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It doesn't bother me as I normally use Water types (and the odd Grass starter if I fancy something new) and haven't up to now had a Fire starter.
But I can see why people are tired of it already as it will be the Third starter with Fire/Fighting types.
Would be nice if they did Fire/Dark (Hellhound:P), Fire/Ground (Camerupt ftw) or something along them lines.
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Why isn't anyone complaining about having 3 pure Grass starters?
that's just as bad as 3 Fire/Fightings, people are just biased becuase their firef@gs and demand the best.
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And having three water or three grass is an invalid complaint. The starters will always be fire/water/grass as well as their final evolutions. The secondary type of starters is the focus of this thread.
The only reason it bothers me is because the Pokemon is a PIG. I really don't imagine pigs being Fighting types in any way. But that's just me.
And why doesn't that count? So it is bad with having a common secondary typing but not to have none secondary typing. I think that all the starters need more variation.
YES, this gen I expected fire/ground .. but I'll live. Besides I think all the fire/fighting starters designs are cool.
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Kind of. I was hoping for a Fire/Dark, Water/Fighting, Grass/Psychic trio this gen, and I thought it was going to happen for sure with the way the starters were looking. It doesn't really matter that much to me, as Pokabu works better as a fire default than a fighting default, so I never use him in that regard.
Basically, I don't really care. Emboar is a better fire/fighting starter than Blaziken and is equal to Infernape, imo.
I don't typically pick the Fire starter, so it doesn't bother me much. But it would be nice to see a different secondary type after three generations in a row having Fire/Fighting. Even a pure Fire type would be nice, as we've only had one of those.
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Normally I'd be neutral on an issue like this, but this time I'm not. This time I'll say that I am sick of this repeated type combo. The fact that the beginning form is an ordinary 4-legged pig makes it even worse. Making its evos suddenly biped and buff is the randomest thing ever, and a pathetic excuse to reuse the same type combo.
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What annoys me the most is that Pokabu's final form doesn't even strike me as being a fighting type. It seems more like a Dark type if anything.
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We've had three pure-Water starters.
We've had three pure-Grass starters.
We've had three Fire/Fighting starters.
Waiting til next gen before deciding, cause right now, it's not bothering me.
I'm definitely fine with the comeback of the typing. In fact I was sad about gen.V because I thought the fire/fighting 'era' was over but...*happyface! I'm just not a big fan of the new fire/fighting starter's looks. Blaziken is the coolest IMO
It's a very unique typing and for those who like the type but didn't like Blaziken, for example; well now there's bound to be one they like at least a little.
I love fire/fighting so I'm fine as long as they don't go with it in gen 6
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At first I thought WTF? A third Fire/Fighting starter, of all Pokémon, the starter.
But then I din't mind. Now that we have three Fire/Fighting Types there is bound to be one that can fit around your team.
They all have different base stat distributions that can be useful for whatever purpose.
Emboar has monster HP and the highest Attack of them all.
Infernape is the fastest of them all while having the lowest Attack and second highest special attack, however they all are rather high for attacking stats.
Blaziken is more all round for the three of them, but that's my interpretation.
Sure, there are three Fire/Fighting Types but that's all. What about all the Grass/Poison types or Normal/Flying types that are useless to battle with (coughFarfetch'dcough).
Since someone made a comment about Fire/Fighting being one of the only good combos for Fire, I decided to look up what Fire DOES pair with well (did this while avoiding homework). Note: I'm not a competitive battler, so I can't provide opinions from that standpoint. I'll start with the three we have. Sorry if this is a little long.
w = weak to, r = resists, i = immune to, * = both types weak/resistant to
Pure Fire: W: water, ground, rock. r: fire, grass, ice, bug, steel. i: none. Typhlosion.
Fire/Fighting: w: water, ground, flying, psychic. r: fire, grass, ice, bug*, dark, steel. i: none. Blaziken, Infernape, Emboar. Done 3 times, and the overall reason for this thread.
Fire/Flying: w: water, electric, rock*. r: fire, grass*, fighting, bug*, steel. i: ground. Charizard.
Now for some "new" stater type possibilities.
Fire/Water: Unless starters will suddenly start sharing the three main types with each other, this is unlikely, but anyway: w: electric, ground, rock. r: fire*, ice*, bug, steel*. i: none
Fire/Grass: like Fire/Water, unlikely that a starter will get another starters' type through evolving, but here it is anyway: W: poison, flying, rock. r: electric, grass*, steel. i: none.
More viable options.
Fire/Normal: Adds a fighting weakness and a ghost immunity. Otherwise, stays the same as pure Fire. Could be viable. I like it, anyway.
Fire/Electric: w: water, ground*, rock. r: fire, electric, grass, ice, flying, bug, steel*. i: none. The dual Ground weakness hurts, especially with how common Earthquake is, but that's the only weakness added. At least it could hit Waters back with STAB Electric moves.
Fire/Ice: w: fighting, ground, rock*. r: grass, ice*, bug. i: none. The large Stealth Rock weakness is the biggest problem here. Not that they're unwilling to have a starter face a large SR weakness (Charizard). At least it isn't hit by Hail . . .
Fire/Poison: w: water, ground*, psychic, rock. r: fire, grass*, ice, fighting, poison, bug*, steel. i: none, but immune to being inflicted with the Poison/Toxic condition. Duel Ground weakness doesn't look good, though.
Fire/Ground: w: water*, ground. r: fire, poison, bug, steel. i: electric. 4x Water weakness, but Stealth Rock weakness gets canceled out.
Fire/Psychic: w: water, ground, rock, ghost, dark. r: fire, grass, ice, fighting, psychic, steel. i: none. At least nothing doubles up . . .
Fire/Bug: w: water, flying, rock*. r: grass*, ice, fighting, bug, steel. i: none. Yeah, 4x rock again . . .
Fire/Rock: W: water*, fighting, ground*, rock. r: normal, fire*, ice, poison, flying, bug. i: none. This one doesn't look too good, 2 4x weaknesses and still weak to Rock.
Fire/Ghost: w: water, ground, rock, ghost, dark. r: fire, grass, ice, poison, bug*, steel. i: normal, fighting. Same weaknesses as Fire/Psychic, but at least it gets immunities.
Fire/Dragon: If they'd ever make a part-Dragon evolved starter, anyway. w: ground, rock, dragon. r: fire*, electric, grass*, bug, steel. i: none.
Fire/Dark: w: water, fighting, ground, rock. r: fire, grass, ice, ghost, dark, steel. i: psychic. Well, nothing doubles up in either weakness or resistance.
Fire/Steel: w: water, fighting, ground*. r: normal, grass* ice*, flying, psychic, bug*, ghost, dragon, dark, steel*. i: poison. While it has a 4x Ground weakness, the Stealth Rock weakness is canceled out (similar to Fire/Ground, just a different weakness magnified).
While Grass and Water have been pure-types the same amount as Fire/Fighting has appeared, I think F/F is more noticible because it's a dual type. There are some viable typings other than Fighting that don't look all that bad (I think Normal looks good, and maybe even electric, ground, steel, dark, and ghost). Once again, I don't battle competitively, so I don't know.
Personally, it doesn't bug me since I usually don't use the same starter type twice in a row for my first play through of a game, and I used Fire first recently, so I'll be picking a different starter. Just thought I'd throw this up for people who were curious.
Here's a little food or thought. I put this info in the Pokemon trivia section, but I guess I'll mention it here.
While the last three final evos of the starters are Fire/Fighting, the first two fire starter final evolutions had the exact same base stats.
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Fire/Fighting for the 3rd time straight? No kidding. Yeah I'm tired of it. On top of that two of the fire starters are monkey and pig. Seriously couldn't they find any other creatures other than those two filthy ones.
Anywho what happened to Charizard? How come it's still Fire/Flying, and not a Fire/Dragon? Blaziken got a speed boost or whatever, it's not fair.
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It didn't get a speed boost, it got the abillity Speed Boost, Charizard also got a new abillity, Solar Power, however that is not nearly as good as Speed Boost. Charizard would have been hugely owwerpowered as part Dragon anyway.
A little more on topic: Yeah I am tired of that, I am also tired of the pure Grass and Water starters, I think Emboar could easely have been part Dark and Daikenki Fighting.