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    Do we have a complete list of version exclusives yet? This game has taken a while to leak completely.

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    Meloetta, Keldeo, Kyurem, and Genesect are confirmed names of the legends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ~Hot~as~Ice~ View Post
    Do we have a complete list of version exclusives yet? This game has taken a while to leak completely.
    We have everything pre-national dex.
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    Quote Originally Posted by du1387 View Post
    We have everything pre-national dex.
    We don't know all of the version exclusives, though. There's a fair few who could go either way.

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    ^^^ I thought we knew... oh well. lol. What pokemon could go either way?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meloetta View Post
    Meloetta, Keldeo, Kyurem, and Genesect are confirmed names of the legends.
    Why would there be websites named after them? I never understood that.

    Also like how every Pokemon (almost) got a new ability, but I don't understand the Slip Through one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Electric View Post
    Why would there be websites named after them? I never understood that.

    Also like how every Pokemon (almost) got a new ability, but I don't understand the Slip Through one.
    I'm pretty sure Slip Through allows you to basically ignore Reflect and Light Screen.

    Why?
    No idea.
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    Correct! Slip Through acts as if Reflect and Light Screen are never there, meaning that the ability user's attacks are only impeded by direct stat boosts and drops. It's Erufuun exclusive ingame, but a lot of Dream Worlders can have this ability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Electric View Post
    Why would there be websites named after them? I never understood that.

    Also like how every Pokemon (almost) got a new ability, but I don't understand the Slip Through one.
    It's a way of trademarking the name.

    I think Slip Through means you attack regardless of if the opponent is using Protect or Detect (maybe it even extends to being able to attack through moves like Reflect and Light Screen without having your attack strength lowered). EDIT: Ninja'd. So do Protect and Detect still work, then?

    Anyway, my understanding of the version-exclusives:

    Black
    Monmen
    Goichuzeru
    Wargle
    Reshiram
    (Shaga--is that his name?)
    Black City

    White
    Churine
    Ranculus
    Vuljina
    Zekrom
    Iris
    White Forest

    There may be more. I know that Torunerosu and Boruterosu are version exclusive Legendaries, although I don't know which Legendary goes in which version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grei View Post
    It's a way of trademarking the name.

    I think Slip Through means you attack regardless of if the opponent is using Protect or Detect (maybe it even extends to being able to attack through moves like Reflect and Light Screen without having your attack strength lowered). EDIT: Ninja'd. So do Protect and Detect still work, then?

    Anyway, my understanding of the version-exclusives:

    Black
    Monmen
    Goichuzeru
    Wargle
    Reshiram
    (Shaga--is that his name?)
    Black City

    White
    Churine
    Ranculus
    Vuljina
    Zekrom
    Iris
    White Forest

    There may be more. I know that Torunerosu and Boruterosu are version exclusive Legendaries, although I don't know which Legendary goes in which version.

    I believe that Torunerosu is Black exclusive, while Boruterosu is White exclusive.

    Does anyone know if Kurumiru and Fushide are version exclusive?

    With Rankurusu and Barujina, I'd be über happy if Fushide was available in White. I haven't gotten that far, yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grei View Post
    Black
    Monmen
    Goichuzeru
    Wargle
    Reshiram
    (Shaga--is that his name?)
    Black City

    White
    Churine
    Ranculus
    Vuljina
    Zekrom
    Iris
    White Forest

    There may be more. I know that Torunerosu and Boruterosu are version exclusive Legendaries, although I don't know which Legendary goes in which version.
    Torunerosu is black only, but wargle i think isn't because giancarlopa is doing a walkthrough and he has wargle and zekrom
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    That's good to hear. Now I can get Wargle no matter which version I decide (I was going to go with Black anyway).

    So... people have been able to get Dream World Pokemon before getting the National Dex, right? Transferring Dream World Pokemon is allowed while you still have the Regional Dex, correct? Or has anyone actually been able to use the Dream World yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xmikeyxlikesitx View Post
    I believe that Torunerosu is Black exclusive, while Boruterosu is White exclusive.

    Does anyone know if Kurumiru and Fushide are version exclusive?

    With Rankurusu and Barujina, I'd be über happy if Fushide was available in White. I haven't gotten that far, yet.
    Kurumiru is Black, Futsude in White. I thought that was officially revealed?

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    Have we gotten screenshots of any full in-game towns or routes yet?

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    So it's white to me. The dark maiden is not as cool as Rankurusu and Churine evo is simply awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Proby3 View Post
    Kurumiru is Black, Futsude in White. I thought that was officially revealed?
    Uh, no? You're probably thinking of Monmen & Churine.
    The Futsude hasn't even been officially revealed.

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    Is it just me, or is Mischievous Heart seriously one of the most amazing abilities out there?

    Also I'm torn, I love Rankurusu and Gorugozu, but Erufunn alone is almost enough to make me consider black...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slimslamer View Post
    Is it just me, or is Mischievous Heart seriously one of the most amazing abilities out there?
    And Sableye has it. :C
    I'm soooooooooooooooo happy with that. And also learns a new attack that has more power if the enemy has more attack (Which is probably 97% of the time :P) and new TM's that can average the stats of Attack and Defense status.

    Ohhhh, how much I love strategy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ungoliath View Post
    And Sableye has it. :C
    I'm soooooooooooooooo happy with that. And also learns a new attack that has more power if the enemy has more attack (Which is probably 97% of the time :P) and new TM's that can average the stats of Attack and Defense status.

    Ohhhh, how much I love strategy.
    My one worry is that it doesn't look like poor ole' erufunn gets much in the way of stat-boosters outside of growth. I'm hoping to be pleasantly surprised, but it seems like such a waste of a great pokemon/ability. (here's to hoping she learns Calm Mind or Bulk up, because if she does... she will be a monster)

    Also, yeah, the stats listed keep changing, now Agirudaan is listed with 145 speed again. Also, he has Unburden, and 100 Special attack, and a movepool boasting Bug Buzz and recover. <3 ninja clams.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bannana Tim View Post
    Have we gotten screenshots of any full in-game towns or routes yet?
    Um no, I don't think so. In fact, our best bet when it comes to full images of the Isshu towns and routes would be via some sort of guidebook scan as was the case with full images from Diamond and Pearl back in 2006. I think we can expect the same thing this time for Black and White so I'd say wait a few weeks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slimslamer View Post
    My one worry is that it doesn't look like poor ole' erufunn gets much in the way of stat-boosters outside of growth. I'm hoping to be pleasantly surprised, but it seems like such a waste of a great pokemon/ability. (here's to hoping she learns Calm Mind or Bulk up, because if she does... she will be a monster)

    Also, yeah, the stats listed keep changing, now Agirudaan is listed with 145 speed again. Also, he has Unburden, and 100 Special attack, and a movepool boasting Bug Buzz and recover. <3 ninja clams.
    No worries, there is plenty TM's that works under Stat Changes. Which makes me wonder if there is any list yet of who learns what TM.

    And well, I guess we will have to wait a few days until we can fully trust the Pokedex of the websites. And yeah, lately I'm a fond of that Pokemon and Shubarugo. And I never, ever liked Bug Pokemon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ungoliath View Post
    No worries, there is plenty TM's that works under Stat Changes. Which makes me wonder if there is any list yet of who learns what TM.

    And well, I guess we will have to wait a few days until we can fully trust the Pokedex of the websites. And yeah, lately I'm a fond of that Pokemon and Shubarugo. And I never, ever liked Bug Pokemon.

    List of who learns what TM in my sig under TMs and HMs. Link here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wordy View Post
    List of who learns what TM in my sig under TMs and HMs. Link here.
    Love you!

    And in the same time, it's a completely SHAME that it doesn't learn Power Share and Guard Share. But oh well, I'll see how I use that move alongside a Baton Passer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wordy View Post
    List of who learns what TM in my sig under TMs and HMs. Link here.
    Erufunn literally gets nothing... this is so dissapointing.

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