The Fleeing Tower of Sunyshore! (634)

[dman_dustin]

. Not only that, but I find it funny that for a city with an electric type gym that they don't seem to have any kind of backup power system. The Pokemon Center scene though made me think back to Veridian City power outage. Whatever happened to the days of the backup Pika power formed by Pikachu doing the konga line in a circle.

There was backup system, but for some reason it failed, (likely because they were too dependent on the tower).

At least that's what someone said when they translating it, I'm not too sure on the accuracy, but regardless they did have a back up system, given the fact the power came on in the Pokemon Center despite the tower still being flown in.

[shac]

Wow, Grotle's evolution looked amazing. Different from most evolutions. Is it just me or does Torterra look a little lighter then other Torterras?

I've only seen part of it but it actually looks like a good episode. Glad to see Ash with another fully evolved Pokémon.

Ash's Torterra looked lighter to me as well, and smaller compared to other terras.

The evolution part was very nicely done. It was nice to see an evolution not coming under the result of stress for a change. The background music, terra's first cry - everything was perfectly done. But other than that just another episode!!

[Umbilical Noose]

There was backup system, but for some reason it failed, (likely because they were too dependent on the tower).

At least that's what someone said when they translating it, I'm not too sure on the accuracy, but regardless they did have a back up system, given the fact the power came on in the Pokemon Center despite the tower still being flown in.

Then why did the power went out when the tower was still on ground before TR moved it?

It wasn't the best of evolutions but still better than Swinub evolution maybe because that was rushed. That made me think if they knew that they would stretch Sinnoh so long then why did they rushed Mamoswine evolution?

I still hold the question- what was the format of the battle, was it 4 on 4 or 3 on 3 ?

[Ash-kid]

I still hold the question- what was the format of the battle, was it 4 on 4 or 3 on 3 ?

It's really strange why the referee forgot to say that. I guess it was 4 vs 4, but no one mentioned what is the format. In the previous gym battles the referees always said this, so it's probably a mistake of the storyboard editor (Masamitsu Hidaka).

[Hellwarden]

People are honestly *****ING that Ash's got a Torterra?


What.....the.....hell?


People are always complaining that this series never breaks out of it's formula, and now that's it does, you wanna *****? I'm ecstatic that Ash got a Torterra. It's new move, leaf storm, looks ****ing awesome.


But....I guess that's just me.

[dman_dustin]

Then why did the power went out when the tower was still on ground before TR moved it?

Even though it wasn't mentioned (I think, since it wouldn't really matter in terms that I doubt Volkner or whoever cared exactly why the power went out), the power went out likely because they had to disconnect the tower from the "platform" (or whatever distributes the electricity to the town from the tower) before they could get ready to move it.

Volkner I do believe said that there was something wrong the tower, which is why the power went out, but as I said I don't think the reason was detailed.

I still hold the question- what was the format of the battle, was it 4 on 4 or 3 on 3 ?

According to one translator it was a 3 on 3, but I would hold off until a better source comes along (so about two weeks), or someone who knows Japanese could come on this thread and tell us specifically.
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You know I've given it some thought, I don't think Grotle could've evolved any other way. By that I mean, this episode was set up to delay the gym battle with the slight wreckage of the poorly built gym and they decided to throw Grotle's evolution in the mix probably as to not disappoint fans that the gym got postponed.

However if they were planning on evolving Grotle soon, then they probably couldn't make an episode devoted to it, since they had to reach Sunyshore City soon, so another episode would delay Sunyshore, then there would've been a "boring" episode about postponing the gym battle even further. So that's probably why they threw Grotle's evolution into the episode.

As for a specific reason for Grotle to evolve instead of evolving Team Rocket, unless Grotle evolved even more randomly against Luxray, the plot wouldn't have worked out to give Grotle a subplot (if it did said subplot would've started in a previous episode).

The only other possible Grotle evolution in this episode, is if it evolved because it uses it's energy ball power up, however the implications of that may be too great.

Sure there's the whole save Ash thing but that turned out unlikely since Ash was falling towards the water.

There's also Leaf Storm to consider, if the writers wanted Torterra to use leaf storm straight off the bat, evolving when Ash tells Grotle to use razor leaf and then performing leaf storm would've been the only "EPIC" way to depict it. Since evolving earlier and then using leaf storm later on would be a bit anticlimactic.

[HoennMaster]

That made me think if they knew that they would stretch Sinnoh so long then why did they rushed Mamoswine evolution?

They wanted to give Mamoswine a whole lot of development. Look at it, Mamoaswine started listening n DP119, and yet in DP146 is lost control and ignored Dawn.

[Blaziryu]

This episode was alright. I'm mad that Ash's gym was both disrupt & postpone b/c of TR's meddling. They should seriously get catches by the authorities & rot in jail for life or get kill in a shooting spree. They're just annoying now. Anyway, I was shocked when Flint fell from the rocket. I was like "OH SH*T!!" If that was real life, he would definitely be dead. Grotle's evolution wasn't all that. I was expecting more.

[hOuOugIa]

Am I the only one that thinks Grotle should stay in Grotle? Torterra looked unmatching with Ash, probably Paul showcased it first.... I was also hoping to see Grotle defeating Honchkrow after all these hard works...

[STICKTOPIA]

Am I the only one that thinks Grotle should stay in Grotle? Torterra looked unmatching with Ash, probably Paul showcased it first.... I was also hoping to see Grotle defeating Honchkrow after all these hard works...

yea i think it's only u. It started battling Honchkrow as a Turtwig and it matters as long as it beats Honchkrow. Besides, how would Honchkrow look losing to a grotle?

[NES]

Wow, Grotle's evolution looked amazing. Different from most evolutions. Is it just me or does Torterra look a little lighter then other Torterras?
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Actually yeah, yeah it does! They are doing it to differentiate it from Paul's Torterra maybe? Much as how they made his Infernape shorter than Flint's.

[V Faction]

Just could be an animation thing. If you watch the opening, Torterra looks HUGE compard to the rest of the Pokemon. So it'll probably vary.

I believe the more pertinent differences will come form the attacks used and style of battle they take on. I get the feeling Ash's Torterra will be different from the Av-a-rage Torterra once all is said and done.

[dman_dustin]

Just could be an animation thing. If you watch the opening, Torterra looks HUGE compard to the rest of the Pokemon. So it'll probably vary.

It is the animation because even in this episode it's hard to tell how big Torterra is. Sometimes it looks small enough that there wouldn't really be a rock climb issue, and then in other shots, it's gigantic.

So yeah, how big Torterra really is may have to wait for future episodes with Torterra in them.

Also I loved how happy Pikachu seemed when Grotle evolved. It's kind of funny that Pikachu doesn't want to evolve, but has no problem with being happy when Ash's other Pokemon evolve. Kind of makes you wonder.

[Ash-kid]

Am I the only one that thinks Grotle should stay in Grotle? Torterra looked unmatching with Ash, probably Paul showcased it first.... I was also hoping to see Grotle defeating Honchkrow after all these hard works...

I can agree with you, Grotle was able to beat TR in this episode without evolving, seems like the writers were rushed and didn't know how to make it evolve. Although Torterra is stronger, but Paul's Torterra definitely makes Ash's Torterra's evolution to look less good.

[Umbilical Noose]

Also I loved how happy Pikachu seemed when Grotle evolved. It's kind of funny that Pikachu doesn't want to evolve, but has no problem with being happy when Ash's other Pokemon evolve. Kind of makes you wonder.

Raichu looks were better than Pikachu. It was Raichu was saying "That huge monster will surely **** me in the gym battle".

I didn't liked the animation of this episode. Luxray looked too shabby compared to the Luxray from Luxray's Vision.

[Locormus]

Am I the only one that thinks Grotle should stay in Grotle? Torterra looked unmatching with Ash, probably Paul showcased it first.... I was also hoping to see Grotle defeating Honchkrow after all these hard works...

Evolution doesn't mean it's a different pokemon... It still has the same 'soul', eventhough I don't like talking in those terms. I liked Grotle a lot, but Torterra needs some getting used to. I've used one in my ingame team like forever and I've grown accustomed to it, I'm sure everyone will grow to like Ash's, since it's been developed well.

I get the feeling Ash's Torterra will be different from the Av-a-rage Torterra once all is said and done.

Oh Dear... Ash's Tort is different you say? Lets see what Sceptile Lover has to say about that...

Raichu looks were better than Pikachu. It was Raichu was saying "That huge monster will surely **** me in the gym battle"..

Oh my... So... Torterra is definatly different, but I don't see/hear Raichu complaining! xD

I didn't liked the animation of this episode. Luxray looked too shabby compared to the Luxray from Luxray's Vision.

It was a Kinoshita episode, Luxray is a hard pokemon to draw, it was jumping all over the place, which means you should have at least a couple of extra frames to make things look good. Add all these factors to eachother, and there's your answer as to why it looked shabby..

I for one, am a bit dissappointed by Torterra's quick work of Team Rocket. I actually hoped that it would show some more skill, but alas, I have to keep my hopes up for the Bertha episode.

[KGB13]

GAAAH! Damn TR for interrupting the battle, now we have to wait till the Gym is fixed. Ash getting a Torterra is awesome and really shows that he's growing as a trainer. It's Leaf Storm attack looked cool and powerful, can't wait to see what it will do in the league. Great episode.

[john A.K.A. young LJ]

i cant even imagine if the sunyshore tower was gone forever

[Hikari Paradise]

This was a cool episode indeed. I'm glad we got to hear Zero's theme again and torterra was the icing on the cake.

[the1stpkmnfan]

Was pretty hard for me to watch while trying not to fall asleep haha. But the battle at the begiining was looking insane till the power turned off.

The whole part of the tower fleeing the area, being it's power supply was also interesting. As it was able to move that easily. Plus, I laughed how Flint and Brock tried to keep the power going, and Nurse Joy encouraged Brock to keep riding the exercise for her. xD

At the tower, glad to see in the neck of time that Grotle evolved! And Leaf Storm was super amazing. And the landing of the tower was awesome, just like landing a plane.

With the battle on hold, due to the conditions of the gym from Team Rocket's cause, looks like were on our way to the Grand Festival now at the Lake Resort!