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    Okie, this is Naloshay's mate, Night~

    Lol, I can never come up with good/original names |D

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    Teh Cool.

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    I apologize for not reading through the rest of the thread, so my commments may be similar to others in that respect, but I did glance at all of the art in the thread.

    As a whole, it seems like your characters are in too static of positions, there were only a handful of ones that weren't in the typical standing on two legs, or standing on 3 legs with a paw sticking out pose. From what I see it seems like you have the understanding to do it, but they all end up looking the same for the most part since they all just sort of stand or sit there with few body parts in a different position.

    Next thing I see is that your shading is either odd or extremely non-defining. I myself am learning about shading, so I can't say everything I am about to is law or anything, just a few things I noticed about your works.

    To start with, your shading seems waayyyy too soft, which soft is fine for transitioning from one shade another, but you only use about two shades and that makes it look extremely flat. Things in real life can get really dark, really quick. Using only two shades would work with your soft transition style, execept the colors don't contrast that much. It seems to me that your shades are either light 1 and light 2, or dark 1 and dark 2. Its that lack of contrast between the shades which seems to make your art flat.

    This also ruins your cast shadows, as shadows DO get softer around the edges, but you have made them so soft you can't tell where they are. Which is VERY bad, as shadows are one of the best things to use as far as showing the light source to your viewer. Plus it can downright cripple pictures like the one with Lopunny and buneary near the top of this page. You really can't tell that its eyebrows, neck, or anything is actually casting a shadow.

    Lastly on the subject of shading, the way you shade certain things is odd. Such as the red and black mightyena two posts or so above mine. Its fur is shaded like a cloud or something, unlike fur which is made of seperate pieces hair running in straight lines. I noticed you have done it more realistically on the second flareon of your first post, so it may be a style preference, but it looks odd.

    Final thing I have to talk about is the linework. The lines you have are almost all thick, black lines which looks very unattractive unless used in a certain style(like some old japanese art, which utilized thick brushes). The main reason I find this so is that, when you have something that is supposed to be the highlight say on something like a ball, the brightness gets canceled out by the fact that there is a huge black line around it. Keep in mind in real life there are no lines, only shading to define edges, and edges are lost when the same value of light is around everything.

    I think that if you like the thick black line style you should try to vary the widths, and go for something like the art of Zelda:Wind waker which utilizes it as a style. Example below.

    http://a1.vox.com/6a00cd9705cc8e4cd5...b2193c7f-500pi

    Hopefully some of this helps. When I write up a long post like this I tend to make mistakes in getting my point across on certain things, so if you have any questions feel free to ask.
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    -Raiga-, thank you so much for the critique ;A;

    I am very unimaginative when it comes to poses XD But perhaps experimenting with more complicated ones will help me a bit~

    Gah, I suck at shading |D I think the main problem is the fact that I rely so heavily on the burn/dodge tools... It makes shading a lot quicker than picking individual shades, and I'm uh, lazy..... Maybe I should go back to my old style of shading when doing things like fur~
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    Or at least try to make it LOOK like fur XD

    The reason that I use such thick lines on lineart is because I have shaky hands, and have found that when I use thinner lines, my stuff tends to look very scribbly, like on that picture of Ryu a while back. Heck, even the ones with thicker lines look scribbly |D But hopefully, if I find some way to lower the sensitivity on my tablet, I'll switch to thinner lines~
    Though, I think I might try experimenting with varying my line thickness~

    Again, thank you so muuuuch~ You've been a big help~ :3

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLupineOne View Post
    Teh Cool.

    Are you taking requesties? ;-)
    Well, my shop is closing down, but if you pm me, I'll see what I can do~
    Though I've been so busy with college lately, that I haven't been able to draw much D|

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rika_of_Thunder View Post
    Gah, I suck at shading |D I think the main problem is the fact that I rely so heavily on the burn/dodge tools... It makes shading a lot quicker than picking individual shades, and I'm uh, lazy..... Maybe I should go back to my old style of shading when doing things like fur~
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    Or at least try to make it LOOK like fur XD
    Well, its good to know that I helped a little. The part in the quotes does bother me a little though, as I do understand that it is easier however there is a huge problem with using the burn/dodge tools. That being either a different colored light or reflected light that bounces a color of a surface onto another.

    An example would be a red apple on a blue table. The light would bounce off the table and some of the blue would be projected onto the apple's dark spot. Naturally blue looks a lot different than the red of an ordinary apple, or in the case of using the burn tool it would have a crimson color. You may have already known all of this, but I just wanted to make it apparent that light isn't always white or yellow, in which case the burn and dodge tool would be incorrect to use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -Raiga- View Post
    Well, its good to know that I helped a little. The part in the quotes does bother me a little though, as I do understand that it is easier however there is a huge problem with using the burn/dodge tools. That being either a different colored light or reflected light that bounces a color of a surface onto another.

    An example would be a red apple on a blue table. The light would bounce off the table and some of the blue would be projected onto the apple's dark spot. Naturally blue looks a lot different than the red of an ordinary apple, or in the case of using the burn tool it would have a crimson color. You may have already known all of this, but I just wanted to make it apparent that light isn't always white or yellow, in which case the burn and dodge tool would be incorrect to use.
    Yes, I see what you mean~ Like if the character is standing next to a fire or something, that would apply as well, or light reflected from water. These are things I've never really even touched in the past XD
    Time to practice! 8D

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    Okie, this didn't really turn out too good, but I wanted to post it here cuz I tried a new style of shading on it, trying to follow -Raiga-'s advice~

    It was a request done for Mr. Joker~
    I used three darker shades instead of just using the burn tool~
    Tell me what ya think~

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rika_of_Thunder View Post
    Okie, this didn't really turn out too good, but I wanted to post it here cuz I tried a new style of shading on it, trying to follow -Raiga-'s advice~

    It was a request done for Mr. Joker~
    I used three darker shades instead of just using the burn tool~
    Tell me what ya think~
    On the contrary I think its a great picture. My personal favorite of yours so far. You did a great job keeping the outline thick while making the details within the picture with a thin brush.

    The only things I see as a problem on here is mainly some of the shading. I thinks your shading style lends itself well to the bushes on its feet, however I think a harder type of shading would work better for the rest of its legs and body, since it seems more like a hard substance and less of the soft bushes. I think you tried to do it more on the insides of the legs, and it worked well, I would just make the contrast between the greys a little bit more.

    I think I forgot to post it before, but this link should help with generally everything from shading to linework. I'm still learning stuff from it myself.

    http://itchstudios.com/psg/art_tut.htm#light_stuff

    Edit: I almost forgot to mention the work you did on the perspective. It's nice to see a tad more dynamic pose, especially since I know they can be really hard to do. The only mild problem I have with this is I hate when thing like a hand are directly in front of the viewer. The reason for this is I know for myself at least, I would do it to sort of get around having to learn how arms looked in perspective because I could cover it up, and of course I didn't learn anything as a result. The second reason is that when you think about it, what is the chance in real life that you would find yourself looking completely and directly at someones hand? I just think that you would most likely be looking at their hand at some sort of angle no matter how small it be. Perhaps thats just a pet peeve I have though.
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    Thankies~!! X3
    Hmm, I suppose you're right about the shading~ Though having something like that would require something closer to cell-shading, and I absolutely suck at that XD though, I DID go back and blur some of the lines I thought were too sharp on the body.. maybe I shouldn't have done that |D
    I actually was going to try and put the arm in there, but then I realized that his massive hand blocked it out o.o;
    I also actually didn't really see that as a dynamic pose |D I just picked the easiest one I could think of for such a difficult looking character, though I suppose I could have done a bit better on at least the fingers, or maybe made the hand be tilting slightly~

    Thanks for the tut~ It may help me with my horribleness at highlights~ X3
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    Hey Rika~

    Just wanted to say that your artwork is awesome ^^
    I like to draw as well, but I'm not so good at it...I suck at drawing on the computer (No experience with photoshop) so I just use the good old pen and pencil.
    Anyways, keep up the good work!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ambri View Post
    Hey Rika~

    Just wanted to say that your artwork is awesome ^^
    I like to draw as well, but I'm not so good at it...I suck at drawing on the computer (No experience with photoshop) so I just use the good old pen and pencil.
    Anyways, keep up the good work!
    Thank you~!! X3 Well, no one gets good over night~ I'm STILL trying to get the hang of photoshop! |D

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    Yeah, I know getting good takes a while XD The problem is when I take big breaks from drawing stuff. Sometimes there's just loads of other stuff you need to do, and then going back to drawing can be hard :P
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    I know what ya mean |D I've been having that exact problem lately~
    Arg, stupid life! It gets in the way of so many things!! XD

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    Thanks for the Wolfmin! Why not post it here for all to see?
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    I was actually just going to~! :3



    I did a little bit of experimenting on the way I shaded the fur, but uh, I think I may need to use a bit more contrast next time |D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rika_of_Thunder View Post
    I was actually just going to~! :3



    I did a little bit of experimenting on the way I shaded the fur, but uh, I think I may need to use a bit more contrast next time |D
    The fur, yes I would say so. However I think your goal should be to get something like the red petal's shading, as they have the right amount of contrast but still contain your smooth transition style. The green parts are pretty good too, just a bit more contrast to match the petals in my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rika_of_Thunder View Post
    I was actually just going to~! :3



    I did a little bit of experimenting on the way I shaded the fur, but uh, I think I may need to use a bit more contrast next time |D
    Nice pic :3

    I like the shading on this one, the colours look nice! The white has less contrast, but it isn't bad or anything, just helps the red and green stand out more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -Raiga- View Post
    The fur, yes I would say so. However I think your goal should be to get something like the red petal's shading, as they have the right amount of contrast but still contain your smooth transition style. The green parts are pretty good too, just a bit more contrast to match the petals in my opinion.
    Okie~ I'll keep that in mind~ For some reason I always have a hard time shading white |D
    Quote Originally Posted by Ambri View Post
    Nice pic :3

    I like the shading on this one, the colours look nice! The white has less contrast, but it isn't bad or anything, just helps the red and green stand out more.
    Thanks~! :3
    Yeah, I still need to work on getting the right shades for shadows~

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    Alright, I just finished this request from a LONG time ago, and I discovered, hey! I CAN still use the burn and dodge tools every once in a while, I've just been using the wrong BRUSH!
    So, here's this little experiment. Also, I tried doing a less boring pose, but uh, I think I may want to use a reference next time...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rika_of_Thunder View Post
    Alright, I just finished this request from a LONG time ago, and I discovered, hey! I CAN still use the burn and dodge tools every once in a while, I've just been using the wrong BRUSH!
    So, here's this little experiment. Also, I tried doing a less boring pose, but uh, I think I may want to use a reference next time...
    With the reference thing, do you mean the front paw? Cause it looks okay to me. That sort of pose can be difficult to do.

    I just love how you do the fur around the edges <3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ambri View Post
    With the reference thing, do you mean the front paw? Cause it looks okay to me. That sort of pose can be difficult to do.

    I just love how you do the fur around the edges <3
    Actually, I thought the anatomy looked really wonky |D
    And thanks~! X3

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    New stuff yay~!!

    I just got the sudden urge to draw this XD Lopunny is one of the only Pokemon that I actually really REALLY want the shiny form of~ And I want it to be male XD

    This one's for a contest~ Hope I win~! X3

    This was a request from Rosemary, I thought it turned out nice~ :3

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    Kyaa! That first one with the Loppuny is adorable~ And that's a Vaporeon/Togekiss fusion, right? It's really well done.
    I myself really want a shiny Ho-oh, which I WILL soft reset for when I get Soul Silver XD

    And I hope you win the contest too ^_^
    ~Graoo!~



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ambri View Post
    Kyaa! That first one with the Loppuny is adorable~ And that's a Vaporeon/Togekiss fusion, right? It's really well done.
    I myself really want a shiny Ho-oh, which I WILL soft reset for when I get Soul Silver XD

    And I hope you win the contest too ^_^
    Yay~! Thank you~

    Lol, I tried SRing for a shiny drifloon, but I have no patience and a short attention span so I gave up at 64 XD

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