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    Hi, this is for discussion of novelty/gimmick Pokemon. We have all seen them, and some of us love them and some of us hate them. But the fact is, they exist and deserve just as much attention as every OU powerhouse out there.. so here it is, the thread for the discussion of gimmick and novelty pokemon!

    Please note: This is NOT a favorites thread. There is a staple post for that.

    For a general list of novelty pokemon and what defines them, see this article from the lovely Bulbapedia: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wi...y_Pok%C3%A9mon

    Everyone has different opinions of what a novelty or gimmick pokemon is, and that is okay. For me, a novelty pokemon is a pokemon with something that makes it unique or special.

    For example my favorite pokemon, Castform. This little guy's form changes with the weather. It has a unique ability, forecast, which allows this. It also has a unique move, weather ball.

    There are many gimmick pokemon. Cherrim, a pokemon generally considered weak, has the ability to change form in the sun. Stantler could be considered a "Christmas gimmick." Ditto might be called a gimmick due to its ability to change into other pokemon, same with Zoroark. Others might include Spinda, Unown, and Smeargle. And, as I was just reminded, the ever so troll-ish Margikarp and Feebas.

    Everyone's opinion of what defines a gimmick pokemon is different. Bulbapedia presents the following general guidelines for what defines a gimmick or novelty pokemon, though each person might have their own opinions.


    "A novelty Pokémon, also referred to as a gimmick Pokémon, is a term for a Pokémon that usually possesses at least one of the following characteristics:

    -Does not evolve into or from another Pokémon
    -Has a movepool limited to very few moves
    -Has a unique Ability
    -Has below-average base stats
    -Was made to introduce a game mechanic
    -Has another unique feature"
    ^Credit to Bulbapedia

    So to get the ball rolling on this discussion I will present a few questions.

    1) How do you feel about the gimmick pokemon added by Game Freak?
    2) Do you ever use them in battle, in-game or competitively? Why or why not?
    3) Do you think that if more gimmick pokemon are added, the current ones won't be as cherished?
    4) Would you like to see the current gimmick/novelty pokemon rise in popularity or even have a new "gimmick" tier created for competitive players?
    5) Have you ever used a gimmick pokemon without even thinking about the fact that it might be a gimmick pokemon?
    6) Do you think that these pokemon deserve more credit in terms of usefulness and strategics? (In my opinion, a team of gimmicks would be quite powerful)
    7) Which pokemon do you consider to be gimmicks or not to be gimmicks? Why or why not?


    Please note: you don't have to answer these questions. They are just to facilitate discussion.

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    For a quick look at the powerfulness of a fully gimmick team, I will throw out an example.

    Imagine a team looking something like the following:

    1) Kecleon
    2) Cherrim
    3) Castform
    4) DW Ditto
    5) Zoroark
    6) Smeargle

    Gimmick teams have the element of surprise. The opponent has no idea what is going on. Kecleon's type is constantly changing, Cherrim is bouncing back between forms, Castform's type and STAB can be fire-water-ice at any given moment, DW Ditto and Zoroark are dealing out fast damage and confusing the opponent to no end, and Smeargle's moveset is ridiculously unpredictable.

    I am not saying that this has a competitive use, nor am I recommending you use this team. I came up with this team in under 30 seconds and barely any thought went into it. I am just trying to display the fact that gimmick pokemon do have a place when used properly and when strategy is used.

    Gimmick pokemon have the factors of variability and the element of surprise, and that is why I love them.

    Discuss

    I am very sorry about the fact that this thread is a wall of text. I wanted to avoid this and make it colorful with sprites and pictures, but unfortunately I believe you cannot add those currently. I tried to mix it up with varying fonts and text sizes. Thanks for understanding.
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    Why did you forget the ever so trollish Magikarp and Feebas? XD
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    How could I commit such a crime? *gasp*

    I have edited in a little mention of those two fiendish fish


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    In pretty sure Beldum and Unknown count as well right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BritishWeavile View Post
    In pretty sure Beldum and Unknown count as well right?
    *Unown

    Why must you hate Beldum so???????????


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    I feel like Combee is a little bit of a gimmick.

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    Combee does seem like a bit of a gimmick, especially with its ability. Vesipiqueen is a pretty cool pokemon though.

    Unown is often considered a gimmick.

    I guess some might say that Beldum is a gimmick, but it is not to be reckoned with when it is a Metagross.


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    *Le bump for le gimmicky pocket monsters


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    Beldum isn't too much of a gimmick as he get more than just Take Down. I actually use a Feebas on my W2 team.....cuz its awesomeXD


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    Quote Originally Posted by Duranteater View Post
    Feebas.....cuz its awesomeXD
    How exactly do you advance in the game?


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    Quote Originally Posted by iliekmudkipz View Post
    How exactly do you advance in the game?
    With an exp share, my other Pokemon are higher than the level 73 fish.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Duranteater View Post
    With an exp share, my other Pokemon are higher than the level 73 fish.
    You should really evolve your Feebas.
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    Anyway, the Unown are pretty bleh. They don't really serve a point.


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    Why? I already have a Milotic on my team plus at least I am not using Magikarp (who can't do diddly to Steels/Rocks/Ghosts).


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    COMIC SANS!!!

    Sometimes, gimmicky Pokemon are fun to use in-game. Mostly because you could win every in-game battle with a single Magikarp if you trained it enough.
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    I just read the whole gimmick thing on bulbapedia x'D

    Okay... I am using spiky-eared pichu, emolga, plusle, pachirisu, eevee, togepi, marill, feebas, abra, and manaphy in PMD2.
    Gimmicks are fun to use especially the electric rodents... I don't think they're that weak.

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    1) They're cute and cool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MISSINGNO. rufflet_is_gag View Post
    7) Honchkrow and Mismagius. *cough* Dusk Stone and meh stats *cough*
    How are Honchkrow and Mismagius gimmicky?


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    Isn't Arceus gimmick too?He's playing 'god'?

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    Smeargle is an awesome gimmick. I use one pretty often in-game.


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    Castform is in my normal ou team...

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlourescemtMunchlax View Post
    Castform is in my normal ou team...

    Out of couriosity how well does that work?

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    Aegislash's ability is clearly a gimmick, but it's what makes him so unbelievably powerful. Sometimes gimmicks work to benefit the Pokémon.

    Quote Originally Posted by MISSINGNO. rufflet_is_gag View Post
    7) Honchkrow and Mismagius. *cough* Dusk Stone and meh stats *cough*
    These definitely aren't gimmicks. Using either in UU, you can see that Honch has a niche as a revenging sweeper and mind-game player, and Mismagius can still sub CM like it could gen 4. They have many, many viable sets on top of this, so they're really not one-trick ponies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ^Cutty^ View Post
    Isn't Arceus gimmick too?He's playing 'god'?

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    Smeargle is not that bad.
    Either it can set up hazards or force your opponent to rip his/her hair out after baton passing stat boosts to something else. Spore also helps it.
    DW ditto is an ultimate revenge killer with a choice scarf.(Especially in Ubers)
    I started using Farfech'd just for fun, and how well it goes with a stick and slash or air cutter.(25% Chance of a critical hit may prove itself really useful at times , though you shouldn't rely on it too much).
    I like Emolga along side with other pikaclones too , but emolga gets the #1 spot due to electric immunity.
    And don't forget the F.E.A.R. strategy on some other gimmicks that can always snatch the victory from unprepared opponents.

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    Would Solrock and Lunatone count as gimmicks?

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