The Official WWE Thread, Brother!

[charizardfan]

This is the same company that had Vince fight "God" on pay-per-view, Big Bossman drag around a casket with Big Show's dead father inside, Trish strip to her underwear and bark like a dog, Triple H have sex with a mannequin, and exploited the death of Eddie Guerrero for months to add cheap heat to storylines (and that's only WWE, not even getting into the stuff that's happened in the non-WWE careers of Foley and Heyman). The Jerry Lawler stuff was pretty standard for pro wrestling in general, and I'm sure they wouldn't have gone through with the whole thing if Jerry wasn't alright with it.

To be honest, I found the whole segment pretty funny in that "so bad, it's hilarious" kind of way. Even moreso considering that whatever heat they managed to add to Punk was gone by the time of the main event.

[Platinum fan.]

I don't think 'bad' is the best word to describe it. It was kinda distasteful. I did enjoy the promo a lot, but I feel like it could have been done without utilizing Jerry's heart attack. I think I didn't like that because it just turned something that was really serious for what it was into another typical angle for Punk to get cheap heel heat, but thats just me. Also Heyman faking that heart attack shouldn't have been done, period. Otherwise it was a decent promo

I pretty much agree with this. WWE have done distasteful things like this in the past, but to be honest I'm surprised it got by the PG rating. A man almost died and they make fun of it to get cheap heel heat on Punk and the real kicker is Punk won't lose that belt till Royal Rumble so you got a long wait to see him get his. I guess WWE forgot a former star of their's (Umaga) died from a heart attack. I understand they wanted heel heat on Punk, but Heyman's fake heart attack was pushing it. I actually couldn't believe what I had just watched at first.

As far as everything about the show, same as always. Big Show and Sheamus is still the main thing I'm looking forward to at Survivor Series. I'm actually tired of CM Punk as champ even before his little stunt last night. The downside of long title reigns like this is you can get sick of the champ. This is how I got sick of John Cena. Miz as a face should be interesting. At least it's new.

[Laser Shuckle]

This is the same company that had Vince fight "God" on pay-per-view, Big Bossman drag around a casket with Big Show's dead father inside, Trish strip to her underwear and bark like a dog, Triple H have sex with a mannequin, and exploited the death of Eddie Guerrero for months to add cheap heat to storylines (and that's only WWE, not even getting into the stuff that's happened in the non-WWE careers of Foley and Heyman). The Jerry Lawler stuff was pretty standard for pro wrestling in general, and I'm sure they wouldn't have gone through with the whole thing if Jerry wasn't alright with it.

Didn't you just go on and on about how WWE is different today than back then and we shouldn't go off comparing the attitude era with PG? lol.

I would have preferred Vince vs God. That actually sounds interesting. playing off a WWE Legend's recent death just to put heat on Punk comes across as bad taste. I know they have done things like this in the past but that doesn't make it any less distasteful. Not to mention they went ahead with this when he returned.

To be honest, I found the whole segment pretty funny in that "so bad, it's hilarious" kind of way. Even moreso considering that whatever heat they managed to add to Punk was gone by the time of the main event.

I noticed that too haha.

I pretty much agree with this. WWE have done distasteful things like this in the past, but to be honest I'm surprised it got by the PG rating.

That's the thing, WWE seems more TV-Y7 - G than PG. I'm not surprised at all it made the rating because you can get away with a lot more under the PG rating than WWE has. Take for example all the swearing during Rock's return and subsequent episodes that were all still rated PG. It is after all only one rung lower than TV-14.

[charizardfan]

Didn't you just go on and on about how WWE is different today than back then and we shouldn't go off comparing the attitude era with PG? lol.

You mean the discussion about how we shouldn't compare Attitude era business (which has nothing to do with content) to today? Would I really need to explain the difference?

My post is entirely concerned with why people are even offended given the terrible things WWE has done in the past. Even if you want to make the point that it was Attitude - which is valid, considering that was an era where they were going for shock value - remember that even in the TV-PG days of WWF 1996, you had things like Brian Pillman pulling a gun on Steve Austin.

I'm not defending the segment at all, it was hilariously bad and a bit hypocritical given what happened with AW a while ago, but the outrage is confusing. We've sat through so much worse, and given Lawler's own history, he was most likely okay with it. And he's the one who had the heart attack.

[Armando Payne]

^Is it bad that I laughed at that segment?

[Laser Shuckle]

You mean the discussion about how we shouldn't compare Attitude era business (which has nothing to do with content) to today? Would I really need to explain the difference?

Nope I was talking about the content, If you remember the whole AW discussion...

My post is entirely concerned with why people are even offended given the terrible things WWE has done in the past. Even if you want to make the point that it was Attitude - which is valid, considering that was an era where they were going for shock value - remember that even in the TV-PG days of WWF 1996, you had things like Brian Pillman pulling a gun on Steve Austin.

I'm not defending the segment at all, it was hilariously bad and a bit hypocritical given what happened with AW a while ago, but the outrage is confusing. We've sat through so much worse, and given Lawler's own history, he was most likely okay with it. And he's the one who had the heart attack.

I wasn't offended at all but it makes sense to me when they use a guy's death to push an angle, especially when it doesn't advance anything as you pointed out.

[flamebeam]

I'm not defending the segment at all, it was hilariously bad and a bit hypocritical given what happened with AW a while ago, but the outrage is confusing

yah i remember aw. but i remember a lot of people were saying that Linda's campaign was a factor. and now that that's over, the leash could be loosened a bit. also - since you like to point out things that have been happening in wwe for the longest time - you should know by now that superstars that get paid a lot and bring in a lot of money get away with more stuff than people like aw, meaning the wwe is gonna be hypocritical because they think with their wallets and not their hearts

[-Raiga-]

yah i remember aw. but i remember a lot of people were saying that Linda's campaign was a factor. and now that that's over, the leash could be loosened a bit. also - since you like to point out things that have been happening in wwe for the longest time - you should know by now that superstars that get paid a lot and bring in a lot of money get away with more stuff than people like aw, meaning the wwe is gonna be hypocritical because they think with their wallets and not their hearts

...If we're talking about stuff people should know by now, you should know that the WWE can't be treated as one big supergroup of people.

The difference between john cena and AW is that no one person in the company would think firing john cena would be a good idea, HOWEVER, in AW's case all it takes is one writer, or sponser, to not like AW for him to be fired. It's not really money related, because most people working there know someone like just gabriel can go from bringing in 500 buck in merchandise to $5,000 in a day, i.e. daniel bryan or ryback.

[Laser Shuckle]

Rumor is Swagger is going to be repackaged.

[flamebeam]

Rumor is Swagger is going to be repackaged.

All-American American to, uhh... communist spy???

[Armando Payne]

^Nay, he's gonna be Olav from Over Like Olav.

[Taichi]

So...if anybody caught Survivor Series, Dean Ambrose debuted.

[REL720]

Finally Dean Ambrose and Seth Rollins are officially going to be on the roster. My only hope is that they are not fed to Ryback as jobbers.

[Platinum fan.]

I didn't see Survivor Series but I heard Punk retained. Big shock there. How did he weasel out of a defeat this time? Also has anyone watched Smackdown lately? I haven't because I've been running errands on Fridays. Has anything good happened? I know it's nowhere near as good or hyped as it use to be but still...

[Sinnoh Ash]

I haven't watched WWE in like 3 months because I don't have cable anymore. Also, since WWE has gotten strict with people putting the entire shows on YouTube I can't watch it there either, but I try to keep up with it by reading the news.
Anyways, hello everyone!

[charizardfan]

I didn't see Survivor Series but I heard Punk retained. Big shock there. How did he weasel out of a defeat this time?

Ryback laid out Cena. Dean Ambrose, Seth Rollins, and Roman Reigns (?) showed up out of nowhere and attacked Ryback. Punk then went in and stole the pin on Cena during the confusion.

Also has anyone watched Smackdown lately? I haven't because I've been running errands on Fridays. Has anything good happened? I know it's nowhere near as good or hyped as it use to be but still...

Just from reading the results, nothing has really happened. Watch it if you're interested in Big Show's WHC reign or whatever Orton and Sheamus are doing, but otherwise it's been completely skippable. The Supershow, plus three-hours, have really hurt SmackDown. There's no reason to watch it since all the big things happen on Raw, and it lacks an exclusive roster of its own.

[Taichi]

Ryback laid out Cena. Dean Ambrose, Seth Rollins, and Roman Reigns (?) showed up out of nowhere and attacked Ryback. Punk then went in and stole the pin on Cena during the confusion.
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Roman Reigns is part of the famous Samoan family. He's Rosey's brother and the Rock's Cousin, Uso's Cousin, Rikishi's, etc.

[Jb]

Big Show is the WHC?

[Taichi]

Big Show is the WHC?

Yes, and believe it or not, both his matches with Sheamus have been pretty good so far.

[Platinum fan.]

Ryback laid out Cena. Dean Ambrose, Seth Rollins, and Roman Reigns (?) showed up out of nowhere and attacked Ryback. Punk then went in and stole the pin on Cena during the confusion.


Just from reading the results, nothing has really happened. Watch it if you're interested in Big Show's WHC reign or whatever Orton and Sheamus are doing, but otherwise it's been completely skippable. The Supershow, plus three-hours, have really hurt SmackDown. There's no reason to watch it since all the big things happen on Raw, and it lacks an exclusive roster of its own.

I know. It's just I use to really love Smackdown and there was a time I loved it over RAW and considered it the A show. That was like in 2002. I miss those days. I guess my inner WWE fan is just sad seeing what has become of ole Smackdown. Today it's a joke, but I do love that they have JBL back on commentary. He's like the only reason I would watch.