Now, the topic was permaweather. This debate is going no where and no one can really agree which ones break the meta and which ones balance the meta as proven by the podcast. To be honest this divide is so great that I think they won't end up doing crap about it. If you wanna talk 6th gen hopes and fears, I hope that the gen 6 meta won't be as crappy as gen 5 has been especially since the release of bw2 yet I fear that it might be. Some may argue that we still haven't had all of the dream world pokemon released yet and we can't really decide on anything until then. I'm gonna say early as I have before on other threads that we will get at least one ban to ubers (shadow tag chandelure), possibly 2 pokes that rises in usage and could get banned from a tier or 2 (serperior and feraligatr, the latter of which most feel will get banned from RU while the former may just rise to OU), and 2 that will get more usage in OU but not rise to OU (zapdos and raikou). Each of these pokemon is in some way benefited from weather but do not really contribute to making one more powerful than another.