This is pretty much how I felt when reading this chapter.
What the **** is Kubo thinking?!
This better turn out like Byakuya's death, rather than Starrk or Harribel's (yes I know she's still alive).
Curse you Trollkubo! D:<
Originally Posted by Golde
Spoiler:- manga:
F*ck this chapter. F*ck it.
Like...Unohana was being so awesome. And her bankai looks awesome. But they didn't explain it, and now everything sucks. And she's dead. And she can't be dead. And everything sucks.
If they didn't kill Byakuya, they certainly can't kill Unohana.
I totally agree with all you said...
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What's funny about that Zam, is that was my exact reaction. Like, perfectly. In fact, I posted way more initially, then finished the chapter, deleted it all, and ranted. Bunch of BS up in here.
But I think I understand now
Spoiler:- What I understand:
Kenpachi kept seeing himself die. I bet her bankai involves illusions, and by convincing him he's dying over and over, she can bring out his true potential, since blah blah, he no longer fears death.
And the illusion can work both ways, i.e., tricking Kenpachi AND p*ssing us all off (her dying). And since she "died", he killed the one person that could stop him (he thinks), and Kenpachi is now God2.0, the murderous, omnipotent, emotionless killing machine.
And she IS the Squad 4 Captain after all. It'd be pretty messed up if she couldn't even take a blade through the heart. I mean, come on.
Kenpachi kept seeing himself die. I bet her bankai involves illusions, and by convincing him he's dying over and over, she can bring out his true potential, since blah blah, he no longer fears death.
And the illusion can work both ways, i.e., tricking Kenpachi AND p*ssing us all off (her dying). And since she "died", he killed the one person that could stop him (he thinks), and Kenpachi is now God2.0, the murderous, omnipotent, emotionless killing machine.
And she IS the Squad 4 Captain after all. It'd be pretty messed up if she couldn't even take a blade through the heart. I mean, come on.
wishful thinking
Spoiler:
I don't know. I pretty sure he was actually dying, but she just had the ability to revive him.
If Kubo can bring back Byakuya, then he has to bring back Unohana...
Spoiler:- another thought:
If Unohana does survive, what if Zaraki x Unohana becomes the first canon couple in the series?
Watch, I bet Kubo would do that just to mess with us... D:
Kubo: IchiRukia, lol nope. Zarahana. trololol.
Then Kyoraku's polygamy...
Idk, maybe Nanao and Lisa see him more as a father figure.
Stupid internet has corrupted me...
Last edited by Zameric; 16th February 2013 at 1:21 AM.
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Kenpachi kept seeing himself die. I bet her bankai involves illusions, and by convincing him he's dying over and over, she can bring out his true potential, since blah blah, he no longer fears death.
And the illusion can work both ways, i.e., tricking Kenpachi AND p*ssing us all off (her dying). And since she "died", he killed the one person that could stop him (he thinks), and Kenpachi is now God2.0, the murderous, omnipotent, emotionless killing machine.
And she IS the Squad 4 Captain after all. It'd be pretty messed up if she couldn't even take a blade through the heart. I mean, come on.
wishful thinking
I wish
Didn't she say that she really killed and revive him over and over again, though? Like in the last chapter or something.
At least the club has been busy while I've blipped off the radar for a moment.
Originally Posted by Golde
Spoiler:- manga:
Like...Unohana was being so awesome. And her bankai looks awesome. But they didn't explain it, and now everything sucks. And she's dead. And she can't be dead. And everything sucks.
These chapters are getting more engaging, but I'm liking them less.
I think they will, in some way shape or form; even if it is (though I hope not) in databooks or something.
I think I agree with you there, too.
Originally Posted by PKMN Trainer Rex
After about 2 years of being a hermit, I'm starting to have a life again. And I kind of don't like it.
What's a "life"? Can I buy one on ebay?
Anyway this weeks manga.
Originally Posted by arceus03
Spoiler:
... And that opened another plothole, really. If she really loved fighting so that she learned how to heal just so she could continue fighting, why did she stop fighting after Zaraki came? Pffft.
Spoiler:
Good point; something must have happened to her that gave such a dramatic shift to her character, and I don't think it would be something like Kenpachi.
Originally Posted by Golde
Spoiler:- What I understand:
Kenpachi kept seeing himself die. I bet her bankai involves illusions, and by convincing him he's dying over and over, she can bring out his true potential, since blah blah, he no longer fears death.
And the illusion can work both ways, i.e., tricking Kenpachi AND p*ssing us all off (her dying). And since she "died", he killed the one person that could stop him (he thinks), and Kenpachi is now God2.0, the murderous, omnipotent, emotionless killing machine.
And she IS the Squad 4 Captain after all. It'd be pretty messed up if she couldn't even take a blade through the heart. I mean, come on.
wishful thinking
Spoiler:
That sounds possible; a large chunk of this battle seems like a bit of illusion with how she kept healing him after killing him. And an illusion ability zanpakutou suits a bloodthirsty warrior, too.
Originally Posted by Zameric
Spoiler:- another thought:
If Unohana does survive, what if Zaraki x Unohana becomes the first canon couple in the series?
Watch, I bet Kubo would do that just to mess with us... D:
That is too hilarious for a proper response.
YOU JUST LOST THE GAME!
Click HERE to be rickrolled... c'mon, you know you want to.
Spoiler:- I HAVE DEFIED ALL MATHS AND LOGIC!:
A = B
A^2 = AB
A^2 - B^2 = AB - B^2
(A + B)(A - B) = B(A - B)
(A + B) = B
A + B = B
B + B = B
2B = B 2 = 1
So, Unohana dies..
Reasonable reason, yet debatable.
And here comes his Zampakuto, it was obvious Tite would throw that.
Ichigo failed. OH NOEZ!
Back to the basics? Please tell me it's not just me, a session with Urahra/Yoruichi perhaps?
What do you mean leaks, Zam?
'What I wanted to protect.. . was you, Ichigo.' -Tensa Zangetsu
Oh man looks like he's going to finally learn his zanpakutou's name. I don't think this means bankai though, does it?
Haha wow, I'm surprised he failed that! Though kind of glad to see he isn't just sailing through things like always... but this means his quincy roots will be explained. Eh.
Originally Posted by Zameric
Spoiler:- manga 527 leak:
Now that I've learned that websites like Mangastream are actually releasing leaks, I'll refer to them as such.
Source?
Originally Posted by CyberBlaziken
Manga came out 5 days ago..
Yeah we're not so good with this kind of stuff, are we?
YOU JUST LOST THE GAME!
Click HERE to be rickrolled... c'mon, you know you want to.
Spoiler:- I HAVE DEFIED ALL MATHS AND LOGIC!:
A = B
A^2 = AB
A^2 - B^2 = AB - B^2
(A + B)(A - B) = B(A - B)
(A + B) = B
A + B = B
B + B = B
2B = B 2 = 1
Yeah we're not so good with this kind of stuff, are we?
Viz and my friend are my source; I bought a year subscription to WSJ on Vizmanga.com.
It said that the official translations would come out on the same day as the Japanese version.
But I noticed that they were a week behind Mangastream.
I didn't understand until a friend told me that MS and similar websites get leaks, like Serebii with Corocoro.
Edit (2013-2-25):
After reading Viz's official translation, I wanted to share a part with you guys.
Spoiler:
On the last page, Ōetsu's script seems more clear in the Viz translation.
"You're not there yet, Ichigo.
You don't understand what it means...
that you have been able to come this far without having an Asauchi.
You gotta go back, yo. Back to your roots.
You gotta learn about your past.
Even if knowing your roots means you can never return."
Mangastream's translation seems to allude that Ichigo just needs to relearn some skills.
But Viz's translation plays more to his murky origins.
I wasn't sure if I should spoiler this or not, since most people might not have access to this until it comes out in volume format...
Last edited by Zameric; 26th February 2013 at 12:39 AM.
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You have to go to this place called "The Outside". It rains sometimes and you have to pay for almost everything, but there are cute girls there.
Late manga stuff.
Spoiler:
Aw, Unohana dies. It's a shame that we didn't get to see what her bankai actually did.
(in the voice of Comichead) OH SNAP! Kenpachi just learned his Muthaf@$&'n Zan's name.
Poor Ichigo, he failed.
"Back to basics", does that mean Isshin is going to step in?
New manga stuff:
Not surprised, at all.
Last edited by PKMN Trainer Rex; 27th February 2013 at 8:52 PM.
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Viz and my friend are my source; I bought a year subscription to WSJ on Vizmanga.com.
It said that the official translations would come out on the same day as the Japanese version.
But I noticed that they were a week behind Mangastream.
I didn't understand until a friend told me that MS and similar websites get leaks, like Serebii with Corocoro.
Huh, alright (ah well, I'm not bother
Originally Posted by PKMN Trainer Rex
You have to go to this place called "The Outside". It rains sometimes and you have to pay for almost everything, but there are cute girls there.
*Shudders* doesn't sounds like a fun place at all...
Spoiler:
Glad we're getting to see Isshin again! Man I missed the guy.
YOU JUST LOST THE GAME!
Click HERE to be rickrolled... c'mon, you know you want to.
Spoiler:- I HAVE DEFIED ALL MATHS AND LOGIC!:
A = B
A^2 = AB
A^2 - B^2 = AB - B^2
(A + B)(A - B) = B(A - B)
(A + B) = B
A + B = B
B + B = B
2B = B 2 = 1
Hmm, I can't fully understand Spanish (and I'm too lazy to properly translate it), but that looks like what you said. ;p
Spoiler:- Manga 528:
Well, there are no real big differences between the MS and Viz translations.
I think that was a good change of pace from the last few chapters.
There have been a few hiccups, but Kubo's still doing good with this arc, imo.
We finally get final confirmation of two big points...
Isshin was actually a Captain at sometime before. But still no mention of which Squad...
And Masaki was a Quincy, making Ichigo half Quincy.
I wonder if that's part of why Ichigo took in so much of Rukia's spiritual energy.
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Finally! Squad 10 - as some people predicted; and Isshin Shiba. I really like that; especially since a lot of people said it towards the start, kinda forgot about it, and here it is!
Anyway; I like how Ouetsu knows allllll of the asauchi. That was quite nice, I think, and definitely gives him a spot on Squad 0.
That's... Really all I wanted to comment on, I guess?
YOU JUST LOST THE GAME!
Click HERE to be rickrolled... c'mon, you know you want to.
Spoiler:- I HAVE DEFIED ALL MATHS AND LOGIC!:
A = B
A^2 = AB
A^2 - B^2 = AB - B^2
(A + B)(A - B) = B(A - B)
(A + B) = B
A + B = B
B + B = B
2B = B 2 = 1
So, with Isshin being revealed as part of the Shiba Clan (and captain of Squad 10, which is totally legit), my one question is why hasn't he been mentioned yet? Or was he the one that was being referred to when Kukaku and Ganju were talking about their older brother within the squads? And when will they fill in why Rangiku and Hitsugaya both knew Isshin and yet didn't make a notice of it or recollect anything when they camped out in Ichigo's house?
I guess that makes Ouetsu the original Squad 0 member, right? After all, he made the asauchi that preceded the Zanpakuto of the other members. But what he said about nobody being able to release their Zanpakuto without using one of his Asauchi first, does that mean that a) Ichigo was an anomaly or b) that Ichigo never actually released his true Zanpakuto form?
And iirc, there was a 100 year gap between the Visored incident and present time, which means that if Isshin was captain at this point where was he for the ~80 years after the incident?
Toriko is a pretty fun read, its kind of like Fist of the North Star mixed with Fighting Foodons. But here is not the thread to talk about it.
Manga
Spoiler:
Captain of Squad 10 AND head of the Shiba clan, awesome. Can't wait for the reunion.
So Renji knew that Ichigo would fail and get kicked out. That bas*tard, well he probably didn't know that Ichigo would be kicked out. Its for the best though, we get Isshin's much awaited backstory.
Originally Posted by I like Pokemon (...)
*Shudders* doesn't sounds like a fun place at all...
Be forewarned youngling, one day you will be forced into this "outside" and face it ALONE!
Originally Posted by arceus03
EVERYTHING IS GOING ACCORDING TO PLAN
Oh well. It's gotten boring again. I miss Unohana already T_T
What plan? There was a plan? Are you Aizen, planning something devious under everyone's nose?
Not really, we're getting some good tidbits of information. You just miss Unohana that much.
Originally Posted by I like Pokemon (...)
Spoiler:
Finally! Squad 10 - as some people predicted; and Isshin Shiba. I really like that; especially since a lot of people said it towards the start, kinda forgot about it, and here it is!
Spoiler:
Oh yeah, I remember those from back in the day. But the ones I heard about had him being apart of some special group that wasn't the Gotei 13, Kido corps or even squad zero.
Originally Posted by Soroft
Spoiler:- Manga 529:
So, with Isshin being revealed as part of the Shiba Clan (and captain of Squad 10, which is totally legit), my one question is why hasn't he been mentioned yet? Or was he the one that was being referred to when Kukaku and Ganju were talking about their older brother within the squads? And when will they fill in why Rangiku and Hitsugaya both knew Isshin and yet didn't make a notice of it or recollect anything when they camped out in Ichigo's house?
Spoiler:
Wasn't that during the Bounto arc, which is just filler? I might be wrong, but I'm too lazy to look it up.
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