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    Oh Arceus, this movie was bad. This has mostly to do with Arceus as a character itself. First off, the voice... the voice!! It's so... bad. I'd rather have him not have a voice at all. Then the writing of its dialogue, with repeating the same line like three times over in the movie, it using "take this" and "alright". Really, come on? We're dealing with a supposedly godlike creature here.
    Secondly, the legends say it is supposed to have created the world and the dimensions of time, space and reverse. Yet it has to offer a part of its very own life force to recover a patch of land. Urgh... how's that work?
    Third, the supposedly godlike creature, with enough intelligence to use human speech, yet is so blinded by rage that it feels the need to destroy life on the entire planet for the betrayal by one man. No... just no.
    Fourth, lol at GOD having its memory re-written at the end of the movie. Lol.

    More lol for everyone in the past calling Pokémon 'magical creatures'. I mean, Pokémon are a normal thing in that world, why aren't they just called animals or something. Although this could maybe be an issue with the translating, I don't know what the original Japanese script uses.

    That scene in the beginning when Pikachu and Piplup almost get sucked into another dimension and then get saved by Dialga. Ash going "cool" instead of freaking out over the entire lake turning into a water tornado and the sky transforming into a black hole, with the rest of his friends just smiling beside him. Yeah, totally natural reaction there. Also funny how they don't even bother trying to run from the 2nd time it happens, minutes after the first time. They just stand there.

    The only thing I liked about this movie was the evil guy with the red hair (did he even have a name?)
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    This movie would have been a lot better IMO if Arceus just used its judgment (and actually say the words) to obliterate michina from existence moments before dialga sent the crew back in time.

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    Seeing this thread, with nothing better to do, I've sat myself down to watch the movie.
    I'm 26 minutes in, where the ruin guardians explain the universes, and I swear to Arceus - if Ash and c/o repeat any more words back to them, I'm going to flipping tear my hair out! I don't remember the Pokémon movies being this horribly contrived. Give me back Spell of the Unown!

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    Geez, I don't get why people hate this movie so much.....Personaliy I think this movie was great, it's probably the best out of the DP movies. I liked how Ash and co. were having fun swimming at the lake. The battle between Ash, Dawn and the twins was cool, and so was the extended version "Stand Up(Battle cry)".

    It's cool how this movie went straight to the action instead of wasting too much time introducing new characters. Geez, Arceus was really angry and wanted to destroy the (Pokémon)world. Even with Dialga, Palkia and Giratina defending, it wasn't enough to stop Arceus....since he was much stronger than them. But I have to admit....the battle was darn intense. The whole reason of Arceus wanting to destroy the Pokéworld was the Jewel of Life, which Marcus didn't gave him back.

    Ash, Brock, Dawn and Sheena traveling to the past to make things right was interesting. They meet up with Marcus found out that it's actually Damos who's gonna use him for betraying Arceus. Everything was working in Damos' favor since it appears that Arceus is gonna die and Damos is gonna live, but Ash comes to stop him just in time. I liked how Ash was forcefully trying to take the Jewel of Life from Damos, it would've even better if he punched in Damos' face to get the Jewel.
    I liked how Ash was trying to get the Jewel of life when it's falling down, there were some good acrobats he showed there.(which he rarely shows)
    Then there's the fading scenes, if it isn't for Ash(mainly him), Marcus and Sheena, the silver water would've killed Arceus and they won't be alive anymore. LOL at Brock's reaction when Sheena was hugging Kevin at the end.

    Overall, great movie. The action sequences were cool and the process of trying to actually KILL Arceus was dark....Well, really dark for Pokémon.

    The only thing I didn't like in this movie was Arceus' voice, he souned like someone with a bad cold.

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    One of the biggest weaknesses of this movie is the title character itself. First off, why is Arceus harmed by Pikachu? I know the plates that resisted electricity were gone, but I think the anime has shown alternatives to blocking lightning. Can't it just use the mind plate and telekinetically hold back the lightning? I think an abra already did that. He's a creator deity. Why didn't he just telekinetically kill all the humans?

    Point two, did common sense go out the window in the whole prison scene? The guards didn't take their bags, and Ash and co. had their Pokemon, but didn't bother use them to blow the doors sky high? Can't you make Damos explain while on the way to stopping Marcus? It would shorten the movie.

    Point three, time doesn't work that way. Ash and co. should have been fading in the past whether Arceus died or not. Since the jewel was returned in the past, the gang should not have been there. When they returned to the future, Arceus is still on its rampage. You cannot say that the events changed in the past still led to the rampage. Time doesn't work that way. If anything, the last two movies would have been retconned out of continuity because the past was so radically altered. Don't tell me that the pokemon world has different time rules. What time travel rules were in that one episode in AG still apply everywhere else in the series.

    Point four, what's the point of having Team Rocket?

    Point the fifth, Sheena didn't catch Marcus basically admitting to being evil? He asked her if silver water was used. Why did you not catch that?

    Point six, the voice acting of Arceus.

    Point seven, mind control? Really?
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    "Everyone creates the thing they dread. Men of peace create engines of war. Invaders create Avengers. People create... smaller people? Er... children! I lost the word there. Children. Designed to supplant them. To help them end."

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    But this is the traditional royal Canterlot voice! It is tradition to speak, using the Royal "we", and to use THIS MUCH VOLUME WHEN ADDRESSING OUR SUBJECTS!!

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    Arceus almost dying inside that cement liquid made me lol. For such a fearsome Pokemon, it wasn't as threatening as it should've been...

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    Dialga's time travel bit was fun but I didn't think Arceus was portrayed well enough since he seemed weak for a Pokemon god & poor Heatran. It barely did anything. 6/10

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    I love this movie. Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, Heatran and Arceus in one movie equals awesome movie. Fun seeing the Johto starters there. Rating:10/10

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    I liked how this film's setting was inspired by Greece and Damos was a cool and memorable film protagonist. Dialga, Palkia and Giratina clashing was cool as well, plus I liked how Ash went back in time thanks to Dialga.

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    Arceus was magnificent for the most part, although I did kind of laugh when he was stuck in the goo simply because it seemed silly.

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    I actually quite enjoyed the movie but what killed it for me was the fact that you needed a jewel or plates to keep a god alive. I feel like Arceus should be immortal in the anime if not I think the plot should've been better. I think it would've been so much better if this movie was set up like Pokémon 4ever where Arceus is captured, becomes evil and the gang turns Arceus back to normal. That would've been awesome to see. Though it was still kind of epic with Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina. Though I felt Arceus had a better presence in Hoopa and the Clash of Ages albeit a minor one.

    I enjoyed every Pokémon movie but there are a couple movies that have certain problems that make me enjoy them less than other Pokémon movies. Arceus and the Jewel of Life was one of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheJLeeTeam View Post
    Though I felt Arceus had a better presence in Hoopa and the Clash of Ages albeit a minor one.
    But all he got was a cameo there...? Arceus had an actual impact in this movie, and his history was fascinating.

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    I liked the movie, but I guess I was expecting Arceus to sound more Godlike. I think the time travel plot and the villain were halfway boring. The action was great and all the attacks looked strong and beautiful thankfully. Also, Brock got like a minute of being awesome when he saved Sheena and Damos, without them everything would have been ruined. The animation of course was fantastic and TR was kind of just there.

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