it spinning, they are still a criminal organization. They do not get their revenue from tax payers or donations so they must run front businesses like the casinos to make/launder money or they just take what it is they need. They also further their own research to stay on top of world developments in fields they feel the League is neglecting, employing top scientists which make legitimate breakthroughs. What sort of brilliant scientist would join an obviously illegal research group? Some of them were evil, yes, but most aren't; in their hideouts they don't always fight you, even though you are an intruder. And the ones that do, well, you just happen to be on opposite sides of a line drawn in the sand; I'm not saying that the scientists, whatever you think of them, are innocent. They must have known what they were getting into, but I do want to point out that a society in which a large amount of legitimately brilliant researchers feel the need to become criminals in order to make money is not a very balanced society. It's something similar to what has been pointed out about the Scooby-Doo universe, why are so many brilliant people turning to petty crime? Why does everywhere the Mystery Gang goes there seem to be a plethora of large, abandoned buildings or carnival grounds or factories or amusement parks or whatever in which they perpetrate their schemes? There has been speculation about the economic collapse of their world as the reason for most of the plots of that show. But I digress. You can see parallels (or at least where I could draw parallels) between these phenomena in these different worlds, so it doesn't seem so far fetched to suggest that tight economic control on what someone can or can't do with their skills could be effecting the Pokemon world; in their case control via the League dictatorship, rather than the realities of the aftermath of an economic breakdown.
    So what does all of this projected politics of the Pokemon 'Verse do to answer my question about what people eat in this world? Well clearly there is enough food to sustain everyone, and it must all be grown or otherwise cultivated somewhere, and the only place that I can think of big enough to feed all the people we see living in these large island communities would have to be another, much larger region than we've seen so far (if not, then perhaps a couple regions on the larger side of the ones we've seen) dedicated economically to providing these smaller, united, super-powered island nations with what they need to sustain their society. Looking at it from every angle I could think of, this seems to be the most likely solution to how the Pokemon world can operate as we observe it. I also think that by necessity, this large region would also have to have a relatively small Pokemon population since clearly Pokemon in the other regions have all but obliterated the regular animal population. We hardly see normal animals at all in the series, and usually as part of the background or something; which makes sense since how can a regular mouse compete with a Rattata or Pikachu? How quickly do you think the natural populations of animals in those regions fell to the rise of Pokemon? I think that control over Pokemon populations in a society which knows that they will all starve if they go the way of the other nations would be very, very important to them.
    And it is about here that this spins off further and further into my own wild projections of what that continent would be like, and how those people would live. For example, this nation themselves would not be home to very many technological advancements, but it does reap all the benefits of the research performed in the other, Pokemon oriented nations because that's what they trade their food for. There would be less an emphasis on self-oriented goals, and more promotion of the value of regular, productive members of society. And I mean productive in the classic, literal sense; what do Pokemon trainers actually produce? They have strong Pokemon, yes, that is something intrinsic that they 'make' and they have the vast technical knowledge and training to use them extremely well, but how does that keep society spinning on a daily basis? We are of course familiar with the grand adventures they go on to save the world from total destruction, and of course the entire world would have ended many times over if not for them, I am not denying that. But the reason they keep doing so is to protect the infrastructure that holds up their way of life, infrastructure made up by post carriers and grocery store clerks and dentists and contractors ect. But it is these people, much more like you and I than these prodigy Pokemon trainers, which hold up the world while its not being threatened by crazy people with incredibly powerful Pokemon. So it would make sense to me that in a society where their only advantage is to produce what the other nations cannot that they would stress more the importance of making something that has value to everyday society, rather than the pursuit of personal grandeur.

    Anyway, so that is the gist of my 'explanation' for Pokemon; I have my own narrative that I have thought up to weave through this world, but this post damn long enough already so perhaps some other time. If you're still reading this then, well, thank you. I am a trained writer; I am used to telling things through narrative, not separating the world from the story. At least, not when writing things down. So I didn't really know how to start, or how to end or what I should mention and what I should leave out. I've also never written any of this down before, so this is also a very rough draft. So if you've stuck it out this long, you've had much more patience with me than I have. I feel I have reached the end of what my own mind can muster up from all these years of immersing it in Pokemon and I am interested to know what other Pokemon fanatics think of this thing I made up. The only other thing I could possibly ask from you is to tell me what you think. What you think works, and what doesn't work, and why. Or if you have questions, or whatever, really. The only thing worse than being told it's bad is being ignored completely, heh.

    EDIT:I think that perhaps I'll post the narrative I have in mind in a separate post to this one and just refer to this post instead of going into detail in the other one. I think I can avoid making that a wall of text as well if I do.
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    Hello, I recently got a story idea in my head, and I wanted to get a general idea of what people thought of the concept.

    The protagonist, Marcel, doesn't initially want to be a pokemon trainer, aside from keeping a pet Mudkip. He's been working as a Jr Aide for Professor Treename (yes, that name is a placeholder), but one day, the Professor finds a talking Riolu. The Riolu has no memory of why it can talk, only traumatic impressions and a few scars around its throat and cranium. The Professor thinks that the best way to figure out what happened is to send Marcel out to bond with the Riolu as a trainer. He believes that if the Riolu went out and saw the world it would jog his memory, and it would be helpful psychologically if he had a trainer to open up to. He also thinks that Marcel could use the life experience anyway. So a reluctant Marcel, his Mudkip, and the Riolu set out together to collect badges and hopefully uncover just what happened to the Riolu.

    This is not my first fanfic, just my first Pokemon fic, so I do think I have the experience to pull this off. My main concern is what people think of the idea of a talking Pokemon, and is Riolu too cliche. I can't do much about the talking Pokemon bit, but I was considering using a Meinfoo or something instead. Any feedback or ideas would be appreciated

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClickClackTheBlueGuy View Post
    Hello, I recently got a story idea in my head, and I wanted to get a general idea of what people thought of the concept.

    The protagonist, Marcel, doesn't initially want to be a pokemon trainer, aside from keeping a pet Mudkip. He's been working as a Jr Aide for Professor Treename (yes, that name is a placeholder), but one day, the Professor finds a talking Riolu. The Riolu has no memory of why it can talk, only traumatic impressions and a few scars around its throat and cranium. The Professor thinks that the best way to figure out what happened is to send Marcel out to bond with the Riolu as a trainer. He believes that if the Riolu went out and saw the world it would jog his memory, and it would be helpful psychologically if he had a trainer to open up to. He also thinks that Marcel could use the life experience anyway. So a reluctant Marcel, his Mudkip, and the Riolu set out together to collect badges and hopefully uncover just what happened to the Riolu.

    This is not my first fanfic, just my first Pokemon fic, so I do think I have the experience to pull this off. My main concern is what people think of the idea of a talking Pokemon, and is Riolu too cliche. I can't do much about the talking Pokemon bit, but I was considering using a Meinfoo or something instead. Any feedback or ideas would be appreciated
    Folding this into the Fic Ideas thread!

    In any case, I think it'd be interesting. It's not every day you have a fic that deals with a protagonist who's forced to go out onto a journey, and it'd be fun to see Marcel's thoughts on that. There's a lot of potential for character growth just with that. On top of that, it'd be cool to see what you do with the concept of a talking Pokémon as a rarity. Normally, authors have Pokémon be able to speak or be restricted to animalistic noises, which means they don't really address Pokémon communication at all (or do so with a kinda fudged explanation), so it'd be nice to see someone tackle that concept head-on.

    Long story short, I think the general concept is awesome, talking Pokémon and all (especially given that the talking Pokémon is actually not a common thing). As for whether or not you should use Riolu, tbqh, I think your second idea of using Meinfoo sounds more interesting, not only because Riolu is (as you've said) a rather common Pokémon to use but also because people just sort of accept that Riolu has odd powers thanks to the whole aura thing. Meinfoo has less of a reputation, so it'd probably be more significant to use one in the plot you're going for.

    Good luck! Looking forward to seeing your story around the forum~!

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    Hey guys,
    I have this idea for a fic about a group of young trainers who are enlisted by Steven Stone's S.T.O.N.E. Organization to participate in the Rangers Initiative. This is a group of kids who are being trained by Steven Stone to be a response team whenever Team Rocket (or someone else) decides to terrorise the cities of Johto or Kanto again. I think that the members will be Red, Blue, Gold, Silver and Green. I am trying to give a bit of an Avengers feel to it. Any tips on how I can make this a great story? Should I also write little intros for these characters?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutchguy1994 View Post
    Hey guys,
    I have this idea for a fic about a group of young trainers who are enlisted by Steven Stone's S.T.O.N.E. Organization to participate in the Rangers Initiative. This is a group of kids who are being trained by Steven Stone to be a response team whenever Team Rocket (or someone else) decides to terrorise the cities of Johto or Kanto again. I think that the members will be Red, Blue, Gold, Silver and Green. I am trying to give a bit of an Avengers feel to it. Any tips on how I can make this a great story? Should I also write little intros for these characters?
    I think that's a pretty cool idea. Only thing is, why is it Steven Stone's organization and it takes place in Kanto/Johto? I think it should expand to every region, but it's your idea, not mine
    Sorry I've been gone so long! I have no real excuse or explanation, but I hope I can be more active after my summer vacation!

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    Hey,
    thanks for the quick reaction. Well, I was thinking that I could give it an interresting spin because I could maybe work in somesort of power struggle between Steven and his dad who is still the director of the Organization. I chose these regions because of the characters I wanted to use. They are originally from those two regions, but I could always 'travel' to the other regions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutchguy1994 View Post
    Hey,
    thanks for the quick reaction. Well, I was thinking that I could give it an interresting spin because I could maybe work in somesort of power struggle between Steven and his dad who is still the director of the Organization. I chose these regions because of the characters I wanted to use. They are originally from those two regions, but I could always 'travel' to the other regions.
    Well, in that case, why not choose a different leader? After all, the majority of your characters are from Kanto/Johto (and you've probably got your heart set on using them), and there doesn't seem to be a specific reason why the organization has to be led by Steven. Moreover, Steven is based in Hoenn, which has very little Team Rocket presence across the various canon universes, so it's difficult to imagine why he would be interested in them rather than, say, Teams Aqua and Magma. Or even Team Flare, if we mix in a little animeverse canon. So as an alternative, there are plenty of decent choices from Kanto/Johto, such as Lance, who is (according to the anime) canonically a G-man/someone who works with the police forces to take down Team Rocket anyway. Or you could even use Looker, who's not based in any specific region and is part of the organization explicitly geared towards taking down all of the evil organizations around the world. It wouldn't take much to say Looker's assembling a team of spunky trainers to fight Team Rocket.

    ...I mean, besides the awkwardness that is the fact that this organization is relying on a task force of only five kids/teens instead of far more experienced trainers who were already trained specifically for law enforcement. This kind of premise may work for the Power Rangers, but I think part of the charm of the Power Rangers is that it acknowledged how ridiculous that exact premise was and shamelessly ran with the cheese. Avengers, meanwhile, uses a bunch of heroes who are not only older but, for the most part, have trained with their abilities for a long while and were chosen specifically for their abilities by a man who's spent decades being a cold, hard fighter. That's why they don't necessarily have to answer the question of why they were chosen to fight the forces of evil: because they are literally the only people who can punch evil in the face and not die, and they know this because they've been doing it before they signed up.

    Point is, I'm a little worried about the idea of an Avengers-style fic because you're taking a bunch of kids/teenagers and the heir of a tech company and banding them together to take out a great evil, so the comparison isn't entirely there. (Meaning, it kinda feels like you chose the characters before thinking about their roles in your fic, which isn't necessarily bad so much as something that makes this more of a challenge to get to work, if that makes sense.) If, however, this was a sentai fic that drew comparisons with the Power Rangers, then that might be a bit easier to swallow because, well, the Power Rangers acknowledges that it's a block of cheese, and it just kinda runs with it and the ridiculousness of asking five ordinary teenagers to fight the forces of evil using Jackie Chan-style martial arts.

    Or in other words, it could work but probably more as a PR-style sentai fic than an Avengers-style, band-together-a-bunch-of-characters-and-go-style fic. And either way, probably not with Steven Stone as the leader. I mean, even if you brought in that power struggle, that would kinda draw attention away from the fight against Team Rocket, which may be something you don't want here. Besides, Kanto and Johto are filled with a lot of really interesting characters who actually are against Team Rocket, so any one of them would probably be a better choice for your Zordon/Nick Fury-ish character.

    Good luck!

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