Eventhought it sounds like a "cheap" combo or ban material it is perfectly allowed, but I got to ask, is it even possible to do this combo? I mean is there any poke with shadow tag that learns perish song?
No, there aren't, but you'll get what I meant, read down this.
Originally Posted by sdfsdfj
Shadow tag is impossible, but mean look might work just as well, provided you can have mean look and perish song on the same pokemon.
What I was intended to do is this (example): my Altaria uses Perish Song, then I switch into Wobbuffet with Shadow Tag and hope it stands for three turns.
I have a team of five here, not sure what to do for my final 'mon. Something that resists Fire would be good, seeing as that's Bronzong's only weakness (and Scizor's major weakness), as well as Froslass'. I have nothing to benefit from/counter Rain, maybe a Gastrodon would be good then, resisting FIre and having Storm Drain? Then again, Salamence resists Fire well. And I lack supers against Ghost and Psychic, maybe a Dark type would be good? Or an Excadrill with X-Scissor? Not sure i a wall or sweeper, or something else, would be good for the last spot.
Spoiler:- The team::
Froslass
EV spread: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Ability: Snow Cloak
Item: Leftovers
Nature: Timid
Moves:
- Spikes
- Taunt
- Ice Beam
- Destiny Bond
Taunt opponent's setup starter, Spikes, then Destiny Bond for setup and easy kill or free switch. Ice Beam for enemy taunters (though few are faster than her..). Also blocks potential Rapid Spin.
Togekiss
EV spread: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Ability: Serene Grace
Item: Leftovers
Nature: Calm
Moves:
- Aura Sphere
- Air Slash
- Thunder Wave
- Roost
Most annoying thing, ever. Paraflinch for the epic win.
Mixed DD Sweeper, enough said. Should I go for Life Orb and Roost instead of Fire Blast, btw? Or just Life Orb?
Bronzong
EV spread: 252 HP / 84 Atk / 80 Def / 92 SpD
Ability: Levitate
Item: Leftovers
Nature: Sassy
Moves:
- Stealth Rock
- Gyro Ball
- Toxic
- Earthquake
I was told Earthquake is very important for taking down Excadrill, otherwise, this guy sets up SR (which massively helps Scizor when it comes to finishing off with SD/Bullet Punch), Gyro Balls and poisons the enemy into submission. Any alternatives would be good.
Scizor
EV spread: 252 HP / 40 Atk / 216 SpD
Ability: Technician
Item: Leftovers
Nature: Adamant
Moves:
- Swords Dance
- Bullet Punch
- Superpower
- Roost
Bulky SD set. Bullet Punch for STAB (also a good counter to Ice types that threaten Salamence), Superpower for pesky counters (Heatran and Skarmory, looking at you..) to a Bug/Steel set. Roost equals more Bulk. Thinking this guy could be a nice bulky sweeper late-game.
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I have a team of five here, not sure what to do for my final 'mon. Something that resists Fire would be good, seeing as that's Bronzong's only weakness (and Scizor's major weakness), as well as Froslass'. I have nothing to benefit from/counter Rain, maybe a Gastrodon would be good then, resisting FIre and having Storm Drain? Then again, Salamence resists Fire well. And I lack supers against Ghost and Psychic, maybe a Dark type would be good? Or an Excadrill with X-Scissor? Not sure i a wall or sweeper, or something else, would be good for the last spot.
Spoiler:- The team::
Froslass
EV spread: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Ability: Snow Cloak
Item: Leftovers
Nature: Timid
Moves:
- Spikes
- Taunt
- Ice Beam
- Destiny Bond
Taunt opponent's setup starter, Spikes, then Destiny Bond for setup and easy kill or free switch. Ice Beam for enemy taunters (though few are faster than her..). Also blocks potential Rapid Spin.
Togekiss
EV spread: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Ability: Serene Grace
Item: Leftovers
Nature: Calm
Moves:
- Aura Sphere
- Air Slash
- Thunder Wave
- Roost
Most annoying thing, ever. Paraflinch for the epic win.
Mixed DD Sweeper, enough said. Should I go for Life Orb and Roost instead of Fire Blast, btw? Or just Life Orb?
Bronzong
EV spread: 252 HP / 84 Atk / 80 Def / 92 SpD
Ability: Levitate
Item: Leftovers
Nature: Sassy
Moves:
- Stealth Rock
- Gyro Ball
- Toxic
- Earthquake
I was told Earthquake is very important for taking down Excadrill, otherwise, this guy sets up SR (which massively helps Scizor when it comes to finishing off with SD/Bullet Punch), Gyro Balls and poisons the enemy into submission. Any alternatives would be good.
Scizor
EV spread: 252 HP / 40 Atk / 216 SpD
Ability: Technician
Item: Leftovers
Nature: Adamant
Moves:
- Swords Dance
- Bullet Punch
- Superpower
- Roost
Bulky SD set. Bullet Punch for STAB (also a good counter to Ice types that threaten Salamence), Superpower for pesky counters (Heatran and Skarmory, looking at you..) to a Bug/Steel set. Roost equals more Bulk. Thinking this guy could be a nice bulky sweeper late-game.
Bulky water is your call, vaporeon, swampert, suicune, jellicent, etc. I would recommend vaporeond since you can wish support some team members that dont have a relliable way of recovery or suffers from recoil like your salamance your scizor or you bronzong.
Edit: Oh yes forgot to mention that vaporeon also has the Water absorb abilty making it inmune to water, which could help you counter a rain abuser, but if countering rain is very important to you go with gastrodon.
Finnaly Vaporeon can learn shadow ball which solves you psychic and ghost issue, gastrodon could use Hidden Power but still vaporeon has more Sp. Atk
Last edited by pkmnswampmaster; 5th October 2011 at 1:36 PM.
Bulky water is your call, vaporeon, swampert, suicune, jellicent, etc. I would recommend vaporeond since you can wish support some team members that dont have a relliable way of recovery or suffers from recoil like your salamance your scizor or you bronzong
Thanks a lot (:
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In LC my current lead is a Chimchar, its strategy is to set stealth rocks and possibly KO the opponent but I feel that I could have a better lead, any suggestion?
In LC my current lead is a Chimchar, its strategy is to set stealth rocks and possibly KO the opponent but I feel that I could have a better lead, any suggestion?
Pokemon A and Pokemon B are battling. A's command is to switch out, B's command is to use Pursuit. A will move first, attempt to switch out, and Pursuit will catch him on the switch and increase in power. We all know that's how Pursuit works.
However, let's suppose now A's command was to use U-turn or Volt Switch, and that A has higher speed. A attacks, then tries to switch out; does Pursuit still catch him on the switch even thought it was a switch via an attack?
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Let's say I'm in a rotation battle. Espeon uses wish, then it's teammate rotates in. Will it's teammate be effected by wish?
However, let's suppose now A's command was to use U-turn or Volt Switch, and that A has higher speed. A attacks, then tries to switch out; does Pursuit still catch him on the switch even thought it was a switch via an attack?
@ChaosBlizzard pursuit will hit for normal damage, its effect only works for regular switches, actually thats why snogon recommended those kinda moves on pokemon weak to trappers.
@Zachmac I been tolda that it works, however I havent tested it myself
@MetalFlygon08 Except for poliwag they seems to be very bad moves, psyduck woukd get confused cous he lacks Own Tempo and Nidoking/queen dont really get the best of it, but politoed would abuse it plus with drizzle its a excellent lead.
My math is completely futzed...I'm missing something in my Ev calculations and I have no clue what it is. I'm new to this still and someone who could basically tutor me would be greatly appreciated..
and I have read the giudes on Serebii, Smogon, and everywhere else I can find....right now my math says my egg has 314Ev Spd and I know that can't be right....
I did note what I put on it as this was my practice mom for learning how to EV via stat item, but obviously I messed up somewhere....(it does rate as maxed out from the in game girl).
edit: and I have 2 others with total Evs in excess of 700 and still not maxed O_O
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My math is completely futzed...I'm missing something in my Ev calculations and I have no clue what it is. I'm new to this still and someone who could basically tutor me would be greatly appreciated..
and I have read the giudes on Serebii, Smogon, and everywhere else I can find....right now my math says my egg has 314Ev Spd and I know that can't be right....
I did note what I put on it as this was my practice mom for learning how to EV via stat item, but obviously I messed up somewhere....(it does rate as maxed out from the in game girl).
edit: and I have 2 others with total Evs in excess of 700 and still not maxed O_O
pokecheckwhen in doubt about your evs and even ivs try this.
They're not hacked ::sigh:: I started with a raw mon and put a bunch of stat items and wings and junk on it....when I tried to add up what EV's it all equaled my numbers came out too high...not sure where I went wrong...
do you want me to list what I put on and maybe someone can tell me where I failed to add up?
edit: list
stat - item - # used (total EV's given)
HP - HP Up - 10 (100) total Health given = 102
HP - Health Wing - 2 (2) plus PKRS = 204
SA - Calcium - 10 (100) total SA given = 102
SA - Genius Wing - 2 (2) plus PKRS = 204
SD - Zinc - 10 (100) total SD given = 100
SD - clever wing - 0 (0) plus PKRS = 200
Spd - Carbos - 10 (100) total speed given = 157
Spd - Swift wing - 1 (1) plus PKRS = 314
Spd - Basculin - 28 (56)
total combined = 922 O_O
No items attached to impact, just PKRS....fwiw it's a DW exeggcute. I ran the raw lvl 10 stats though the IV calculator and it came up:
0-9/10-19/0-9/0-9/10-19/31
32/14/18/18/15/16 raw UT stats @ lvl 10
55/22/30/34/27/34 post EVing @ lvl 18 ("max effort" comment)
Mild/alert to sounds/"decent overall"/speed "can't be better"
think that's everything.....where'd I go wrong? (and remember: this egg was to help me learn how to EV properly as I keep messing it up -- obviously I have more to learn)
Last edited by Pokemom; 7th October 2011 at 3:47 AM.
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^^^ In other words, EV-Boosting items don't add extra evs when using vitamins/wings. Vitamins still give 10 each, regardless of what Item your holding. Same with 1 EV wings.
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