going along with that, right now, the main point im trying to make is that its not complex. its not complicated. its a relatively simple to understand
ban, as is drizzleswim. its complex in that its more complex than a straight up sand veil ban. its not as complex as say, banning a certain pokemon with that ability, with that move. an example of an extremely complex ban would be banning only blaziken with speed boost with
protect. thats a complex ban. this, what were arguing back and forth, is not all that complex.