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    Quote Originally Posted by Cerberus View Post
    Haha, silverwater apparently, I was like 'what'.

    The drowning in concrete thing was dark.
    Upon thinking on this, Marcus was 'effin lazy. Think about it: he was under the impression that without the Jewel of Life, the whole area would return to a wasteland. What he failed to realize, was that you have to work to maintain things. By Arceus, he fails.

    Also, I know for a fact that despite the Celebi movie having a character be from the past, and the 8th movie dealing with a medieval past, this is the first time the main characters went to the past to fix things.

    Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but was Damos voiced by Dan Green? It sure sounded like it. On that note, who voiced Sheena, Kevin and Marcus?

    Also, am I the only one who thought Heatran was... small? It's a legendary, and it's not very big. I was thinking it would at least by Torterra's size.

    Team Rocket were, once again, reduced to comic relief. Although, the funniest part for them was when they were inside the ruins of the kitchen of the castle. Simply knowing what it actually was was the icing on the cake there.

    Overall, the conclusion to the trilogy wasn't bad. Although, I'm somewhat miffed that Ash didn't mention that they had been to Alamos, and the Glacier (considering he mentioned that he had been in Alamos back in movie 11).

    So, with that said, I rather enjoyed it.

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    I would have been just fine had Arceus not spoken at all. I think the fact that he spoke took away from the fact that he was supposed to be consumed by this blinding rage. I personally think it would have attested a lot more to his show of character had he been completely silent. Let's ignore the fact that his voice was terrible.

    It really sucks that the 'evil' guy died in the end. He, like several other Pokemon villains, was only doing what he thought was in the best interest of everyone. Yes, he was cruel and deceitful, but though he wasn't willing to take the fall for his actions, thus making him a coward, I believe his intentions were good. He didn't seem to like Pokemon much, though. I would've rather he gotten a chance to at least redeem himself through hard work and effort.

    The whole time-traveling thing REALLY didn't make much sense. On one-hand, Deimos lived where-as before, he died. The entire timeline should've changed. The shrine should've been in a state of better repair, as Arceus didn't destroy it. Finally, how would Sheena and Kevin have actually met Ash and the group had Arceus not attacked in the first place. All the events the past movies shouldn't have happened. But oh well, time travel's a ***** to work out properly.

    Palkia owned the battle. His force field was pretty awesome. Giratina's Shadow Force got dodged, and I laughed. I'm still quite confused at how Arceus managed to absorb Time Roar and Spacial Rend when BOTH moves are Dragon-type, and Arceus didn't have the Dragon Plate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bliksem View Post
    I would have been just fine had Arceus not spoken at all. I think the fact that he spoke took away from the fact that he was supposed to be consumed by this blinding rage. I personally think it would have attested a lot more to his show of character had he been completely silent. Let's ignore the fact that his voice was terrible.
    True, but let's not forget that Arceus had no facial expression. At least Dialga, Palkia and Giratina moved their eyes and mouths, Arceus was completely stoic (or whatever the proper term is called).

    You know what got on my nerves more than this: Arceus is supposed to be the pnultimate Pokemon, correct? He's the god of all Pokemon, and the creator of their world. In the 10th movie, both Dialga and Palkia are named "deitys", correct? Was Arceus ever mentioned to be this, once? I don't think. Giratina, I'm fine with. It's more of the lord of the "underworld", so to speak, while Arceus, is a god, and he isn't referred to as such, which was inconsistent (and of course, Ash recognizing Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina, while completely forgetting that every area Kevin and Sheena had visited, guess what, they were there as well. He could have at least said, oh yeah, I remember that event. I mean, he mentioned having been there in movie 11, why not here?)

    It really sucks that the 'evil' guy died in the end. He, like several other Pokemon villains, was only doing what he thought was in the best interest of everyone. Yes, he was cruel and deceitful, but though he wasn't willing to take the fall for his actions, thus making him a coward, I believe his intentions were good. He didn't seem to like Pokemon much, though. I would've rather he gotten a chance to at least redeem himself through hard work and effort.
    Namely, this is the first almost on-screen death of a character. Lawrence III, Iron Masked Marauder, Annie+Oakley, Butler (different case, but still), Phantom, Alberto, all survived.

    Also, he was probably one of the better movie villains. He was rather clever in deceiving Arceus (and Sheena, though it wasn't completely her fault, she's just a bad judge of character. Not to mention when he asks about that Silver... stuff, she's a bit dumbfounded), but too stubborn (and a bit lazy) to realize that, "oh, the Jewel of Life isn't meant as a long term thing, it's merely meant to get us started, and we have to work to maintain things". That's in response to the bold. He likes others doing the work, not so much himself.

    Also, him not liking Pokemon was ironic (a really bad pun, I know), as he had a Heatran (wth??), and a Bronzong. Although, I do love how they turn on him in the end. Makes me think they didn't like doing his bidding all that much.

    Also of note: this is the first time Ash and co. have been behind prison bars in an actual dungeon (there are a couple of none movie examples, but... let's not get technical here).

    The whole time-traveling thing REALLY didn't make much sense.
    Does it ever?

    On one-hand, Deimos lived where-as before, he died. The entire timeline should've changed. The shrine should've been in a state of better repair, as Arceus didn't destroy it.
    Meh, maybe they never got around to it, or they were just a bit preoccupied with the surrounding area. I'm not gonna go into detail on this one.

    Finally, how would Sheena and Kevin have actually met Ash and the group had Arceus not attacked in the first place. All the events the past movies shouldn't have happened. But oh well, time travel's a ***** to work out properly.
    Not to mention, Dialga sent them back in time. A time god, don't forget. He can do whatever he wants with the timeline if he so chooses.

    Palkia owned the battle. His force field was pretty awesome. Giratina's Shadow Force got dodged, and I laughed. I'm still quite confused at how Arceus managed to absorb Time Roar and Spacial Rend when BOTH moves are Dragon-type, and Arceus didn't have the Dragon Plate.
    Even worse? Sure, Pikachu is able to harm Arceus (still debating this one), but Palkia is part water type (remember, no Water plate), and didn't bother using any water based moves. Yeah, I laughed a bit at Giratina's Shadow Force missing, but Arceus did have the Spooky Plate (or, whatever it's called).

    Also, can anyone think of why Arceus's memory resembles that of a computer shifting through files? I mean, Giratina remembering Ash was easy, but Arceus? It looked like a computer speeding through tons of files while going to remember Ash. Sure, he did, and that seemed to fix things. Then he restores the surrounding area (he's a god, I let that one slide), and it looks like friggin' bits of data!! Granted, I'm guessing it's because the animators probably weren't completely sure of what to use to represent "Arceus's power", but still, it makes it look like somekind of living computer.

    Finally, Arceus's voice. After a while, I think it served it nicely. Considering it's status of Alpha God, I'm gonna let slide the fact that it can't talk telepathically because of it being a Normal type. On the subject of Arceus, Judgement looked awesome (and not surprisingly, very similar to the Tales of version of said attack; raining down bolts of energy on the surrounding area), and what was that powdery attack it used a few times? Maybe it was like that blob move that Giratina used a few times; it doesn't have a name.

    Eh, good movie, Ash is now engraved into a tablet depicting the saving of Arceus. Even if he doesn't succeed at being a Pokemon Master, he's got enough credit through having been part of a legend (the Orange Island one doesn't count; that was mere coincidence, especially considering how weirdly written that one was).

    Bonus points for anyone who noticed that bridge with Chikorita, Cyndaquil and Totodile's picture engraved into the inside of it. It's during the "fixing" sequence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobalt_Latios View Post
    Ash is now engraved into a tablet depicting the saving of Arceus. Even if he doesn't succeed at being a Pokemon Master, he's got enough credit through having been part of a legend (the Orange Island one doesn't count; that was mere coincidence, especially considering how weirdly written that one was).
    Well Dawn, Piplup & Pikachu can also be seen in that tablet as well including Sheena & Marcus (i think). The only one missing there is Brock from the looks of it.
    But i do agree that this is the second instant that a legend pointing towards Ash was used in a movie ("The Thunder Creature & its Master" in this movie & the "World would turn to Ash" thing in the second movie). It would have been better if they told more about that legend in this movie.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bliksem View Post
    Giratina's Shadow Force got dodged, and I laughed. I'm still quite confused at how Arceus managed to absorb Time Roar and Spacial Rend when BOTH moves are Dragon-type, and Arceus didn't have the Dragon Plate.
    If i am right Palkia or Dialga never used there signature attacks against Arceus. The only attacks which i remember them using against Arceus are Hyper Beam by Dialga, Aura Sphere & that Space Trapping move by Palkia & Giratina used that Blue & Orange coloured flame attacks whose name i don't know.
    As, for Arceus using Draco plate to counter Dragon type moves it would have been a mistake because if we consider the type match-up Dragon type moves are strong against Dragon type pokemon.
    As for the forms Arceus used in the movie would be Poison or Ghost & Fire (by my understanding).
    As for Giratina's Shadow Force missing Arceus, it could easily be explained as Arcues without using any plates would be a Normal type pokemon & Ghost type attacks don't work on them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cobalt_Latios View Post
    Even worse? Sure, Pikachu is able to harm Arceus (still debating this one),
    Well i think the reason Arceus was damaged because of Pikachu's or other pokemon's electric attack was not only because Arceus was missing the Electric plate but rather because he was also missing his Ground, Grass & Dragon plates which serve as a counter to electric attacks.
    And similarly, i think one of the reasons why the "Silver Water" was able have some effect on Arceus was also because he was missing the counters for Water type moves.
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    Maybe someday we'll go back to having a Pokemon movie who's star can't talk at all.
    Honk if you prefer the Japanese version to the English dub!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cartoonami View Post
    Maybe someday we'll go back to having a Pokemon movie who's star can't talk at all.
    As a reference, here is a list of pokemon which were able to speak in a movie till now (other than our regular TR's Meowth),

    Movie 01 - Mewtwo
    Movie 02 - Lugia, Slowking
    Movie 03 - Illusion Entei
    Movie 04 - None of the pokemon
    Movie 05 - None of the pokemon
    Movie 06 - Jirachi
    Movie 07 - None of the pokemon
    Movie 08 - Lucario
    Movie 09 - Technically none of the pokemon unless you count Manaphy's attempts at speaking.
    Movie 10 - Darkrai
    Movie 11 - Shaymin
    Movie 12 - Arceus

    So based on this we had only four movies (three if we don't count Manaphy here) till now in a total of 12 movies which didn't have a pokemon which could speak. So, your statement here is a bit odd i think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucario At Service View Post
    Well Dawn, Piplup & Pikachu can also be seen in that tablet as well including Sheena & Marcus (i think). The only one missing there is Brock from the looks of it.
    You mean Deimos (don't worry, I keep thinking Marcus too, a much easier name... Arceus dammit!!!). I think Brock is there... I'd have to double check.

    But i do agree that this is the second instant that a legend pointing towards Ash was used in a movie ("The Thunder Creature & its Master" in this movie & the "World would turn to Ash" thing in the second movie). It would have been better if they told more about that legend in this movie.
    As I mentioned, I find the 2nd movie more "coincidental". You could interpret "the world shall to ash", as literally "the world is burned to ashes". But... we have a character named Ash, so you could debate it.

    Holy!!!! I just realized something:

    When Sheena and Kevin meet Ash an co, they mention the whole Thunder creature and his Master legend, right? Now... considering timetravel (maybe ignoring the tablet as well... who knows), it's easy to think they may be talking about Ash even though they aren't aware of it. So, if they're referring to the tablet even before the timetravel...

    Yes, I know it's confusing, blame Dialga; he's the one calling the shots (quite literally too).

    This whole thing reminds me of that movie TimeLine. I mean, everything almost fits. Except no one stays in the past.

    Well i think the reason Arceus was damaged because of Pikachu's or other pokemon's electric attack was not only because Arceus was missing the Electric plate but rather because he was also missing his Ground, Grass & Dragon plates which serve as a counter to electric attacks.
    No, I'm aware of that. Hell, Kevin himself states that Arceus is missing the Thunder Plate and so would be weak to it.

    And similarly, i think one of the reasons why the "Silver Water" was able have some effect on Arceus was also because he was missing the counters for Water type moves.
    It was quick dry cement. That'll have an effect whether they were weak to it or not. Considering he was being zapped by electric attacks, he wasn't exactly in a state to get himself out of it even if he actually wanted to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucario At Service View Post
    As a reference, here is a list of pokemon which were able to speak in a movie till now (other than our regular TR's Meowth),

    Movie 01 - Mewtwo
    Movie 02 - Lugia, Slowking
    Movie 03 - Illusion Entei
    Movie 04 - None of the pokemon
    Movie 05 - None of the pokemon
    Movie 06 - Jirachi
    Movie 07 - None of the pokemon
    Movie 08 - Lucario
    Movie 09 - Technically none of the pokemon unless you count Manaphy's attempts at speaking.
    Movie 10 - Darkrai
    Movie 11 - Shaymin
    Movie 12 - Arceus

    So based on this we had only four movies (three if we don't count Manaphy here) till now in a total of 12 movies which didn't have a pokemon which could speak. So, your statement here is a bit odd i think.

    Relatively speaking, we haven't had a movie without a talking Pokemon in 5 years, so it just feels like it's been a while.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobalt_Latios View Post
    True, but let's not forget that Arceus had no facial expression. At least Dialga, Palkia and Giratina moved their eyes and mouths, Arceus was completely stoic (or whatever the proper term is called).
    Even those, it's possible to derive some feeling by body language. Even without a mouth, it'd be possible, probably through stance if Arceus wouldn't be capable of any sound at all.

    You know what got on my nerves more than this: Arceus is supposed to be the pnultimate Pokemon, correct? He's the god of all Pokemon, and the creator of their world. In the 10th movie, both Dialga and Palkia are named "deitys", correct? Was Arceus ever mentioned to be this, once? I don't think. Giratina, I'm fine with. It's more of the lord of the "underworld", so to speak, while Arceus, is a god, and he isn't referred to as such, which was inconsistent (and of course, Ash recognizing Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina, while completely forgetting that every area Kevin and Sheena had visited, guess what, they were there as well. He could have at least said, oh yeah, I remember that event. I mean, he mentioned having been there in movie 11, why not here?)
    So, Ash has met the God of the universe, the gods of space, time, and the lord of the underworld. Soon, he'll be involved with the deities of will, emotion and knowledge... seriously, by the end of this show, if there is no reason for him meeting these pokemon, I'm gonna be upset.

    Namely, this is the first almost on-screen death of a character. Lawrence III, Iron Masked Marauder, Annie+Oakley, Butler (different case, but still), Phantom, Alberto, all survived.
    It probably would have been too much effort to determine how his life would've affected the timeline. I still think he could've redeemed himself... eventually. Despite his flaws, he still had good, if fearful, intentions. No one deserves to die like he did.

    Also, he was probably one of the better movie villains. He was rather clever in deceiving Arceus (and Sheena, though it wasn't completely her fault, she's just a bad judge of character. Not to mention when he asks about that Silver... stuff, she's a bit dumbfounded), but too stubborn (and a bit lazy) to realize that, "oh, the Jewel of Life isn't meant as a long term thing, it's merely meant to get us started, and we have to work to maintain things". That's in response to the bold. He likes others doing the work, not so much himself.
    I agree.

    Even worse? Sure, Pikachu is able to harm Arceus (still debating this one), but Palkia is part water type (remember, no Water plate), and didn't bother using any water based moves. Yeah, I laughed a bit at Giratina's Shadow Force missing, but Arceus did have the Spooky Plate (or, whatever it's called).
    I don't think Pikachu injured him, so much as stunned him with the realization that he could be damaged. But for all his offensive power, he really wasn't that strong defensively. I do wish Nintendo would update his ability in-game, cause I think that'd be awesome. Multi-type: The user changes type and form to match the plate it holds, becoming immune to that type.

    Also, can anyone think of why Arceus's memory resembles that of a computer shifting through files? I mean, Giratina remembering Ash was easy, but Arceus? It looked like a computer speeding through tons of files while going to remember Ash. Sure, he did, and that seemed to fix things. Then he restores the surrounding area (he's a god, I let that one slide), and it looks like friggin' bits of data!! Granted, I'm guessing it's because the animators probably weren't completely sure of what to use to represent "Arceus's power", but still, it makes it look like somekind of living computer.
    They probably should've expanded on it more. I wouldn't have minded Arceus being portrayed as a calculating machine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bliksem View Post
    Even those, it's possible to derive some feeling by body language. Even without a mouth, it'd be possible, probably through stance if Arceus wouldn't be capable of any sound at all.
    He had "glowing red eyes" when he was pissed off, so that qualifies. Not in the best of ways, but it does work.

    On that note, I was certain Arceus had a mouth. Or... does it?

    It probably would have been too much effort to determine how his life would've affected the timeline. I still think he could've redeemed himself... eventually. Despite his flaws, he still had good, if fearful, intentions. No one deserves to die like he did.
    Wrong place, at the wrong time. He didn't deserve to die, true, but he did. Considering how things worked in the "medieval" ages, stuff like that happens rather often.

    I don't think Pikachu injured him, so much as stunned him with the realization that he could be damaged. But for all his offensive power, he really wasn't that strong defensively. I do wish Nintendo would update his ability in-game, cause I think that'd be awesome. Multi-type: The user changes type and form to match the plate it holds, becoming immune to that type.
    It doesn't sound like a bad idea, but in the movie, he had 11 plates on him. He could easily shift between any of them when needed. You can't do that in-game (he would then become the cheapest Pokemon in existence).

    They probably should've expanded on it more. I wouldn't have minded Arceus being portrayed as a calculating machine.
    Meh, it's a Pokemon movie, they can do just about anything they want. I was just a bit weirded by the use of "data" to represent it's "memory". While it works, it just feels out of place.

    Although, I did enjoy an interesting parallel they did for it to another fictional "god" (very minor, but I still find it interesting).

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    arceus does have a mouth actually it just hardly moves it if you look at the line and arceus with splash plate is the coolest looking arceus hands down

    nuff said

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    Quote Originally Posted by No. 1 Machop Fan View Post
    I didn't see the movie because I don't have Pay TV, but did Jessie's Wobbuffet appear at all? I don't remember seeing it in Serebii's episode pics...
    Yeah only just for the obligatory "WOOOOBBUFEEEEET".

    I missed the Friday premier because I had to go out, I missed the Saturday re-run because I was still asleep. I finally got to watch it last night (Tuesday).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobalt_Latios View Post
    You mean Deimos (don't worry, I keep thinking Marcus too, a much easier name... Arceus dammit!!!). I think Brock is there... I'd have to double check.
    Oh yeah, i forgot to mention Damos was also present in that tablet including Ash, Dawn & Marcus. Here is a pic of that,
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    On the left,
    Marcus (behind him some other pokemons are there), Dawn (Piplup in between Dawn & Ash), Ash & Pikachu below him.
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    Pichu, Damos, Sheena & behind her Chikorita.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cobalt_Latios View Post
    As I mentioned, I find the 2nd movie more "coincidental". You could interpret "the world shall to ash", as literally "the world is burned to ashes". But... we have a character named Ash, so you could debate it.
    Well we just have to know what was the legend in the original japanese version of the movie, that should clear up a lot of things regarding that legend.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bliksem View Post
    It really sucks that the 'evil' guy died in the end. He, like several other Pokemon villains, was only doing what he thought was in the best interest of everyone. Yes, he was cruel and deceitful, but though he wasn't willing to take the fall for his actions, thus making him a coward, I believe his intentions were good. He didn't seem to like Pokemon much, though. I would've rather he gotten a chance to at least redeem himself through hard work and effort.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cobalt_Latios View Post
    Namely, this is the first almost on-screen death of a character. Lawrence III, Iron Masked Marauder, Annie+Oakley, Butler (different case, but still), Phantom, Alberto, all survived.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bliksem View Post
    It probably would have been too much effort to determine how his life would've affected the timeline. I still think he could've redeemed himself... eventually. Despite his flaws, he still had good, if fearful, intentions. No one deserves to die like he did.
    Who died in this movie, as much as i remember no one died.
    And if you are talking about Marcus he is shown alive at the end, didn't you people notice him during the movie ending song working along with Damos. Here is a pic of it,
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    Ah, so he did redeem himself! That's wonderful!

    Of course, what about his heirs? Marcus died in the original timeline, or so Sheena lead us to believe.

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    Arecus was not the First pokemon it was MEW. Mew was introduce in 1995 as the first pokemon. Then in 2009 Game Freak said Arecus was the first, That doesn't make since, They have messed the story line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cocoajones View Post
    Arecus was not the First pokemon it was MEW. Mew was introduce in 1995 as the first pokemon. Then in 2009 Game Freak said Arecus was the first, That doesn't make since, They have messed the story line.
    Dude, all these Pokemon always existed.

    The went back thousands of years in the past and there were Hoenn and Sinnoh Pokemon in ancient times.

    Pokemon aren't "discovered" in the anime, they were always there.

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    I watch it mostly by luck i found it on *BLEEP* anyway this was one of my favorite Sinnoh movies I really like how they reference to the other movies in the beginning and in the credits i wonder why though could this be the last movie to take place in sinnoh!?! Right I'll stop before I get ahead of myself
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    I enjoyed the time travel idea, something new. I agree with everyone who said they didn't like Arceus' voice, strange choice, all in all however I liked it, although could've tied up a few more loose ends towards the end
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    This movie was SO THRILLING!

    And to think of the injustice caused by Marcus for some reason...

    Also, Arceus could have had a deeper voice and I thought its name was pronounced Ar-See-us instead of Ar-Kee-us!

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    the movie was awesome,
    i still believe the original movies occured after the timetravel because arceus was still attacking,so nothing in the present changed,only thing changed was arceus getting the jewel of life
    i believe in the plate,thats brock,not marcus

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    Did anyone notice that the boy with blue hair looked like Jake from Ape Escape 1?

    (if you have played the game that is.)


    picture thanks to Rika_of_thunder

    Man1337ric thanks to BynineB
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    Watching it now, it's quite nice.

    Justice is such an odd change.
    Also I can't take Arceus seriously. He sounds ridiculous to me.


    Am I the only one unable to tell just what moves the dragons & Arceus were using? Like the thing with all the rings and purple and wind they use, or Palkia's pink beam thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowyarticuno View Post
    Justice is such an odd change.
    Also I can't take Arceus seriously. He sounds ridiculous to me.
    Indeed, using "justice" is kinda strange, but I do think that it makes a little bit more sense overall, the way the sentences are phrased.

    At first, I wasn't sure of Arceus' voice, but I don't mind it now, especially when he's calm. It's kind of an older voice.

    But the voice that got me laughing was Damos. There's no doubt whose voicing him.

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    Well I just finished watching the movie and here is a list of the things I liked and hated about the movie

    Things I liked:
    -The animation and artwork were top notch.
    -The Ash and Dawn double battle.
    -Brock saying to Sheena "Fate would have you stroke me with that beautiful hand of yours" LOL He's now a borderline rapist.
    -Cynthia vs Palmer. I only wish I could have seen that battle in full.
    -Piplup trying to shake tails with Pichu and getting shocked in the process. Haha it just wanted to fit in.
    -The Johto starters and Notch Eared Pichu making an appearence.

    Things I hated:
    -Arceus's Voice. *cringe*
    -Team Rocket like always...
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