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    whats is it called again?.......Oh training, I see, I see

    lol I just thought it was rather strange

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    another question about EV training
    I EV trained my Lotad (Hes now at lvl 30)
    Didnt notice any difference in his speed stat...
    So i went to Litwicks (Remembr all i have trained on so far are basculines)
    And i got a special band (The one that speeds up getting SPAtk EVS)
    i killed 10 litwicks and checked my stat every single time.
    Special atk hasnt gone up AT ALL
    What am i doing wrong..
    The opecluid girl says my lotad can put more effort
    And all its trained in so far is speed
    What am doing wrong can somebody help?
    (i even checked after he lvled it only added 2 points. it should add more for 10 litwicks shouldnt it?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penguinsftw View Post
    another question about EV training
    I EV trained my Lotad (Hes now at lvl 30)
    Didnt notice any difference in his speed stat...
    So i went to Litwicks (Remembr all i have trained on so far are basculines)
    And i got a special band (The one that speeds up getting SPAtk EVS)
    i killed 10 litwicks and checked my stat every single time.
    Special atk hasnt gone up AT ALL
    What am i doing wrong..
    The opecluid girl says my lotad can put more effort
    And all its trained in so far is speed
    What am doing wrong can somebody help?
    (i even checked after he lvled it only added 2 points. it should add more for 10 litwicks shouldnt it?)
    You don't realize all of your potential stat gains from EPs until Lv. 100.

    Hence why we don't have Pokemon with Attack and Speed stats of 70+ terrorizing Little Cup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penguinsftw View Post
    another question about EV training
    I EV trained my Lotad (Hes now at lvl 30)
    Didnt notice any difference in his speed stat...
    So i went to Litwicks (Remembr all i have trained on so far are basculines)
    And i got a special band (The one that speeds up getting SPAtk EVS)
    i killed 10 litwicks and checked my stat every single time.
    Special atk hasnt gone up AT ALL
    What am i doing wrong..
    The opecluid girl says my lotad can put more effort
    And all its trained in so far is speed
    What am doing wrong can somebody help?
    (i even checked after he lvled it only added 2 points. it should add more for 10 litwicks shouldnt it?)
    Although stat increase calculations happen after each battle, unless you are level 100 you won't see the full effect of your EV training. Also 10 Litwicks aren't very many, you will see an increase after a while.


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    Quote Originally Posted by a person View Post
    You don't realize all of your potential stat gains from EPs until Lv. 100.

    Hence why we don't have Pokemon with Attack and Speed stats of 70+ terrorizing Little Cup.
    Oh. I shouldve known better -_-
    So the stats arent going to go up till lvl 100?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penguinsftw View Post
    another question about EV training
    I EV trained my Lotad (Hes now at lvl 30)
    Didnt notice any difference in his speed stat...
    So i went to Litwicks (Remembr all i have trained on so far are basculines)
    And i got a special band (The one that speeds up getting SPAtk EVS)
    i killed 10 litwicks and checked my stat every single time.
    Special atk hasnt gone up AT ALL
    What am i doing wrong..
    The opecluid girl says my lotad can put more effort
    And all its trained in so far is speed
    What am doing wrong can somebody help?
    (i even checked after he lvled it only added 2 points. it should add more for 10 litwicks shouldnt it?)
    Are you sure it didn't already have full EVs in those stats?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penguinsftw View Post
    Oh. I shouldve known better -_-
    So the stats arent going to go up till lvl 100?
    They go up, just not as much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penguinsftw View Post
    another question about EV training
    I EV trained my Lotad (Hes now at lvl 30)
    Didnt notice any difference in his speed stat...
    So i went to Litwicks (Remembr all i have trained on so far are basculines)
    And i got a special band (The one that speeds up getting SPAtk EVS)
    i killed 10 litwicks and checked my stat every single time.
    Special atk hasnt gone up AT ALL
    What am i doing wrong..
    The opecluid girl says my lotad can put more effort
    And all its trained in so far is speed
    What am doing wrong can somebody help?
    (i even checked after he lvled it only added 2 points. it should add more for 10 litwicks shouldnt it?)
    The stat gains from EVs add up to one additional stat for every 4 EVs at level 100. At lower levels, the stat gain still happens, but it is scaled down to reflect its current level. So at level 30, the stat gains from defeating each foe is only about a third of what it would be at level 100 (or approximately one point for every 12 EVs, which will continue to be scaled up as it levels up until the full level 100 value is obtained). So your 10 Litwicks are giving 5 points apiece: at level 30, two points is about right. As it gains levels, the stat gain on its Speed (already done) and SA will become more apparent.

    EDIT: Ninjas everywhere! But my point stands, the stat gains are scaled to match its current level and will show more effect as you increase in level after earning them.
    Last edited by Ememew; 14th May 2011 at 12:41 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ememew View Post
    The stat gains from EVs add up to one additional stat for every 4 EVs at level 100. At lower levels, the stat gain still happens, but it is scaled down to reflect its current level. So at level 30, the stat gains from defeating each foe is only about a third of what it would be at level 100 (or approximately one point for every 12 EVs, which will continue to be scaled up as it levels up until the full level 100 value is obtained). So your 10 Litwicks are giving 6 points apiece: at level 30, two points is about right. As it gains levels, the stat gain on its Speed (already done) and SA will become more apparent.
    Ok last question here lol
    So i EV train it BEFORE lvl one hundred
    Then at i level up it will increase?
    Or would a better idea be EV training it at level 99?
    (Im sorry im new to this X_X)
    (And wow so much help on this forum thanks alot guys

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penguinsftw View Post
    Ok last question here lol
    So i EV train it BEFORE lvl one hundred
    Then at i level up it will increase?
    Or would a better idea be EV training it at level 99?
    (Im sorry im new to this X_X)
    (And wow so much help on this forum thanks alot guys
    You can EV train whenever you want, as long as it's before level 100 as Pokemon wont gain EVs if they can't gain Exp. You will only see the full benefits at level 100.


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    Alright Thanks i figured it out thanks to you guys
    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hydrohs View Post
    You can EV train whenever you want, as long as it's before level 100 as Pokemon wont gain EVs if they can't gain Exp. You will only see the full benefits at level 100.
    Actually, Level 100 Pokémon can be EV trained, as of B/W.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blazios View Post
    Actually, Level 100 Pokémon can be EV trained, as of B/W.
    Does the Box trick work again?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Penguinsftw View Post
    Ok last question here lol
    So i EV train it BEFORE lvl one hundred
    Then at i level up it will increase?
    Or would a better idea be EV training it at level 99?
    (Im sorry im new to this X_X)
    (And wow so much help on this forum thanks alot guys
    You get the EVs from the moment you start training. They're there, don't worry. They're just scaled (the way all the stats' factors are) to reflect your current level. You get the increase immediately after battle, it's just multiplied by your current level divided by the maximum level. Training from early on gets just as many points in the final result as does EV training a high leveled Pokemon (assuming you can EV train and it's not already full, which is possible by catching at a higher level or raising in the Day Care). Remember every battle adds to the EVs until they're full.

    I hope I'm not just confusing you . . . I'm running on about two hours of sleep due to finishing a final paper and I'm not sure how coherent my thought are.

    But let's say you're at level 20 with 252 SAtk (63 points more at level 100 on a neutral nature). 63 x 0.2 (your level out of 100) means you have a noticeable gain of 12.6 points (or 11 more special attack than you would normally have at this level).
    Level the SAME Pokemon up to level 30, and the same 252 points you're earned will look like a gain of 18 points. At level 50, it scales up along with the level to become 31 extra SA. The SAME pokemon fully leveled has all 63 extra stat points. It doesn't matter when you start, just level up and it will scale to match the new current level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penguinsftw View Post
    Ok last question here lol
    So i EV train it BEFORE lvl one hundred
    Then at i level up it will increase?
    Or would a better idea be EV training it at level 99?
    (Im sorry im new to this X_X)
    (And wow so much help on this forum thanks alot guys
    Noooooooooo, don't EV train it at level 99! You'd have to leave it in daycare or give it rare candies to stop it getting EV's in unwanted stats while it is getting there.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hydrohs View Post
    Does the Box trick work again?
    Stats are recalculated at the end of every battle in BW. So if a Pokemon that is at Lv. 100 gets enough EVs to gain an extra stat point from a battle, its stat will increase by 1 straight away, without putting the Pokemon in the PC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hydrohs View Post
    Does the Box trick work again?
    No, but you can use the Wings you find on Marvelous Bridge/Driftveil Drawbridge to EV them if you're willing to waste seven hours of your life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimate Glalie View Post
    Stats are recalculated at the end of every battle in BW. So if a Pokemon that is at Lv. 100 gets enough EVs to gain an extra stat point from a battle, its stat will increase by 1 straight away, without putting the Pokemon in the PC.
    Really? Well I think I'll definitely be taking advantage of that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by a person View Post
    No, but you can use the Wings you find on Marvelous Bridge/Driftveil Drawbridge to EV them if you're willing to waste seven hours of your life.
    Waste? This is Pokemon! Serious business.

    XD


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    Quote Originally Posted by Aenea View Post
    Waste? This is Pokemon! Serious business.

    XD
    well, to us it is, to some people pokemon is being a nerd who is wasting their already idiotical life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aenea View Post
    Waste? This is Pokemon! Serious business.

    XD
    I have better things to do on my Pokemon games than spend hours searching for Wings, like hunting random encounter shinies, or fishing for shiny Jolly Lv. 100 Magikarp in the Resort Area with flawless IVs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by a person View Post
    I have better things to do on my Pokemon games than spend hours searching for Wings, like hunting random encounter shinies, or fishing for shiny Jolly Lv. 100 Magikarp in the Resort Area with flawless IVs.
    But having 9999999 of every item should be a dream including wings

    Why? Just because I can XD


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimate Glalie View Post
    Stats are recalculated at the end of every battle in BW. So if a Pokemon that is at Lv. 100 gets enough EVs to gain an extra stat point from a battle, its stat will increase by 1 straight away, without putting the Pokemon in the PC.
    This is true, but I was under the impression that you can only gain EVs if you gain EXP. So you can EV train at level 100, but only agonisingly slowly with Wings...

    Or has someone actually tested whether you can gain EVs at level 100 from battling?
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    Yeah, I'd definitely like to know if that's true. If it is it makes everything so much easier.


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    You can gain evs from battling even if the pokemon is level 100.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex048 View Post
    You can gain evs from battling even if the pokemon is level 100.
    Seconded. I've done it, you can.


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