little bit off there mate as you can get 0 IV's in a stat but otherwise correct
also looking random pokemon again and thought of this:
lopunny@choice band
adamant,not klutz
252 Atk, 252 Spd, 4 Hp
-return
-drain punch/jump kick
-thunder punch
-ice punch
most powerful the poor bunny can be using return for stab, a fighting move to hit ghosts and steels, final 2 moves are to provide perfect coverage obviously not klutz otherwise choice band is pointless.
fling at a physical sweeper to burn them and then sweep. simple really either last resort only for normal type mega damage or return with recovery and element punch for more coverage.
Standard protocol is to run Zweilous with Eviolite and 252 HP/252 Att/4 Def. Otherwise, it can't survive UU. Forget about using Zweilous in OU. He wouldn't survive
I was about add that you could other wise use something better, like dragonite, salamence, haxorus, etc.
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Well, I got around to check the Serebii page for pokemon from the new DW update. I see some interesting Pokemon with there DW abilities released, and I felt I need to post some sets.
Mr. Mime has a lot of weak Special moves that would love a boost from Technician. Psychic is its main STAB and no other Psychic move can really benefit from technician without having a weaker damage output that Psychic. Icy Wind + Thunderbolt makes the Boltbeam coverage, but Charge Beam is also acceptable due to its effect of boosting Sp.Att. Magical Leaf and Grass Knot are simply based off of your preferences. Magical Leaf allows for a powerful Base 90 Grass move to hit Bulky waters, while Grass Knot allows for a strong attack regardless of weight due to Technician boosting the Base Power when up against lighter pokemon.
I feel this set is probably the best at recreating the Tickling Wobbuffet phenomenon. It can come in on dedicated walls such as Chansey, Dusclops, Deoxys, and Registeel and Leer them to death. Just come in with a Pursuiter and just get rid of them. Mean Look them, Taunt them on the next turn, and Leer them to -6, switch out, and use Pursuit. I see there are huge flaws between the Mean Look turn and the Taunt turn as there will be a chance that Sableye will get hit with a status move, but in the end it benefits the team by removing the whole Defensive core of the team so sweepers can take out the remaining portions of the team.
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Let me stop you right there. Why is it "not an option?" I have never done anything with any of the DW crap, but I have a DW Slowking on my team. I traded for a DW Slowpoke, bred it, and got my Slowking. Why can't you just trade for a sire?
I'm not positive that the gender on that Dratini is not set. I think you'd have an easier time just trying to breed it in from something else.
My suggestion would be not to try and improve on him; my suggestion would be to breed a new one. Pick whatever set from that link I posted before is most applicable to your team.
No EVs/IVs. Technically you also aren't asking us to rate your set, you're asking us to rate your specific instance of your Dragonite. This would be more of a question for the Questions thread, since you aren't willing to breed new Dragonite with better IVs, blank EVs or Multiscale.
O_O no need to be getting all hostile...I thought I made it clear I'm new at the whole IV/EV/competitive breeding thing, but that in no way implies an unwillingness to learn and do. I do believe this is the Rate Singles thread so a specific instance of "is this guy half way decent" would be appropriate here (which is basically what I did).
I would love a DW ability dragon, but I can't get my hands on one...not seeing any on offer and not high enough in my account to go hunt for one so RIGHT NOW it's not an option. Since 1st round regionals is 6 weeks off I don't think I'll have one ready in time, and I doubt I'll have one for Spring either. (and it wouldn't be a sire, but a dam as the FEMALE passes the ability - I do know that much at least).
Per gender on ES Dratini: a number of people have posted SRing for a male and some got it on the first try. Breeding for ES won't work with my female as there aren't any compatible parents (someone told me Ditto fail).
What on earth gave you the idea I wasn't willing to breed for better stats? even my first post on the subject stated "breeding is an option" - just not for DW ability.
"Better" can be clarified, however...I enjoy the moveset greatly, almost as much as I enjoy the fact of it being "non-standard". As such I'd like to keep Tbolt, Ice Beam, EQ, flamethrower and use it for VGC. I have stat munchies (HP up, etc) and stat reducing berries so what would be the best case scenario, with what limited stat eval I have available, to make the male be the best he can be?
One alternative I am looking at is a whole new dragon (that needs be caught/bred first):
Mild or Hasty, maybe with top IV in HP
Inner Focus (unless I get a DW in the next 48 hours)
Expert Belt or Life Orb
tbolt/ice beam/EQ/flamethrower
either 64 Atk / 192 Spd / 252 SAtk or 4 Atk / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk (mild)
or 56 Atk / 200 Spd / 252 SAtk (Hasty)
generally it's gonna be getting hit with electric or ice and those tend to be more SD damaging so I don't want to hinder that. and of course I have to figure out how to do up ev's properly as I somehow keep messing it up even with "munchies" O_o (my math is off somewhere...)
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Even with that EV spread, Volcarona is able to do quite damage, boosting up Special stats and Speed with QD, then hitting with his two STAB moves. Morning Sun + Leftovers for recovery. Preferrably to use in a Sun team, boosting Fiery Dance's power and Morning Sun's recovery.
Even with that EV spread, Volcarona is able to do quite damage, boosting up Special stats and Speed with QD, then hitting with his two STAB moves. Morning Sun + Leftovers for recovery. Preferrably to use in a Sun team, boosting Fiery Dance's power and Morning Sun's recovery.
I do like the idea but would instead go with calm nature, 252 sp def, and 4 def maybe
I do like the idea but would instead go with calm nature, 252 sp def, and 4 def maybe
Nope, that's the thing, Volcarona has 60 Defense and 105 Sp. Defense.
Sp. Defense is powered up by Quiver Dance, so you have to max its Defense so he can take lots of hits. If you want, you can give him the last 4 EVs in Sp. Defense instead of Speed.
Nope, that's the thing, Volcarona has 60 Defense and 105 Sp. Defense.
Sp. Defense is powered up by Quiver Dance, so you have to max its Defense so he can take lots of hits. If you want, you can give him the last 4 EVs in Sp. Defense instead of Speed.
I'm inclined to say that Bug/Fire inherently prevents it from being defensive in the least, but nothing about the set itself looks wrong per se. Try it out and see how it works I guess, because I can't improve it without changing the species.
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Even with that EV spread, Volcarona is able to do quite damage, boosting up Special stats and Speed with QD, then hitting with his two STAB moves. Morning Sun + Leftovers for recovery. Preferrably to use in a Sun team, boosting Fiery Dance's power and Morning Sun's recovery.
Exactly the set I'm running. The extra defense while being obvious for overall suvivability, also helps take a hit and inflict burn with flame body. Though until i Level it up to Lv 100 i am settling for flamethrower.
^A counter to what? Not trying to be mean or anything, but your set is horrible the ev's are pointless and the nature is bad. Emboar is really bad. Use Blaziken or Infernape.
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I've been doing some research and have found with an evoilite servine is superior (I puned) to serperior in all stats (besides hp wich isn't boostedby evoilite) so I made 5 sets (for every stat)
this set is pretty simple glare is for paralysation giving him 75% chance of attacking. leaf tornado is stab and has a 50% chance of lowering their accuracy for more annoyance. leech seed so they're slowly being killed as they keep failing to hit me. coil would be useful as my defence will be higher so if they hit it won't do as much and accuracy boost so leaf tornado will be more likely to hit and calm mind is useful (see first reason for special) and will up the power of the stab move.
servine
spa sweeper
evs:252 spa 252 spe 4 hp
nature: timid
@evolite
calm mind
energy ball
hp (ice)
twister
A special sweeper. unfortunatly he doesn't have much to work with. calm mind for set up energy ball for stab hp ice is for some coverage and twister for more coverage. it also helps against bouncers or idiot flyers
physical sweeper
evs: 252 atk 252 spe 4 hp
nature: jolly
@evolite
coil
leaf blade
iron tail
return
again not much to work with but it has stronger attacks. coil for setup also helping with the accuracy of iron tail which is used as a strong move with SOME coverage. leaf blade for stab and return for coverage.
Personally I like the Special wall Servine best but if I had to pick another I would have to pick the special sweeper. If you decide to use the wall though add the four extra Evs to Sp Atk definitely.
And so here are my interesting sets for Relicanth. I've noticed that Relicanth can be a BEAST if you train him right so I want to know if I should go for a physical wall or a physical sweeper.
Sweeper
Relicanth @ Life Orb
Nature: Adamant
Ability: Rock Head
Evs: +252 Atk +100 Def +156 HP
Head Smash
Waterfall
Stealth Rock
Rock Polish
This set requires Rock Polish to be more efficient but if successfully setup this set can wreak havoc on my opponents. Although the Life Orb may seem a little overkill. Thoughts?
Wall
Relicanth @ Leftovers
Nature: Impish
Ability: Rock Head/Swift Swim/Sturdy
Evs: +252 HP +252 Def +4 Atk
Dive
Stealth Rock
Swagger / Toxic
Harden / Facade
This set is actually quite reliable since Reli doesn't take much damage from physical attacks. The swagger and harden go together so that I can survive attacks if the confusion doesn't come through for me. Otherwise, Toxic and Facade go together. Facade because I couldn;t thin of anything else and is a good just-in case counter for annoying status conditions. Toughts?
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Eelekrossssss is a wallbreaker, tank, and trick room abuser all wrapped up in one. Coil boosts attack, defense, and accuracy, which is always useful. Wild charge is reliable stab. Grass knot takes out swampert, gastro, and quag. Flamethrower takes out Ferrothorn and Scizor. Quiet nature is because if I do rash, his special bulk will be ruined. Leftovers helps offset damage from wild charge to get set up more coils.
So this is another coil set. Coil also boosts accuracy, which helps out thunder. Dragon claw is physical for dragons. Acrobatics is a cool move that murders fighting types. Tell me which set you like better.
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Eelekrossssss is a wallbreaker, tank, and trick room abuser all wrapped up in one. Coil boosts attack, defense, and accuracy, which is always useful. Wild charge is reliable stab. Grass knot takes out swampert, gastro, and quag. Flamethrower takes out Ferrothorn and Scizor. Quiet nature is because if I do rash, his special bulk will be ruined. Leftovers helps offset damage from wild charge to get set up more coils.
So this is another coil set. Coil also boosts accuracy, which helps out thunder. Dragon claw is physical for dragons. Acrobatics is a cool move that murders fighting types. Tell me which set you like better.
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little bit off there mate as you can get 0 IV's in a stat but otherwise correct
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