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    How do I select a Lead for a competitive battling team?
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    Quote Originally Posted by azeem40 View Post
    How do I select a Lead for a competitive battling team?
    Leads don't exist in gen 5.. you put it first in the party.


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    Then how am I supposed to make a competitive team?
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    Quote Originally Posted by azeem40 View Post
    Then how am I supposed to make a competitive team?
    Well for one, we can't just give you a team.

    What is your Team? Maybe that way it will be easier for us to help you.


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    I have no team yet. I just don't know how to start tem building.
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    Quote Originally Posted by azeem40 View Post
    I have no team yet. I just don't know how to start tem building.
    Hmm... Is there a Pokemon that you would like to use?

    (It does not have to be in a certain tier, it can be your favorite Pokemon if you so wish)


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    Dragonite has always been my favorite Pokemon. I have used it in every generation of Pokemon. I looked at some sets on smogon, but I don't want to just use a standard set because a lot of people base their counters on those sets. I'd like to learn to make a non-standard, yet non-gimmick set for a Pokemon. I also used to know how to make custom EVs, about leftovers numbers, speed tiers, attack, def tiers, etc, but have forgotten how to do so. Any help would really be appreciated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by azeem40 View Post
    Dragonite has always been my favorite Pokemon. I have used it in every generation of Pokemon. I looked at some sets on smogon, but I don't want to just use a standard set because a lot of people base their counters on those sets. I'd like to learn to make a non-standard, yet non-gimmick set for a Pokemon. I also used to know how to make custom EVs, about leftovers numbers, speed tiers, attack, def tiers, etc, but have forgotten how to do so. Any help would really be appreciated.
    I'm fairly good with custom EVs if I actually put effort into it. I'll just have to mess with the speed tier list and a damage calculator.

    Hm......there are plenty of rain tank sets, but imagine how hard that Dragon could hit with Hurricane when using choice specs. Draco Meteor/Hurricane/Thunder/Filler, perhaps? I'll go play with a calc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by azeem40 View Post
    Dragonite has always been my favorite Pokemon. I have used it in every generation of Pokemon. I looked at some sets on smogon, but I don't want to just use a standard set because a lot of people base their counters on those sets. I'd like to learn to make a non-standard, yet non-gimmick set for a Pokemon. I also used to know how to make custom EVs, about leftovers numbers, speed tiers, attack, def tiers, etc, but have forgotten how to do so. Any help would really be appreciated.
    You are a begginer then try to use standard sets at first to learn how to play moreover use other people's teams if you want.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Zachmac View Post
    I'm fairly good with custom EVs if I actually put effort into it. I'll just have to mess with the speed tier list and a damage calculator.

    Hm......there are plenty of rain tank sets, but imagine how hard that Dragon could hit with Hurricane when using choice specs. Draco Meteor/Hurricane/Thunder/Filler, perhaps? I'll go play with a calc.
    Okay, so here is the set.

    Dragonite @ Choice Specs
    Multiscale
    Modest/Quite
    -Hurricane
    -Thunder
    -Draco Meteor
    -Surf/Earthquake/Roost

    Hurricane is the most important move in this set, being an extremely accurate and powerful STAB with no downsides and perfect accuracy in the rain. It even 2HKOs the likes of Ferrothorn. Thunder, on the other hand, is capable of 2HKOing Rotom-W. Draco Meteor was added for nothing in specific, but is there purely for it's immense power and STAB. Finally, Surf is it's next most powerful attack after these three in the rain, but with a quit nature, Earthquake can 2HKO a specially defensive Jirachi that had already tried to tank a Hurricane earlier in the fight. Roost is also an option on Dragonite if you want to keep it healthy, and while risky to be locked into, it can also be a life saver in the long run.

    The trick to using this set is to start with Hurricane until something that resist it is sent in. The next time you send in Dragonite after that, use the appropriate attack to finish off the pokemon who had swapped in previously more reliably then any other attack. Also, this set, like most choice band or specs sets, should make an excellent wall breaker.

    This set should be paired up with a Politoed and a pokemon with Rapid Spin, but if you want to go into details, you should either use this thread (click here) or PM me to continue the discussion.

    Also, I've never use this set before, so I it may not actually turn out that well, but that's a risk you have to take whenever you want to create your own custom set.

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    Since no one replied to the Team Building Help Thread in a few days, I will post my help here.

    I feel like basing my team around Dragonite and this set:
    Dragonite @ Life Orb
    Ability: Multiscale
    EVs: 252 SpA / 200 Spe / 56 Atk
    Moves:
    Outrage
    Earthquake
    Fire Blast
    Thunderbolt

    His goal is to hit as many leads for Super effective damage as possible. Outrage for STAB. Along with Fire Blast and Earthquake, nothing resists it. Since his Atk is so high, I didn't feel the need to max out Atk, so I maxed out SpA.

    Empoleon @ Leftovers
    Ability: Torrent
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpD / 4 SpA
    Moves:
    Scald
    Stealth Rock
    Roar
    Ice Beam

    Idk how to describe this Pokemon.

    I prefer to be a balanced team, mixing offense with defense. This is OU ofc.
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    Which Ground/Flying mon would be better at a defensive role, Landorus (both formes) or Gliscor?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Duranteater View Post
    Which Ground/Flying mon would be better at a defensive role, Landorus (both formes) or Gliscor?
    Gliscor is almost always a defensive Pokemon, and I've never heard of a defensive version of Landorus. I'd say that speaks for itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChaosBlizzard View Post
    Gliscor is almost always a defensive Pokemon, and I've never heard of a defensive version of Landorus. I'd say that speaks for itself.
    I've seen some Landorus-T sets that run Impish to tank physical mons in OU like Terrakion to set up rocks, U-Turn to scout and at certain occasions: set Gravity in which he is the best user of it IMO so it came down to this question :/


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    Quote Originally Posted by Duranteater View Post
    I've seen some Landorus-T sets that run Impish to tank physical mons in OU like Terrakion to set up rocks, U-Turn to scout and at certain occasions: set Gravity in which he is the best user of it IMO so it came down to this question :/
    Yes, this does happen. It's defense is surprisingly good thanks to intimidate, but Gliscor is usually considered better at this, thanks to it's DW ability allowing for easy recovery.

    Landy, on the other hand, has to rely off leftovers for recovery, so it won't be walling others for very long.

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    Doesn't anyonr have advice for me?
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    Quote Originally Posted by azeem40 View Post
    Doesn't anyonr have advice for me?
    Zachmac answered your first question in detail, and your second question is both vague and in the wrong thread. Your Dragonite isn't particularly good, and you offer little to no explanation as to why you chose what you did, justifying its abnormalities. The biggest thing that strikes me about the set is Outrage. The set is almost entirely special based on the EV spread, but you're using Outrage on it. Outrage on Dragonite, even a physical one, will hurt you more than help you if you aren't banded (or DD w/ Lum Berry maybe). The easiest fix to the set would be to either go full physical or full special, and I'm guessing you'd want full special. Mixed attackers tend to be mixed to hit specific targets, not just because "Oh, well I can't pick between the two." Mixed Pokemon are almost necessarily weaker than going full in one direction or the other, so you should use them with caution and valid reason. As such, I would recommend you replace Outrage with Draco Meteor and go full special. That or just rethink the set altogether. Your Empoleon is 100% standard, so I don't know what you want anyone to tell you besides that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChaosBlizzard View Post
    Zachmac answered your first question in detail, and your second question is both vague and in the wrong thread. Your Dragonite isn't particularly good, and you offer little to no explanation as to why you chose what you did, justifying its abnormalities. The biggest thing that strikes me about the set is Outrage. The set is almost entirely special based on the EV spread, but you're using Outrage on it. Outrage on Dragonite, even a physical one, will hurt you more than help you if you aren't banded (or DD w/ Lum Berry maybe). The easiest fix to the set would be to either go full physical or full special, and I'm guessing you'd want full special. Mixed attackers tend to be mixed to hit specific targets, not just because "Oh, well I can't pick between the two." Mixed Pokemon are almost necessarily weaker than going full in one direction or the other, so you should use them with caution and valid reason. As such, I would recommend you replace Outrage with Draco Meteor and go full special. That or just rethink the set altogether. Your Empoleon is 100% standard, so I don't know what you want anyone to tell you besides that.
    Like I said earlier, I am a TOTAL noob in fifth gen competitive battling, so even if I wanted to start team building, I wouldn't know what to do.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zachmac View Post
    Okay, so here is the set.

    Dragonite @ Choice Specs
    Multiscale
    Modest/Quite
    -Hurricane
    -Thunder
    -Draco Meteor
    -Surf/Earthquake/Roost

    Hurricane is the most important move in this set, being an extremely accurate and powerful STAB with no downsides and perfect accuracy in the rain. It even 2HKOs the likes of Ferrothorn. Thunder, on the other hand, is capable of 2HKOing Rotom-W. Draco Meteor was added for nothing in specific, but is there purely for it's immense power and STAB. Finally, Surf is it's next most powerful attack after these three in the rain, but with a quit nature, Earthquake can 2HKO a specially defensive Jirachi that had already tried to tank a Hurricane earlier in the fight. Roost is also an option on Dragonite if you want to keep it healthy, and while risky to be locked into, it can also be a life saver in the long run.

    The trick to using this set is to start with Hurricane until something that resist it is sent in. The next time you send in Dragonite after that, use the appropriate attack to finish off the pokemon who had swapped in previously more reliably then any other attack. Also, this set, like most choice band or specs sets, should make an excellent wall breaker.

    This set should be paired up with a Politoed and a pokemon with Rapid Spin, but if you want to go into details, you should either use this thread (click here) or PM me to continue the discussion.

    Also, I've never use this set before, so I it may not actually turn out that well, but that's a risk you have to take whenever you want to create your own custom set.
    Thanks, so is Rain the most dominant weather in OU?
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    How bulky is a 252/252/4 Hp/SpA/Speed -Atk +Def Togekiss against the commonly used pokemon in todays metagame? Assuming flawless ivs of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by azeem40 View Post
    Like I said earlier, I am a TOTAL noob in fifth gen competitive battling, so even if I wanted to start team building, I wouldn't know what to do.



    Thanks, so is Rain the most dominant weather in OU?
    Yes, Rain is by far the most seen weather in the OU metagame.


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