Competitive Single Rates - READ FIRST POST

[SomeoneIGuess]

With a Flying Gem, 165 Base Power. The game removes the Gem first then checks for an item.
Without an Item, 110.

[floatzel98]

oh thats how it work's. so your so much better off going with the gem

[cheeselord]

Yup, with stab it is pretty much a free KO .

[Zorua1]

Hey, I am quite new to competitive battling and I am looking for some help on my Genesect which I am basing my team around

Genesect
Item: Life Orb
Ability: Download
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 Sp Atk / 252 Spd / 4 Sp Def
- Rock Polish
- Bug Buzz
- Ice Beam
- Hidden Power Ground

Genesect comes in on a physical wall to get the Download boost and sets up Rock Polish for a sweep. I chose Bug Buzz as his because of STAB and to hit Dark, Psychic and Grass types, Ice Beam is to hit Ground, Flying, Bug, Grass ,and Dragon types. Last is HP Ground to hit Fire, Steel , Rock , Poison and Electric types, Its also there to hit Heatran and Chandelure who would usually wall it. The EVs and item are for max speed and sp atk so he can hit hard and fast.

[SomeoneIGuess]

In other words, when you're making a Archeops set, Acrobatics + Flying Gem + STAB + Your godly attack = free KO.

Speaking of which...

Archeops @ Flying Gem
Ability: Defeatist
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Acrobatics
- Earthquake
- U-Turn
- Rock Slide

I know this is standard and all, but anyone know any better moves for triples?

Hey, I am quite new to competitive battling and I am looking for some help on my Genesect which I am basing my team around

Genesect
Item: Life Orb
Ability: Download
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 Sp Atk / 252 Spd / 4 Sp Def
- Rock Polish
- Bug Buzz
- Ice Beam
- Hidden Power Ground

Genesect comes in on a physical wall to get the Download boost and sets up Rock Polish for a sweep. I chose Bug Buzz as his because of STAB and to hit Dark, Psychic and Grass types, Ice Beam is to hit Ground, Flying, Bug, Grass ,and Dragon types. Last is HP Ground to hit Fire, Steel , Rock , Poison and Electric types, Its also there to hit Heatran and Chandelure who would usually wall it. The EVs and item are for max speed and sp atk so he can hit hard and fast.

Run Bug Buzz, Ice Beam and Thunderbolt. And replace Rock polish with Flame Charge to actually do something to Ferrothorn while still nabbing that boost. But If you don't run Flame Charge, Flamethrower in the last slot. Unless your team can handle Ferro.

[cheeselord]

Have you thought of a mixed set? It has good spatk too.

[SomeoneIGuess]

What options does it have other than Earth power on a mixed set?
(Okay it has Focus Blast but Earthquake hits about the same coverage anyway)

The only Special moves worth running on a physcial / mixed sweeper in my opinion is something to hit physical walls, like Ice, or Fire typed moves.

[Zorua1]

Run Bug Buzz, Ice Beam and Thunderbolt. And replace Rock polish with Flame Charge to actually do something to Ferrothorn while still nabbing that boost. But If you don't run Flame Charge, Flamethrower in the last slot. Unless your team can handle Ferro.

Hmm I don't really wanna run Thunderbolt since the only thing that its hitting that Ice Beam doesn't cover is Water which my team can handle and taking away HP Ground means it just gets walled by Chandelure and Heatran all day long. About flame charge over rock polish I might change that but it seams as a waste seeing as I have a -Attack nature and only giving me a +1 Boost instead of +2

[cheeselord]

Maybe just HP fire/ice?

[SomeoneIGuess]

Eh whatever. You need Thunderbolt for hitting bulky waters, otherwise you get walled. Thats: Suicune, Vaporeon, Gyarados, whatever is a water type who is considered bulky.

HP? Might as well dump a Nidoking there and abuse Gravity + Blizzard + Fire Blast + EQ... or something. Wow no wonder there's Hone Claws and sweet scent

[Zorua1]

Eh whatever. You need Thunderbolt for hitting bulky waters, otherwise you get walled. Thats: Suicune, Vaporeon, Gyarados, whatever is a water type who is considered bulky.

HP? Might as well dump a Nidoking there and abuse Gravity + Blizzard + Fire Blast + EQ... or something. Wow no wonder there's Hone Claws and sweet scent

I can see your point about bulky water types but other wise I get walled by ST Chandelure which basically give the other team a free KO seeing as how common Chandelure is, I could drop Bug Buzz for the Boltbeam combo but not to sure if loosing STAB and being able to KO Psychic and Dark types is worth it.

Nidoking doesn't seem all that good to me. He needs gravity support and second he doesn't have very good Speed and Sp Atk. Sheer force and Life Orb is good but Genesect out classes him by having Download, WAY better typing and better defenses, while still keeping the secondary effects of his attacks.

[Throhlurk]

use electric techno buster or ice techno Buster or fire techno Buster

[Zorua1]

use electric techno buster or ice techno Buster or fire techno Buster

They are out classed by Flamethrower, Thunderbolt and Ice Beam. The only reason you would use it is for the water Techno Buster but thats out classed by HP Water by having more PP and getting an item like Life Orb which makes it more powerful than it anyway..

[cheeselord]

Thunderbolt, ice beam and flamethrower are better...

Edit: ninjad...

[toawest1]

gigalith(well right now its a boldore)@ read below
Ability:sturdy
EVs: read below
MODEST Nature [+Sp.Atk, -attack]
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ok i know the first thing you are going to say is the nature is wrong but the only reason I'm using this nature is the boldore is shiny so i want to EV train it and make it as good as possible to battle
so i need good moves,EV,and held item suggestions

P.S. IT'S A FEMALE sooooo.........?

[cheeselord]

Unlucky dude that's probably the worst nature a boldore could have...

[toawest1]

Unlucky dude that's probably the worst nature a boldore could have...

i know but i want to make the best out of it so help please

[cheeselord]

The only special moves he learns are mudslap, power gem, hidden power, hyper beam, solar beam (randomly), round and flash cannon. All I can think of is a bulky specs set but that would still deal pathetic amounts of damage.

Realy I would catch a new one, it being shiny isn't realy that good competativly.

[toawest1]

The only special moves he learns are mudslap, power gem, hidden power, hyper beam, solar beam (randomly), round and flash cannon. All I can think of is a bulky specs set but that would still deal pathetic amounts of damage.

Realy I would catch a new one, it being shiny isn't realy that good competativly.

well I'm not really going to use in to many battles i just want to make the best as it can be,I mean its a shiny,i only have 3 and all of them are bad natures but they are also stupid pokemon like my shiny unkown.
serebii says that that with a hindering nature it will get 332 attack and with a beneficial nature its Sp.Atk will only get to 240(that is with max EVs and IVs)so not going to use Sp.Atk,i was thinking more along the line of using hp,defense,or something

so basically i want to make the best as possible,no going it to many battles

[cheeselord]

Try a standard curse set but with power gem for a surprise attack.