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    I think you shouldn't put EV's in SpAtt because of HP Ice.
    I would divide them over Attack and Speed.
    Since you don't want to stay in on a Landorus anyway.

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    This is my team, please make improvements. dragon pulse crunch hyper voice ??? psychic hypnosis nightmare dream eater fly dragon claw stone edge crunch samourott surf ice beam slash mega horn
    I can't figure out hidreigon's last move, please help!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KoalaLover View Post
    This is my team, please make improvements. dragon pulse crunch hyper voice ??? psychic hypnosis nightmare dream eater fly dragon claw stone edge crunch samourott surf ice beam slash mega horn
    I can't figure out hidreigon's last move, please help!!!
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    OK i took some of your move sets for my hydriegon
    Hydriegon-Timid-@Life orb/Leftovers
    Ev's: Do not keep track but used some on HP,Spec. Attack, and speed
    Dragon Pulse
    Flamethrower
    Surf
    U-Turn

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    Empleon @ Choice Scarf
    EVs: 252 Hp / 248 SpD / 8 SpA
    Trait: Torrent
    Timid Nature
    - Hydro Pump
    - Ice Beam
    - Grass Knot
    - Scald / Hidden Power Rock / Ground

    My own Specially Defensive Emploeon, this thing is very scary on rain teams, its a great Revenge killer, a Hydro Pump in the rain + High Special Defense id nothing to **** around with

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    Put Flash Cannon in the last slot.
    Also, since you're running Choice Scarf, replace the SpDef EVs with SpAtt EVs.

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    Heracross @Flame Orb
    Trait: Guts
    Nature: Jolly
    EVs: 6 HP / 252 Attack / 252 Speed
    » Protect
    » Close Combat
    » MegaHorn
    » Earthquake / Night Slash
    ~ Pretty much Standard GustCross, I think I'm gonna change EQ for Night Slash to deal agains some Ghost who'd like to wall my Beatle D;

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimm94 View Post
    Put Flash Cannon in the last slot.
    Also, since you're running Choice Scarf, replace the SpDef EVs with SpAtt EVs.
    I want it be a "Bulky Choice Scrafer"

    And who uses Flash Cannon as an offensive move?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xx_BS-TyKi_xX View Post

    Heracross @Flame Orb
    Trait: Guts
    Nature: Jolly
    EVs: 6 HP / 252 Attack / 252 Speed
    » Protect
    » Close Combat
    » MegaHorn
    » Earthquake / Night Slash
    ~ Pretty much Standard GustCross, I think I'm gonna change EQ for Night Slash to deal agains some Ghost who'd like to wall my Beatle D;
    Looks okay to me...

    Quote Originally Posted by lucario44444444 View Post
    I want it be a "Bulky Choice Scrafer"

    And who uses Flash Cannon as an offensive move?
    Specially-minded Steel types, herp a derp durr...

    Am I the only one who thinks putting a Choice Scarf on a slow Pokemon with no Speed investment seems silly? The Pokemon itself looks fine, but change the item or invest in Speed, one or the other.

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    Dragonite @ Choice Specs
    Ability: Multiscales
    EVs: 6hp /252SpAtk /252 SPD
    Nature: Jolly
    - Hurricane
    - Thunder
    - Draco Meotor
    - Surf.

    This Dragonite set is to suprise people. No one ever espects a choice specs-nite. Hurricane is perfect accuricy, STAB plus a chance to confuse. Draco Meotor is used to revenge kill and second STAB. Thunder is rain is perfect accurcy plus a chance to paralyze. Surf is filler plus it gets boosted in the rain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lucarioisawesome View Post
    Dragonite @ Choice Specs
    Ability: Multiscales
    EVs: 6hp /252SpAtk /252 SPD
    Nature: Jolly
    - Hurricane
    - Thunder
    - Draco Meotor
    - Surf.

    This Dragonite set is to suprise people. No one ever espects a choice specs-nite. Hurricane is perfect accuricy, STAB plus a chance to confuse. Draco Meotor is used to revenge kill and second STAB. Thunder is rain is perfect accurcy plus a chance to paralyze. Surf is filler plus it gets boosted in the rain.
    Maybe not the most effective way of running a Dragonite, but like you say, no one would expect it. Seems like a fun gimmick. Obviously you'd have to run it in rain, but if you can assure that, it looks viable enough. Nice set.

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    Check this set out.

    Rampardos@focus sash
    ability: mold breaker
    nat: brave
    EVs: 252hp/252atk/4spatk
    moves:
    Head smash/stone edge
    screech
    zen headbutt
    endeavor/avalanche
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    You fail this is a proper rampardos set
    Rampardos @ Choice Scarf
    EVS: 252 speed 252 atk 4 hp
    nature jolly
    moves
    Head smash
    Pursuit
    Zen headbutt
    fire punch

    + The # 1 troll
    cottonee @ focus sash
    0 ivs
    no evs
    moves Leech seed substitute protect
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    Quote Originally Posted by takbir10 View Post
    OK i took some of your move sets for my hydriegon
    Hydriegon-Timid-@Life orb/Leftovers
    Ev's: Do not keep track but used some on HP,Spec. Attack, and speed
    Dragon Pulse
    Flamethrower
    Surf
    U-Turn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Usatoday View Post
    You fail this is a proper rampardos set
    Rampardos @ Choice Scarf
    EVS: 252 speed 252 atk 4 hp
    nature jolly
    moves
    Head smash
    Pursuit
    Zen headbutt
    fire punch

    + The # 1 troll
    cottonee @ focus sash
    0 ivs
    no evs
    moves Leech seed substitute protect
    Actually, run Earthquake>Zen headbutt so you don't fail.


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    Quote Originally Posted by takbir10 View Post
    OK i took some of your move sets for my hydriegon
    Hydriegon-Timid-@Life orb/Leftovers
    Ev's: Do not keep track but used some on HP,Spec. Attack, and speed
    Dragon Pulse
    Flamethrower
    Surf
    U-Turn
    Was this bred by you? If it was, why no dark pulse or earth power? It's weird to see a timid hydreigon run u-turn as well, considering that timid lowers attack.

    Except u-turn, i run the exact same set. Dragon pulse and flamethrower hits the majority of the game for neutral damage and surf hits those that resist that combo. So, not bad of a set man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucarioisawesome View Post
    Dragonite @ Choice Specs
    Ability: Multiscales
    EVs: 6hp /252SpAtk /252 SPD
    Nature: Jolly
    - Hurricane
    - Thunder
    - Draco Meotor
    - Surf.

    This Dragonite set is to suprise people. No one ever espects a choice specs-nite. Hurricane is perfect accuricy, STAB plus a chance to confuse. Draco Meotor is used to revenge kill and second STAB. Thunder is rain is perfect accurcy plus a chance to paralyze. Surf is filler plus it gets boosted in the rain.
    What's with the Jolly nature? You're running a Special set, so go for Timid to boost Speed.

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    I'm only covering one, because it's one of my only constants that isn't widely used.

    Hydreigon @ Dragon Gem
    Ability: Levitate
    EVs: 252 SAtk, 252 Spd, 6 HP

    Moves:
    Draco Meteor
    Flamethrower
    Surf
    U-turn

    This set is good for two things: coverage, and as a secret weapon. With the Dragon Gem, Draco Meteor, and SAtk EVs combined, my old friend's Draco Meteor has OHKO'd Steel types. After this is used, however, a shift may be required, so U-turn is used on the turn after Draco Meteor to get the Special Attack back. Flamethrower and Surf are good on quite a few Pokemon that are strong against some of the other team members I use, like Excadrill or Emboar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonah the Great View Post
    I'm only covering one, because it's one of my only constants that isn't widely used.

    Hydreigon @ Dragon Gem
    Ability: Levitate
    EVs: 252 SAtk, 252 Spd, 6 HP

    Moves:
    Draco Meteor
    Flamethrower
    Surf
    U-turn

    This set is good for two things: coverage, and as a secret weapon. With the Dragon Gem, Draco Meteor, and SAtk EVs combined, my old friend's Draco Meteor has OHKO'd Steel types. After this is used, however, a shift may be required, so U-turn is used on the turn after Draco Meteor to get the Special Attack back. Flamethrower and Surf are good on quite a few Pokemon that are strong against some of the other team members I use, like Excadrill or Emboar.
    For the both of you, i'd recommend tri attack or hyper voice instead of u-turn. Staying in to u-turn may let someone get in a final mach punch and vacuum wave that will OHKO you won't be worth it.

    As for you, if you want to use draco meteor and then stay in, use a white herb instead of a dragon gem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dewhinifier View Post
    For the both of you, i'd recommend tri attack or hyper voice instead of u-turn. Staying in to u-turn may let someone get in a final mach punch and vacuum wave that will OHKO you won't be worth it.

    As for you, if you want to use draco meteor and then stay in, use a white herb instead of a dragon gem.
    Honestly, just use Focus Blast to hit his hard counters better as well as increase is SE coverage.
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    Trollagon (Hydreigon) (M) @ Life Orb
    Trait: Levitate
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Dragon Pulse
    - Fire Blast
    - Dark Pulse
    - U-turn

    This is will troll your team a lot and give it some problem. Dragon Pulse and Fire Blast for STAB. Dark Pulse for coverage. U-turn for safely from Blissey.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSuperZekrom View Post
    Trollagon (Hydreigon) (M) @ Life Orb
    Trait: Levitate
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Dragon Pulse
    - Fire Blast
    - Dark Pulse
    - U-turn

    This is will troll your team a lot and give it some problem. Dragon Pulse and Fire Blast for STAB. Dark Pulse for coverage. U-turn for safely from Blissey.

    Quote Originally Posted by dewhinifier View Post
    Was this bred by you? If it was, why no dark pulse or earth power? It's weird to see a timid hydreigon run u-turn as well, considering that timid lowers attack.

    Except u-turn, i run the exact same set. Dragon pulse and flamethrower hits the majority of the game for neutral damage and surf hits those that resist that combo. So, not bad of a set man.
    Quote Originally Posted by dewhinifier View Post
    For the both of you, i'd recommend tri attack or hyper voice instead of u-turn. Staying in to u-turn may let someone get in a final mach punch and vacuum wave that will OHKO you won't be worth it.

    As for you, if you want to use draco meteor and then stay in, use a white herb instead of a dragon gem.
    Basically, get rid of u-turn. Use surf over it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dewhinifier View Post
    For the both of you, i'd recommend tri attack or hyper voice instead of u-turn. Staying in to u-turn may let someone get in a final mach punch and vacuum wave that will OHKO you won't be worth it.
    Tri Attack or Hyper Voice...what? I honestly can't think of any situation where I'd want either of those moves on my Hydreigon. U-Turn is fine. It's one of the tools that Hydreigon has over its fellow Dragons, and it's invaluable as a momentum-gaining utility. I don't see why you're so hasty to get rid of it. :\

    @Jonah the Great: I'd personally use Life Orb over Dragon Gem on that set. For one, Dragon Gem is a 1 time use, so two Life Orb attacks outweighs the benefits from the Dragon Gem. You also mentioned that it helps Draco Meteor to OHKO some Steel types, but you already have Flamethrower for that and Surf for Heatran, so you should be set against those.

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    Jolteon@Life Orb/Leftovers
    Nature: Timid
    EV's: 252 hp 116 sp. atk 140 speed
    Ability: Volt absorb

    1. Wish
    2. Protect
    3. Thunderbolt
    4. Hidden Power (ice)

    Yup! It's a jolteon with wish! Now you may think, "that's the stupidest thing i could ever think of." But, it can pass fairly large wishes, and more importantly, it heals half it's health. The ev's are meant to have big wishes. He also outspeeds max base 116's, and i pooled the rest into sp. attack. T-bolt and hp ice provide nice coverage. He can still pass wishes to things like gengar and he will heal about 75% of health.


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