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    Default A Collaboration {SCRMT}

    After a bit of a hiatus from IGRMT, TheBlueRabbit and I decided
    to put our heads together and come up with a team. It eventually
    came together as such, and we're quite satisfied. Rate away!


    Breloom @ Toxic Orb
    • Adamant Nature
    • 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
    • Poison Heal
    - Substitute
    - Focus Punch
    - Seed Bomb
    - Stone Edge

    SubPunching Spore-less Breloom. We figured having both was a
    bit unnecessary, so we went for coverage. Focus Punch and Seed
    Bomb are great STAB attacks, while Stone Edge makes sure he's
    not walled by flying types.


    Heatran @ Choice Scarf
    • Modest Nature
    • 40 HP / 252 SpAtk / 216 Spe
    • Flash Fire
    - Fire Blast
    - Earth Power
    - Hidden Power [Grass]
    - Dragon Pulse

    Good 'ol ScarfTran. He gets amazing synergy with Breloom, and
    gets good coverage. The EV's put him above ScarfTar and all
    Magnezone. Fire Blast is obvious, Earth Power is for other fire
    types, HP [Grass] covers any water/ground types and Dragon
    Pulse takes out Dragonite, who could be a problem for the rest
    of the team.


    Vaporeon @ Leftovers
    • Bold Nature
    • 192 HP / 252 Def / 64 SpDef
    • Water Absorb
    - Surf
    - Toxic
    - Protect
    - Wish

    We needed a bulky water to round out our synergy, and who better
    to do that than Vaporeon? The EV's hit the max lefties recovery
    point, max Def and the rest were thrown into SpD. Surf is a reliable
    STAB, while Toxic/Wish/Protect work in tandem for some supreme
    stalling.


    Machamp @ Leftovers
    • Adamant Nature
    • 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Spe
    • No Guard
    - Dynamicpunch
    - Thunderpunch
    - Payback
    - Stone Edge

    Realizing that we needed a strong physical attacker, Machamp came
    to mind, as he fit the bulky offense bill perfectly. DynamicPunch is win,
    ThunderPunch allows him to check Gyarados (who can be a huge pain
    for this team), Payback is for Gengar and Stone Edge is basically filler
    and takes advantage of No Guard.


    Gliscor @ Leftovers
    • Adamant Nature
    • 40 HP / 252 Atk / 216 Spe
    • Hyper Cutter
    - Rock Slide
    - Earthquake
    - Swords Dance
    - Roost

    Sticking with physical attackers, we decided to add some set-up offense.
    Gliscor fit in nicely with it's good typing and access to instant recovery.
    EQ is awesome STAB and Rock Slide rounds out the coverage. Rock
    Slide was chosen since Machamp already carries Stone Edge, and also
    for accuracy reasons, the flincHax is just a nice extra. The EV's are to
    make sure that he outspeeds Lucario before he can KO with Ice Punch.


    Gengar @ Life Orb
    • Timid Nature
    • 4 HP / 252 SpAtk / *252 Spe
    • Levitate
    - Shadow Ball
    - Focus Blast
    - Hidden Power [Ice]
    - Thunderbolt

    The main problems our team had up to now were Gyarados, Gengar and
    Dragonite. We could think of no one better to take care of that than a
    Gengar of our own, and he also brings some much needed speed to the
    team. TBolt and HP [Ice] gives him pseudo-BoltBeam coverage, which
    our team lacked, while Shadow Ball and Focus Blast give him complete
    coverage.

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    Haha nice team! >.> but that's spam, so.....I'd say maybe watch out for Alakazam? Idk how common it is, but as half your team is Psychic weak, I see a Timid Alakazam w/ Psychic-Focus Blast-Shadow Ball-Energy Ball doing some pretty hefty damage, outspeeding all but ScarfTran, who has issue with the aforementioned Gyarados. Idk, that's all I see atm, since I'm not competitive yet.

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    Timid 'Zam actually outspeeds that Heatran, but he's gonna have
    a lot of trouble switching in. Psychic, however, can put a
    dent in this team, but since it's a pretty lol attacking type, it
    shouldn't pose much of a problem. Thanks for the rate dude. ^^

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    I'm seeing 3 Psychic weaknesses, but of course you already know that.

    If somebody decides to come out with a Life Orb Timid Alakazam, I'll pray for you.

    You could always try Substitute instead of Protect on Vaporeon. Toxic is to kill over time, The Sub is to protect, and then Wish could come in handy for the team-mates and sub damage. It's a bit of a stretch and I don't know exactly how it would work out, but other than that little ghost of a tip I don't see too much wrong.
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    @GS: no problem dude. ^^ I'm not really qualified to rate this anyway, but I did, so. However, even with Psychic being rare, I'd personally switch something up to counter this, as you can really never be too careful, you know? You know. You could probably replace Breloom with a different Grass Lead or something, since I don't see it adding much to your team bar Seed Bomb/heavy Focus Punches, but still, it's generally slow and frail enough to not be able to keep up Subs...theoretically speaking, of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soroft View Post
    I'm seeing 3 Psychic weaknesses, but of course you already know that.

    If somebody decides to come out with a Life Orb Timid Alakazam, I'll pray for you.
    We knew that when we were building the team tbh. However, last month, Alakazam appeared on only 2% of teams so it's really not something wo worry about.

    You could always try Substitute instead of Protect on Vaporeon. Toxic is to kill over time, The Sub is to protect, and then Wish could come in handy for the team-mates and sub damage. It's a bit of a stretch and I don't know exactly how it would work out, but other than that little ghost of a tip I don't see too much wrong.
    Vaporeon can't afford to go around using up self-damaging Subs when it has the combo of Wish + Toxic + Protect available to it. In addition, Protect's priority is something it really gains benefit from; If Vappy gets hit very hard by an unpredicted attack then it may be left with a low amount of HP and be unable to gain the Wish recovery in time or even worse, be unable to Sub up and switch in to provide wish support. It's fine in theory, but in practical application Protect is the better move imo.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kerech View Post
    @GS: no problem dude. ^^ I'm not really qualified to rate this anyway, but I did, so.
    There're no real rating "qualifications", just knowledge or a lack of it. Even the least competitively-based person is able to rate an SCRMT if they have a decent knowledge of Pokémon in general. I have been out of the metagame for months, but I still helped build this team without competitive knowledge, so.

    However, even with Psychic being rare, I'd personally switch something up to counter this, as you can really never be too careful, you know? You know. You could probably replace Breloom with a different Grass Lead or something, since I don't see it adding much to your team bar Seed Bomb/heavy Focus Punches, but still, it's generally slow and frail enough to not be able to keep up Subs...theoretically speaking, of course.
    There are no other viable Grass leads, really, we've checked. We were originally going for the standard Shaymin form, but it proved to be horribly weak team member, lacking any sort of real firepower without having to setup with Growth, of all things. This limited us to a supporting set, which won't do anything much to heavy Psychic attacks anyway. It can stall for a bit, but that's it.

    Additionally, if a Pokémon's going to run a Psychic move, then it'll probably be Choiced, as Alakazam, for example, often is, so Heatran can just switch in and force them out of KO, whichever is easier. Imo, this is a situation that looks bad until you consider being in the situation, at which point you realise that there are generally fairly easy workarounds.

    Thanks for the ideas, guys.

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    Machamp could use Bullet Punch to remedy that situation,
    and some priority may be of use, but it'd take away from his
    type coverage. As TBR said, there are ways to work around the
    psychic weakness, but hey, priority is useful. Thoughts?

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    Celebi is a viable Grass lead, but this is SCRMT, so...

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