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    Xenoblade Chronicles is also a port as opposed to a new game.

    Sell your existing 3DS to fund the new one if you need to play Xenoblade that badly (which you do), or worst-case scenario, wait for the actual successor to be released and buy it for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hydrohs View Post
    I think a lot of it is the gif, but I haven't seen the original video.
    Yeah, i also think that gif is from the stream, which wasn't in that great of quality anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by AuraChannelerChris View Post
    Keywords: some sort.
    And "some sort" is also another way of saying "like". The N3DS is not some sort of Expansion Pack. It's an entirely new handheld altogether.

    Quote Originally Posted by Excitable Boy View Post
    Xenoblade Chronicles is also a port as opposed to a new game.

    Sell your existing 3DS to fund the new one if you need to play Xenoblade that badly (which you do), or worst-case scenario, wait for the actual successor to be released and buy it for that.
    Yes, Xenoblade 3DS is a downport that requires an entirely new handheld. Pretty sure we all knew that like a few hours after the Direct.
    I'm gonna be trading in my OG 3DS for a N3DSXL. Don't care for Xenoblade, so that's not my reason for upgrading. I just think the OG 3DS's screen is utter shet. Maybe I'll finally be able to finish Kid Icarus Uprising now that there's a 3DS with a built in second stick (albeit very small and probably horrible to use in an 3D action game)
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    Quote Originally Posted by SazandoraIsAwesome View Post
    Yes, Xenoblade 3DS is a downport that requires an entirely new handheld. Pretty sure we all knew that like a few hours after the Direct.
    I'm gonna be trading in my OG 3DS for a N3DSXL. Don't care for Xenoblade, so that's not my reason for upgrading. I just think the OG 3DS's screen is utter shet. Maybe I'll finally be able to finish Kid Icarus Uprising now that there's a 3DS with a built in second stick (albeit very small and probably horrible to use in an 3D action game)
    Kid Icarus doesn't support dual-stick gameplay. The game was even given Circle Pad Pro support but only so lefties could play comfortably. The only way it would work like that is if they released a patch for the game. I do believe I remember Sakurai commenting that he felt using touchscreen aiming was better for the kind of game they wanted to make(and of course the practical reason against the patch of KI:U being a 3-year-old game by the time N3DS comes out).
    Besides, KI:U had fully adjustable controls, so with enough time you could either find your ideal settings or get used to what feels best.
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    My thoughts are pretty much this. When people buy a dedicated gaming system, whether it's a 3DS, PS4, Xbox One, or any other gaming system out there, they buy them because they are secure in the knowledge that the system will last at least 5 to 6 years. If a company is going to crank out a new console (even a handheld) every 3 or so years, people are going to be less inclined to drop 200 dollars on it, because there's no guarantee they won't do this again three more years down the road.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Excitable Boy View Post
    Xenoblade Chronicles is also a port as opposed to a new game.

    Sell your existing 3DS to fund the new one if you need to play Xenoblade that badly (which you do), or worst-case scenario, wait for the actual successor to be released and buy it for that.
    Nobody's going to buy a console just to play a port of a game that was already released a generation ago. People are going to have to see what kind of exclusives the N3DS is going to get, and the quality of these exclusives before making that kind of commitment. In fact, that's pretty much my mindset at the moment. I'm not ruling out trading in my 3DS XL to get a N3DS, but I'm also not too crazy about getting one unless the incentive is too great for me to ignore. I'd love to play Xenoblade, but it's not a console seller for me.

    Quote Originally Posted by SazandoraIsAwesome View Post
    Yes, Xenoblade 3DS is a downport that requires an entirely new handheld. Pretty sure we all knew that like a few hours after the Direct.
    I'm gonna be trading in my OG 3DS for a N3DSXL. Don't care for Xenoblade, so that's not my reason for upgrading. I just think the OG 3DS's screen is utter shet. Maybe I'll finally be able to finish Kid Icarus Uprising now that there's a 3DS with a built in second stick (albeit very small and probably horrible to use in an 3D action game)
    Sakurai isn't going to patch a 3-year game to suit the N3DS control scheme. Even then, I remember Sakurai defending his control scheme to the point of saying that he won't change it. Though, on a regular XL, KI:U is actually quite easy to control. So you might find some enjoyment in the N3DS XL. As for the second stick, I think Nintendo meant it solely for camera controls, given the size restraint and the close proximity to face buttons. That being said, I don't think we'll see the C-stick be part of the main control scheme for every game. Just the few games that really need it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBaby View Post
    My thoughts are pretty much this. When people buy a dedicated gaming system, whether it's a 3DS, PS4, Xbox One, or any other gaming system out there, they buy them because they are secure in the knowledge that the system will last at least 5 to 6 years. If a company is going to crank out a new console (even a handheld) every 3 or so years, people are going to be less inclined to drop 200 dollars on it, because there's no guarantee they won't do this again three more years down the road.
    That is a completely fair standpoint. For me personally, I do not mind since I've been thinking of upgrading anyway and this has proven to be the perfect opportunity to do so.

    I've gotten a TON of mileage out of my limited edition Zelda 3DS since picking it up a little less than three years years ago and since me and my family travel a lot, I play handheld games more than I play console and PC games.

    My point is, I do not think the the amount of time between new products is what limits someone from picking up a new version of previous hardware, but rather what they get out of it. 3 years is still a pretty long time to be quite honest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BurningWhiteKyurem View Post
    Nobody's going to buy a console just to play a port of a game that was already released a generation ago.
    Yes they will. Especially since said game is gone from all stores and selling on eBay for $200+

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jb View Post
    Yes they will. Especially since said game is gone from all stores and selling on eBay for $200+
    Well, Amazon sellers are selling it for $60. eBay people are more stingy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BurningWhiteKyurem View Post
    Sakurai isn't going to patch a 3-year game to suit the N3DS control scheme. Even then, I remember Sakurai defending his control scheme to the point of saying that he won't change it. Though, on a regular XL, KI:U is actually quite easy to control. So you might find some enjoyment in the N3DS XL. As for the second stick, I think Nintendo meant it solely for camera controls, given the size restraint and the close proximity to face buttons. That being said, I don't think we'll see the C-stick be part of the main control scheme for every game. Just the few games that really need it.
    What games supported the CPP? Because that should have helped KIU when it came out (bundled with RER a moth before KIU, IIRC). And yeah, that's what second sticks are for. Move the camera, shoot with your gun, slashing people without the gimmicky motion controls, etc. Obviously not every game needs a second stick. Pokémon doesn't need it yet since they're still stuck using a top-down view, Fire Emblem too, Tetris, fighting games, etc. Any 2D games really. But for 3D action/adventure, shooters, etc, they're needed. I can't judge it yet, but aiming in RER with that really small stick looks like it'll feel uncomfortable and horrible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jb View Post
    Yes they will. Especially since said game is gone from all stores and selling on eBay for $200+
    Of course, those that missed out on the Wii game will benefit (provided that the experience is comfortable and the visuals look better by then). But what I meant is that Xenoblade is not a system seller by any means in that it will only garner interest of a niche market (one that presumably enjoys RPGs in general, and/or the Xeno series) compared to something like a Mario, Zelda, or even a Smash Brothers title. It simply doesn't have the brand recognition that Nintendo's larger IPs have.

    Quote Originally Posted by SazandoraIsAwesome View Post
    What games supported the CPP? Because that should have helped KIU when it came out (bundled with RER a moth before KIU, IIRC). And yeah, that's what second sticks are for. Move the camera, shoot with your gun, slashing people without the gimmicky motion controls, etc. Obviously not every game needs a second stick. Pokémon doesn't need it yet since they're still stuck using a top-down view, Fire Emblem too, Tetris, fighting games, etc. Any 2D games really. But for 3D action/adventure, shooters, etc, they're needed. I can't judge it yet, but aiming in RER with that really small stick looks like it'll feel uncomfortable and horrible.
    Only a handful if I remember correctly. Titles like MGS 3D, Monster Hunter and Kingdom Hearts 3D comes to mind. I'm betting for RE controls that Capcom might expect people to aim with the second stick and fire with a face button or the larger trigger.

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    KI:U actually supports the CPP as a left handed mode

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    Quote Originally Posted by R_N View Post
    KI:U actually supports the CPP as a left handed mode
    Left-handed person approves this statement.

    I do have a couple of CPP games that I love, but I am finding this system to be a potentially good investment.

    I want to see more of this when more information surfaces.

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    Only thing is, for a left handed mode, will the nub be enough for the aiming? Time will tell. And the controversy over releasing a new model is getting out of hand. Yes, you may have bought a 3DS way back when. Or even a year ago. Point is, Nintendo has always done this and always will. Hell, with the markets aggressive nature compared to previous generations due to the emergence of mobile gaming its arguable that Nintendo should have done this sooner to stay afloat. More importantly, what are people going to do next gen, when the Nintendo OS is finally implemented, and they go for a multiple SKU route? You know, not like now where this model should replace a 3 year old already outdated piece of hardware, but where you have multiple tiers of hardware, all with varying degrees of graphical prowess? Its only going to get worst if your against this, which is completely mild to what we might see by the time next gen comes round. As for now, I don't mind. As I said, the OG 3DS is 3 years old, almost 4. If you bought an XL for whatever reason on top of that, well that was optional, and not like you were gaining something. These are meant to replace the old, and give new life to the lineup. If it will work, who knows. I am worried however that even with the additions to the console, there won't be much support.
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    In a world where new phones are released yearly, I can't fathom why people are mad about a new system 3.5 years later.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hydrohs View Post
    I don't like the XL personally, I don't like seeing everything scaled, but not everyone will notice. Otherwise the new 3DS models fixed my main complaints with the old 3DS, the stiff buttons. From the looks of it they're using the same buttons as the 3DS XL, so I really have no reason to suggest an XL.
    Yeah, I feel like I'd hate the large scaling when to comes to 3D and, besides, the new standard size has a larger screen.

    Quote Originally Posted by Excitable Boy View Post
    if you're basing that on a comparison to reviewers you've never seen irl, that's kinda weird

    if you think that's actually true, though, then get an OG 3DS
    LOL it was just my clause because when I tend to ask things like that guys (and girls) tend to tell me that their hands are too big for the standard to be comfortable for them and I'm not really interested in a review based on hand size.

    Quote Originally Posted by SazandoraIsAwesome View Post
    Why not just buy all models? You already wrote #HAILNINTENDO, meaning you must be a hardcore fan who buys all Nintendo related products
    I am not that hardcore and I was not entirely convinced this was a new console (until I realized the hardware has changed so it effectively is...).

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    Adding parental controls is one thing, paying to unlock them something else. It's not even the price, it's the principle
    It is. On the other hand, who uses the 3DS to look at porn? I did it once though, 3D peen sticking out was a hilarious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hexin' Wishes View Post
    In a world where new phones are released yearly, I can't fathom why people are mad about a new system 3.5 years later.
    Well, I don't buy a new phone yearly, so...

    Personally, I'm no mad with Nintendo for doing this. I'm just a bit frustrated because of my own lack of money.
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    Another thing I also do not understand is how the name will cause confusion. Ninentndo branded it wıth the Amiibo logo not some generic text. People will associate the two quickly, and its not like there IS anything to confuse it with. The OG 3DS is practically shelved, with the XL being almost its reolacement. No one will really mark the change, outside of existing owners looking to upgrade. All in all, I definitely think its going to be more GBC then DSi in terms of new offerings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mitchman_93 View Post
    Another thing I also do not understand is how the name will cause confusion. Ninentndo branded it wıth the Amiibo logo not some generic text. People will associate the two quickly, and its not like there IS anything to confuse it with. The OG 3DS is practically shelved, with the XL being almost its reolacement. No one will really mark the change, outside of existing owners looking to upgrade. All in all, I definitely think its going to be more GBC then DSi in terms of new offerings.
    That not how it's going to work at all. The name is going to confuse people, I speak from experience.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hydrohs View Post
    That not how it's going to work at all. The name is going to confuse people, I speak from experience.
    So true, especially when dealing with people that aren't interested in games.

    Branding it with the word "New" regardless if it has the amiibo logo is going to be confusing enough towards people. Something as small as the new amiibo logo is not going to be enough to show regular people the difference between the New N3DS/XL from the OG 3DS/XL. I'm sure most parents are gonna look at it and think "what's the difference? I'm not going buy another system that's exactly the same".
    When NoA finally announces it here in the states I'm hopping they really focus on what makes it different. Not to mention the fact it's going to have exclusive games that won't be playable on OG 3DS/XL because of the faster CPU.
    I can't remember where I read this, but calling it something like 3DS pro/3DS pro XL might be a better name then "New". Especially after a couple months, to a couple years it won't really be so new anymore.
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    Hopefully the regginator will be smart enough to rebrand this as the 3DSi or S3DS or 3DS+ or a name that works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hydrohs View Post
    That not how it's going to work at all. The name is going to confuse people, I speak from experience.
    If that's the case, I'll take your word for it. But still, I think in some way its all going to work out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mitchman_93 View Post
    If that's the case, I'll take your word for it. But still, I think in some way its all going to work out.
    There are ways they can make it known that they're different, but no one who would be confused by the name is going to recognize the Amiibo logo and understand everything, those people will have no idea what Amiibos even are.

    This is assuming they keep the 'New 3DS' name, changing it would help a little but as long as the 3DS is still in there there will be confused people. I still get people asking me what the difference between a DS and a 3DS is.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hydrohs View Post
    I still get people asking me what the difference between a DS and a 3DS is.
    But mightn't some of these have been the same people who would have asked you the difference between, say, an NES and a Super NES, the people for whom any sort of name similarity is going to cause disproportionate confusion?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hexin' Wishes View Post
    It is. On the other hand, who uses the 3DS to look at porn? I did it once though, 3D peen sticking out was a hilarious.
    The 3D actually works on porn videos? Is it for all videos online (meaning 3D also works on Youtube, Dailymotion, Vimeo, etc), or only select ones? I thought people were joking when they said they watch porn on their 3DS...
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    On the 3DS you can't though. Images cap at 1MB, there is no flash support for video players, and what images you can load are without zoom, depending on the site. The new 3DS should fare much bettet though, I mean it can do tabs all the sudden, so image loading shouldn't have any limits theoretically.
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