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    Okay, why the hell did they edit out one crossbone, but not the other? I'll never understand 4Kids.

    Here's something interesting I noticed. Remember that clown from "Outrageous Fortunes" back in Johto?


    Lookie here at the Surskit trainer:


    I also can't believe they left Izabe Island as Izabe Island.

    Overall, great episode. Harley has one of the best personalities ever established in the series, and the contest on the whole was probably the second-best so far, next to Lilycove for obvious reasons, heh...
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Big Al
    Of course Ash had to come to her frakking rescue. Heaven forbid May have to learn anything on her own or worse, lose to learn the lesson.
    To be fair though, she did lose a previous contest whilst using her Bulbasaur because of her over-confidence and not taking Bulbasaur's feelings into account. This time around, it was a perfect chance to redeem a past failure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shining Suikun

    Here's something interesting I noticed. Remember that clown from "Outrageous Fortunes" back in Johto?


    Lookie here at the Surskit trainer:
    Heh, who knows, maybe it's the same guy!

    Maybe he decided to travel to Hoenn and become a coordinator.

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    i liked this episode! it was so funny when Harley was humuliating(sp?) may XD but i wished Harley could win -.-
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    Harley is a jerk. I'd like to capture May also. Good episode. The theme song is worse than ever...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Geki
    The contest sucked, really badly.. Cacturne's dub voice kind of sucked, and I'm ****** since it's one of my favorite Pokemon. Harley is still gay!!

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    Am I the only one out there who felt SO bad for May when Harley revealed that story about her?
    That was really mean!I felt really bad for May.The judges should have not allowed that!I don't like Harly at all.He does'nt like May, and anyone who does'nt like May is a charcter I don't like

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    the episode ws good...... Harley is still..... Harley..... but his Cacturne did look strong........ even though i felt bad about what he did to May, i still laughed at the story.........xP

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gravy
    To be fair though, she did lose a previous contest whilst using her Bulbasaur because of her over-confidence and not taking Bulbasaur's feelings into account. This time around, it was a perfect chance to redeem a past failure.
    I know, but she should have done it herself. Then it would have been a learning experience. All she learned was to depend on Ash to help her in a jam. I mean, she changed her battle strategy when she realized Surskit was a quick opponent. Why couldn't she take 15 seconds for soul searching?

    I love the mind game. It sucks that you really can't do that on the games or even in Net battle.

    Altough it was dirty, Harley was a genius to use May's faults against her. If it wasn't for Ash, she would have likely been creamed. Maybe Harley should strangle Ash for butting in on his little scheme.

    EDIT: I don't know why but before this episode, I always pictured Cacturne with Star Scream's voice.

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    Team Rocket's involvement in the episode, regarding that Berry Salesman that they mentioned, It made me think that the salesman could be the SAME one who sold James the Magikarp, and traded the Weepinbell, and sold him that Hoppip disguised as a Chimecho. He might have said that "These berries are the greatest of all berries, and the PokéBlocks you can make with them are worth a fortune!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by YoshiAngemon
    Team Rocket's involvement in the episode, regarding that Berry Salesman that they mentioned, It made me think that the salesman could be the SAME one who sold James the Magikarp, and traded the Weepinbell, and sold him that Hoppip disguised as a Chimecho. He might have said that "These berries are the greatest of all berries, and the PokéBlocks you can make with them are worth a fortune!"
    You know, I actually picture that. I really can.

    So, Jessie intended to be a part of the contest but fell asleep trying to make berries.

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    Harley is gay love, plain and simple. He's about the biggest pokemo since Ash or James. I am looking forward to seeing more of him.
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    I enjoyed this episode.

    They should have given Cacturne some more airtime. :/

    Anyway, Harley was an interesting character. Very different than your average character, and the voice acting given to him was amazing. Very real-seeming. And he has an eccentric personality that makes you feel like this is one of those rare one-of-a-kind episodes.

    Rare when Ash and friends meet a one-episode character that they don't say goodbye to on nice terms in the end. I don't remember the last time someone tried to sabotage May in a Pokemon Contest (excluding Jessie, of course). And that little grudge book (or hitlist... O_o) of his makes him even more interesting.

    That flashback of May was great, and hearing Max's voice ringing through the building in a mocking tone was very funny.

    I'd give this episode an eight, but... I enjoyed it quite a bit... 9/10.

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    Watched it.

    O_O

    This is a first, keeping Izabe island as a name, and Harley, and a good voice.

    Not to mention Haruka was so cute as [insert younger age here].

    Meh 9/10

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    This is the first episode I've noticed that they mentioned the Drak type. Also its the first time I've seen Faint Attack in the anime.
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    Oh yeah, what's with all these names of cities, eh? In the beginning of the episode they called the place Izabe Island, and while they mispronounced it, I was pleased they kept it in. But then it was Pedikree Dog Chow? ...I mean Pedikree Pokemon Contest? o_o

    And at the end of the episode, they mentioned going to Sorosee or something. If that's Sootopolis they're talking about, then I'll be disappointed with the name change. Nintendo wouldn't allow that, though, would they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Pokemon Master
    And at the end of the episode, they mentioned going to Sorosee or something. If that's Sootopolis they're talking about, then I'll be disappointed with the name change. Nintendo wouldn't allow that, though, would they?
    They allowed Arbok to evolve into Seviper...

    Actually, I doubt they even monitor it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shining Suikun
    They allowed Arbok to evolve into Seviper...

    Actually, I doubt they even monitor it.
    They probably do. They (probably) forced 4Kids to remove the D/P Pokemon besides Munchlax out of the opening, after all.

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    I loved this episode. Like whoa. XD

    I was quite worried that the dubbers would turn Harley into a girl.. But ALAS! They didn't. It was kind of nice that Team Rocket didn't really interfere with what was going on. It made the episode more intense, IMO. I laughed at the tape recorder scene. Yes, I felt bad for May but it was hard not to laugh. Why was Max with Harley anyways? *raises eyebrow*. I LOVED Harley's voice. Cocky, yet flamboyant

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    I watched it this morning...I liked it. Harley is pretty cool, mean but cool. I may actually catch a Cacnea and start traning it. I'd like to see James with a Cacturne.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wobbanut
    You know, Harley's really a jerk for fooling May about surskit's abilities. At least May did bounce back, and she definitely put on an impressive show with Bulbasaur. I'm glad that she beat Harley in the end, and that combination of razor leaf and petal dance did look great.

    Overall, I would say that Harley's an interesting character. Apart from that one bit with surskit, he was fine. He made me laugh during his first scene when May didn't react the way he expected. The tape of Max talking about May's humiliating experience was funny too (and little May was so cute!! ). I'm not going to have a definite opinion on the guy until I see his later episodes, but so far I'm on the fence about him.

    Overall, 8/10.
    That is what makes harley such a good character. XD
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    I THINK this is the SECOND time we see Faint Attack in the anime. The first could've been that Johto episode with Sudowoodo(used faint attack on arbok). Also, is it just me or did Max get off the hook too easily(May forgave Max just like *snaps finger* that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emma Iveli
    I'm unsure if someone already put this down but 4kids has become very lintent with a certain issue... gay people. No really by keeping him a him and well... keeping Bon Clay (of One Piece) pretty much the same it's a little progess... >_< why is it this kind of progress I want my uncut anime! Well at least it's good in a way...

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    Harley's shown signs of being effeminite. Not being gay. James, however, is a completely different story. :|

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    Hah! Loved this episode. It's up there with the Lilycove Contest.
    Though surely the Lilycove mini-arc was better, the plot tangled with May's past and Harleys deceiving ways was extremely well done. Good Job Writers!

    What? They changed the Skull and Cross-bones in Harley's Hit-List book to a sad face? Wow...I mean I know a skull usually means death, but c'mon KidsWB, Americans *do* celebrate Halloween >.>

    In Canada, the skull was not changed [as it seems to have not been changed in every place this episode aired BUT KidsWB]. Speaking of this, in Canada, we still have Manene, Manyula, and Rukario in the opening O.o

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    Except that Octillery thing, but that's excusable.
    Yeah...about that.
    I don't believe Harley was implying that Tentacool evolves into Octillery. He called May Miss Tenta, which is short for Tentacool, but also is short for tentacle.
    Since Tentacool/cruel, and Octillery are the only Water types to posses tentacles and given that Octillery is not the most attractive Pokemon, it was more of an insult than anything.


    Anywhays, about the episode...yes.
    As I said, excellent episode where everything in the plot seemed to just fit so perfectly together. Harley's voice threw me off at first [I thought it would lower. Effeminate, but lower], it is indeed a good voice that suits his personality well, especially now thinking of the voices they could have given him *imagines Harley with Yami Yugi voice* ... *shudders*

    Harley himself is very impressive. He's such a breath of fresh air from the "Hi, I'm _____. What's your name? OMG! I lost to you, let's BFF FOREVUR! 8D" characters.
    He's malicious, conniving, scheming, catty < [had to put it for effeminate purposes], and all that jazz that makes up a good rival. And *finally* a rival who doesn't forget!
    "We'll meet again May. And when we do, I'll win! BFF!!! 8D" Yeah, right. Heard that too many times. Harley keeps his word ffs >.>
    Truly THE BEST Rival for a Main Character in the anime so far. Harley's bitching-ness <3

    The battling was very well done as well. I loved it at the end of the May/Harley battle when Bulbasaur was picking up the P'd-Off vibe May was giving and seemed to be just as brutal when executing her finals attacks on poor Cacturne. Not to mention I've loved the backround to the Razor Leaf/Petal Dance combo ever since Serebii.net supplied pictures for it several months ago.

    This contest also marks the beginning of not using /30 Point system they've used in previous Contests [outside of the Grand Festival of course].
    Which is a shame. I quite liked the point system. It gave you an idea of who would get into the second round and such...now they just do their appeal and hope for the best.

    Anywhays, excellent episode.
    A deserving 10/10. We'll be seeing you later, Harley ;D!
    [for those who go "HoMFG! SPOILER!", he's in the effing intro -.-o]
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