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    ^Yes that is right.

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    >.<' D'oh!
    I remember trying to get all the words of the theme song with my friends. Ugh, oh well.

    Then they repeat that phrase over and over again yet somehow it was cool.


    Personal question, did you ever experience a Pok&#233;mon-Digimon war when you were a kid, fighting over what was better?
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    I used to watch Digimon (I'll admit, despite the blatant similarities between it's "counterpart" Pokemon, I rather enjoyed it), and only stopped once they stopped airing it here in Canada... or YTV to be more specific.

    I actually popped back in to check on it once I discovered it was airing on Family Channel (considering what it is, and the content, this continues to baffle me). I haven't really watched it since then, but I'll say, I do like it.

    Granted, I forgot which season it was, but I was taken aback by the season where the human characters "transformed" into the respective Digimon. I still watched a few episodes of it, it was just... odd.

    edit: Just remembered something; at Anime North 2009, there was a point during the Pokemon photoshoot where we were... "crashed" by the Digimon cosplayers. Funny as hell!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ParaChomp View Post
    >.<' D'oh!
    I remember trying to get all the words of the theme song with my friends. Ugh, oh well.

    Then they repeat that phrase over and over again yet somehow it was cool.


    Personal question, did you ever experience a Pokémon-Digimon war when you were a kid, fighting over what was better?
    I loved that song... lol... And yes, I have experienced a Pokemon-Digimon war. Back in the 4th grade, I was the biggest fan of Digimon. Originally, I had loved Pokemon more but then I changed sides. My friend on the other hand stuck with Pokemon and we would spend whole recesses arguing over which one was better. To this day, I still think Digimon is better than Pokemon in regards to the television series but the Pokemon games are better than the Digimon games. What made Digimon so much better than Pokemon, I think, was that the characters really developed and matured. Take Rika (one of my favorites) for example. She started off as a bitter, cocky, and oftentimes mean person but as the series goes on, you can tell that she's becoming nicer. Her shirt with the heart on it changes also to symbolize it. They had real issues that many of us can relate to and some of the subject matter in the shows were darker than the happy go lucky stuff in Pokemon. The Digimon had personalities unlike Pokemon (especially that Pikachu. He had some semblance of a personality towards the earlier episodes but eventually, he just become a stuffed animal who sits on Ash's shoulder and the only thing Ash says to him is, "Right Pikachu?" or "Are you okay Pikachu?") and they interacted with their partners instead of keeping them locked up in little devices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobalt_Latios View Post
    I used to watch Digimon (I'll admit, despite the blatant similarities between it's "counterpart" Pokemon, I rather enjoyed it), and only stopped once they stopped airing it here in Canada... or YTV to be more specific.
    Sigh.

    And these "blatant similarities" are...?

    Quote Originally Posted by denizenofevil View Post
    To this day, I still think Digimon is better than Pokemon in regards to the television series but the Pokemon games are better than the Digimon games.
    They're two completely different show concepts developed in two completely different ways from two completely different types of source material. It's not quite apples and oranges, but it's pretty close.

    Quote Originally Posted by denizenofevil View Post
    What made Digimon so much better than Pokemon, I think, was that the characters really developed and matured.
    And that's what writers can do when they get to make up their own characters and develop them as they see fit in the context of a planned, finite narrative with a beginning and an end. None of those are the case with the Pokémon anime, which is limited by any number of factors surrounding the rest of the franchise.



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    I like Digimon better as an Anime than Pokemon. The first and second seasons of Digimon are the best. Fifth season is great. Third season was great until the human partner merged with their Digimon, then it lost me from liking it anymore. Season four is just awful. lol "humans are Digimon" so stupid. Pokemon are the better games, though. Of course it's obvious.

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    "Hey Digimon! Hey Digimon! Monster friends of the boys and girls! Hey Digimon! Hey Digimon! Champions of the digital world!"

    How does the verse go?
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    WHAT happens at the end of tamers!? he finds the portal and...NOTHING!
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    Quote Originally Posted by toge5556 View Post
    WHAT happens at the end of tamers!? he finds the portal and...NOTHING!
    What? Did you honestly not get that implication?

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    I enjoyed Tamers and Frontier the best. Savers/Digimon Data Squad was alright, but wasn't that good to me. It was like they were trying to bring the Digimon and partners together, but it wasn't as great as the old Adventure and 02, in my opinion.
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    I'm halfway through Tamers right now. At episode 26. So far it's been pretty good with the exception of the cards being completely useless outside of the evolution cards. I mean they could pretty much win by just evolving. Just saying the cards should be more useful than what they're making them out to be.

    and I really love Guilmon's Japanese voice compared to the English one.

    Anyways it still lives up to Adventure so far, but I guess that's because I haven't reached the point where everyone turns emo and they start copying NGE.
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    Only one character becomes crushingly depressed and she has a darn good reason for it.

    At no point does the series become anything close to Eva but for a few stylistic similarities.



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    I enjoyed Frontier as well, although the latter half did get a bit repetitive with the whole "Getting their butts kicked by the Royal Knights ad nauseum". And everyone but Takuya and Koji becoming pretty much useless during any fight. Animation was nice, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Electivirus View Post
    And everyone but Takuya and Koji becoming pretty much useless during any fight.
    Not one of the best ideas, perhaps, but from the standpoint of the storyboarders and animators, it was probably a necessary evil. The thing about an henshin-sequence action show with an ensemble cast, which all of the Digimon series are, is that you're damned if you do, damned if you don't. Have all of your characters "suit up" for battle and you're then tasked with making sure that every one of them is at least seen in the background engaging in combat, lest you be accused of giving certain characters no screen time. Elect to keep otherwise-capable characters out of the battle and you're accused of giving them nothing to do. Ergo, the compromise in this case was to come up with a method of powering up Takuya and Kouji that just happened to include a reasonably legitimate cause to keep the rest of the cast on the sidelines. By doing this, they ensured that they only had two hero characters (Takuya and Kouji's higher/highest forms) to keep track of during fight scenes and to whom screentime needed to be doled out and that there was at least an established reason, even if it wasn't the best reason, why the rest of the cast would watch from the sidelines.

    Again, it's not the greatest of solutions, but sometimes that's the compromise that has to be made with a large, combat-capable cast and a very finite number of episodes.



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    I can certainly see where you're coming from, but that doesn't make it any less frustrating, IMO. Although to be fair, the others did help out on a couple of occasions, even if it was to no avail.

    The ending of Frontier, saccharine as it may have been, was still pretty touching. The final battle was quite awesome as well. It was a good choice to use higher quality animation for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCVM22 View Post
    Only one character becomes crushingly depressed and she has a darn good reason for it.

    At no point does the series become anything close to Eva but for a few stylistic similarities.
    Eh from what I remember of the dub. The mind rape and crap did come off as Evangelion-esque. Didn't help that Takato's dub voice as also whiny and emo sounding.

    His Japanese voice doesn't come off that way at all which is probably why I'm liking Tamers better in Japanese thus far. Doesn't give me the feeling that I'm watching Digimon for emos the way the dub did. Just my opinion though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BCVM22 View Post
    Not that it detracted from the series at all, but you do realize that they started with three Tamers and finished with eight (ten if you include Makoto and Ai), right? How does that constitute a "small and manageable cast"?
    well, those could all count as secondary characters. Also, just because certain characters became Tamers doesn't exactly mean they were suddenly turned into a main (Hirokazu and Kenta are a damn good indication of that). While some characters did grow to have more important roles than others, the majority of the development and focus was still on the three main Tamers and their partners. I saw an entry on TVTropes that mentioned this, but I can't seem to find it now.

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    ...Am I the only one who loved Savers? (Season 5)

    I have to admit, it did start out kinda like the first season of code lyoko, where a digimon appears, they do something about it, the show ended and the same thing happened the next episode, but once you get past that little slump, it becomes increasingly more intresting. The whole government conspiracy thing reminded me of that dark feel I got from tamers, which is why I loved it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buizelster View Post
    Eh from what I remember of the dub. The mind rape and crap did come off as Evangelion-esque. Didn't help that Takato's dub voice as also whiny and emo sounding.
    Apparently, the same person voices Agumon in Data Squad. I find his voice worked for Takato but Agumon, sort of (it takes time to get use to a new actor).
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    Okay finishing Tamers I'd say as far as the Japanese version goes that I did like it as much as Adventure, but I still don't think it's the best of the seasons thus far. Mainly because over 80% of the entire cast was annoying to the point that I just wanted to see all of them punched in the face. The only exceptions were of course the four main teams of Takato, Ruki, Jenrya, and Ryo whom I felt were the good characters, and side characters like Yamaki, Beezlebumon, Leomon, and Culumon who were actually interesting... Ah what the heck Lopmon was interesting too. It just sucked that she got stuck with someone like Shuichan.

    Ah well. On to Frontier and I can't wait.
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    Frontier is the worst season of them all. For starters the kids are the digimon and they don't have there own. They do not have a good plot. I don't like the people. Only one girl i mean come on how sexist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PiplupMan View Post
    Frontier is the worst season of them all.
    Per... you.

    Quote Originally Posted by PiplupMan View Post
    For starters the kids are the digimon and they don't have there own.
    How dare a franchise try something different! Lord knows it can't be a good Digimon series if the goggle boy doesn't have a 3-foot-tall lizard of some sort (orange, blue or red, take your pick) following him around.

    Quote Originally Posted by PiplupMan View Post
    They do not have a good plot.
    According to whom?

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    I don't like the people.
    Solid support for your opinion there.

    Quote Originally Posted by PiplupMan View Post
    Only one girl i mean come on how sexist.
    It was a five-person cast and Digimon, at its core, is a boy-aimed franchise. Not every roster is going to have the male/female ratio that the Adventures and Tamers had.

    Frontier was guilty of nothing save for trying a different dynamic between the human characters and the Digimon. It retained Adventure's initial concept of kids brought to the Digital World by unknown means for unknown reasons and prior to Savers, it held the distinction of the smallest cast of core kids by the end of the series. Like Adventure, it had a far-reaching plot that grew and transformed exponentially from start to finish and it did all of this anywhere from passably to well. Yet despite all this, it's continually shat upon simply because it didn't have partner Digimon to flit around the screen. Does that really seem like a worthwhile criticism given everything else?
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    Finnish Digimon is the only one worth watching.

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    Hey... something im wondering about to potentially combat all the digimon-is-a-pokemon-ripoff thing... Were the digimon V-pets out before the pokemon franchise was? Im almost positive other virtual pets were, but was digimon?

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    Pok&#233;mon preceded the Digimon virtual pets by about a year.

    But that's okay because you shouldn't need to "combat" that steaming pile of argument by this day and age. Anyone who still tries to make the case that one "copied" the other or vice versa is either still in elementary school or just a moron (that's right, I said it) because the franchises are about as different as can possibly be save for the superficial shared elements of lots 'o monsters.
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