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    kasame would be based on kasa-obake if that rumor turns out to be true.

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    Birds tend to not attack poisonous frogs and bugs and all--and also, if you think of flying attacks as either attacking with wings or beak of some sort, or a blast of air, well, it makes some sense I guess. Poison resists Fighting and Bug and all--Flying seems like the most Physical type after those.

    It'd do wonders for the numerous Grass and Bug types who share the second type of poison.
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    Hey, the bat kinda reminds me of Coffing (except the color). Anyone else think this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic527 View Post
    Looks like a lot of ghosts this gen much like how there was a lot of fighting and steel types last gen.
    There wasn't really that many Fighting and Steel types O_o


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    It could be a stuffy-nosed type of thing. Sniphing maybe?

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    Apparently there's a lot of rumors surfacing right now.

    People on 2ch said that:

    There's a pokemon of fire/ice typing.
    And a pokemon named "Atokurosu" is based on Atlas of Greek Myth.
    Kasame is a water/ghost type
    Memera is a sheep pokemon with [clouds?] covering it's body?
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    Atokurosu seems to be a (rumored) evolution of Heracross. Kurosu is cross, I believe. It could be an Atlas beetle.

    Haven't heard about the other stuff.

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    I WANT POKEPIE! PIE IS AWESOMEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Well, ANYways, I just hope no one will sit there in one spot while every single Pokemon that's a threat to them see a whole bunch of good changes. ;-; poor Alakazam...... And other Psychic Pokemon with weak defense.... All the dark Pokemon got physical pursuit.... And Alakazam didn't see much change. Now he trembles in fear as Weavile and Tyranitar get sent out...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Doom View Post
    That'd be interesting. Correct me if I'm wrong, but this would be the first time that an unevolved pokemon would be just as viable as its evolution.
    Porygon2 is more defensively viable than Porygon-Z (however, Porygon-Z has better offensive capabilities).
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    I think this gen, they should make more types weak to Poison. Poison is useless as far as type matchups go because the only type it's super effective against (Grass) is already weak to four other types, and three out of four are much more popular.

    Also, here are some type matchups I'd like to see:

    Grass/Ghost
    Electric/Fire (which could actually make a lot of sense, since lightning can cause fires)
    Grass/Fire
    Fire/Ghost
    Bug/Electric (Volbeat and Illumise should have been this instead of another useless Bug/Flying)
    Rock/Ghost (kind of like Bouldergeist)
    Ice/Electric
    Ghost/Fighting
    Bug/Dragon (if the Mantis thing isn't)
    Bug/Dark
    Dragon/Ice
    Dragon/Poison
    Dark/Electric
    Dark/Fighting (the ultimate paradox)
    Dark/Dragon
    Grass/Electric
    Fire/Water
    Fire/Ice

    They can be done (well most of them, anyway).

    Quote Originally Posted by Hydrohs View Post
    There wasn't really that many Fighting and Steel types O_o
    You're right, but I think people think there are because there were quite a few good ones. While they didn't add a ton of pokemon, they did greatly improve those two types.
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    Just for laughs, here's my dissection of some of the names.
    ボイルブタ Boirubuta boil+buta(pig) -->Boilbuta
    ランランボ Ranranbo ranran (flaming) + bo(ar). ranbo (pronouned rambo) means violent. Oh, the irony. --> Ranranbo
    ツタワイヤ Tsutawaiya tsuta (ivy) + Wire -->Tsutawire
    ツタテスラ Tsutatesura tsuta (ivy) + can't think/find anything that fits. Hmm -->Tsutatesura
    トラロイヤ Toraroiya tora (tiger) + royalty -->Toraroya
    ラッコブシ Rakkobushi rakko (sea otter) + bushi (warrior) -->Rakkobushi
    セルフィル Serufiru Cell + Chlorophyll -->Cellphyll
    ギザジェム Gizajemu Gizagiza (notched) + Gem (Hello Notched Ear Pichu's daddy!) --> Gizagem
    ゴシックロ Goshikkuro Gothic + kuro (black) -->Gothikkuro
    カサメ Kasame Kasa (umbrella) + me (eye), possbile that Same (shark) is also being played upon. -->Kasame

    So yeah...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sabonea_Masukippa View Post
    Just for laughs, here's my dissection of some of the names.
    ボイルブタ Boirubuta boil+buta(pig)
    ランランボ Ranranbo ranran (flaming) + bo(ar). ranbo (pronouned rambo) means violent. Oh, the irony.
    ツタワイヤ Tsutawaiya tsuta (ivy) + Wire
    ツタテスラ Tsutatesura tsuta (ivy) + can't think/find anything that fits. Hmm
    トラロイヤ Toraroiya tora (tiger) + royalty
    ラッコブシ Rakkobushi rakko (sea otter) + bushi (warrior)
    セルフィル Serufiru Cell + Chlorophyll
    ギザジェム Gizajemu Gizagiza (notched) + Gem (Hello Notched Ear Pichu's daddy!)
    ゴシックロ Goshikkuro Gothic + kuro (black)
    カサメ Kasame Kasa (umbrella) + me (eye), possbile that Same (shark) is also being played upon.

    So yeah...
    lol I saw those in 2ch. Pretty interesting, if true.
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    They need to fix some Pokemon's cries! By the way, anyone else compared Mewtwo's and Mew's cries with Paras and Parasect's cries? They sound the same. :l

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    Rumors from 2ch:

    -Players seem to be able to collect items that change the weather in BW. There are supposedly 20? items.
    -Corocoro claims that there is a meteorological instrument in the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hever View Post
    Rumors from 2ch:

    -Players seem to be able to collect items that change the weather in BW. There are supposedly 20? items.
    -Corocoro claims that there is a meteorological instrument in the game.
    I thought the weather item thing was proved fake awhile back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hever View Post
    Rumors from 2ch:

    -Players seem to be able to collect items that change the weather in BW. There are supposedly 20? items.
    -Corocoro claims that there is a meteorological instrument in the game.
    Hever, those are a google translation of Pokebeach's Martin Mueler leaks from nearly a month ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sabonea_Masukippa View Post
    Hever, those are a google translation of Pokebeach's Martin Mueler leaks from nearly a month ago.
    Are they? I apologize.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hever View Post
    Rumors from 2ch:

    -Players seem to be able to collect items that change the weather in BW. There are supposedly 20? items.
    Wasn't this the same rumor that Martjin guy tried to pass off over at PokeBeach?

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    That one rumor about the weather items was from that older rumor Pokebeach got (which was kind of similar, a Zelda fansite user or something) which mentioned a Tauros evolution named Minotauros (If that's the Japanese name, I think it's too long if you change it into katakana) and a green cobra legendary. It was never proven I think. It kind of clashes with these rumors, unless we have two green cobras...I'd say green cobra Tsutaja evolution is more likely than a legendary one that's the third member of Reshiram and Zekurom's gang...

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    I hope the otter evolves into something great 'cause a lot of people hate him..... l:, He's SO cute! How can you hate him?!

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    ミノタロス --> Minotaros --> Minotauros.
    Same way that Tauros is:
    ケンタロス ーー> Kentaros --> Tauros.

    Doesn't mean the rumors are true. Just saying, he at least got the amount of characters Pokemon names can have in Japanese right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Umbreon9 View Post
    They need to fix some Pokemon's cries! By the way, anyone else compared Mewtwo's and Mew's cries with Paras and Parasect's cries? They sound the same. :l
    There's a lot of instances like that, including unrelated ones

    Machop and Omanyte
    Doduo and Diglett

    I'm sure there's more.
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    It's true they came out a while ago, but they never disproved them. Actually, the appearance of the "weather" icon on the fight menu reinforced it.

    But it hasn't been proved or disproved.

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    Here's where we're at, for people who are a bit lost (I'm using as fully romanized names as possible):

    Officially Announced:
    The following have featured in Corocoro Magazine/the official BW webpage:
    Zorua, Zoroark, Reshiram, Zekrom, Tsutarja, Pokabu, Mijumaru, Mamepato, Munna, Chillarmy, Shimama, Meguroko, Hihidaruma, Gearu, Wargle, Rankurusu, Gochiruzeru, Musharna, Koromori, Minezumi, Kibago, Victini, Moguryuu, Miruhoggu, Mamambou, Kirumiru, Swanna, Shikijika, Gigaiath, Yanappu, Baoppu, Hiyappu, Emonga, Basurao, Yorterii, Choroneko, Tabunne, Monmen, Churine, Tamagetake, Baffuron, Dangoro, Mebukijika, Deathkahn, Ononokusu, Doryuuzu, Denchula, Janobii, Chaobuu, Futachimaru.

    The following have only appeared in official video/promotional materials:
    Darumakka, Blue-blob, Green-blob, "Tsuta3", "Miju3", and "Poka3", Smiley-face.

    That's 57 Pokemon.
    50 have official Sugimori art released, 7 do not.
    1 is seen covered in Musical Accessories.
    3 (Zorua, Zoroark, Victini) do not appear in normal BW game play and must be accessed via an event.
    7 Evolution chains have been confirmed. Zoroa --> Zoroark & Munna --> Musharna, Minezumi --> Miruhoggu & Moguryuu --> Doryuuzu, the 3 starters' lines and Shikijika --> Mebukijika.
    It is presumed that Darumakka evolves into Hihidaruma, Kibago into Ononokusu, and Dongoro into Gigaiath.

    Confirmed By Inside Source - Mainly Legends:
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    That's another 11 New Pokemon.

    Pokexperto Dex Stuff - Awaiting confirmation. Confirmed
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    That's 39 New Pokemon. For non-twitter info from Hiro (mainly) here's a link to B.Dragon's collected post.

    Revealed in 2chan Images on 9/7/10:
    Hatohpoh a tall bird Pokemon, hypothesized to be an evolution of Mamepato, since "Hato/Pato" means Pigeon, plus an overall design similarity.

    That's another 1.

    Play-doh Set, Name Only:
    Onokkusu; presumably related to Ononokusu, but see below.
    Burokko; could come from Broccoli or block.

    Add 2 to the total then.

    Note: The Amazon listing for the Play-doh set mispells Pikachu (ピカチュウ) as ピカチュー (Pikachu-) and Pokabu (ポカブ) as ホカプ (Hokapu), so these two names may not be 100% correct.

    Altogether we know of/have seen a confirmed 106 of the new Pokemon, with it being 60 minus the two major leaks.

    Rumors:
    The rumors below in the spoiler tag are false as Korobooshi Kojiro has come forth and said he created them himself; both the GameFAQ and Pokejungle ones are affected.
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    And from various sources on 2chan:
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    And the alleged end of the Dex - Likely false as they assume 7 old Pokemon to be in the Isshu regional dex:
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    These come from 2chan, reported on BlueSky and allegedly come from someone who managed to play some sort of demo of the games. Notes on the name meanings are italicized and in brackets. Thanks to Masuda's recent blog stating no old Pokemon would be in the Isshu dex, these are now false.

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    It does seem plausable that the weather items could be true, but I don't think there would be more than 4, let alone 20.( one for sun, rain, hail, and another for normal) unless they add other weather conditions, such as wind, clouds, or other things, which I think would be cool and add more diversity to the reigon, there could be a route that's very windy, making it hard to walk upwind.

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