Oh, so that's gimmicky. Well, then yes. It will have little purpose after that :P
And I was going to say some things about Mismagius, but due my lack of knowledge on competitive tiers and uses over time, I will hold myself.
I just checked Movepools and base HP stats to check who would potentially be the best Wishers with the new mechanics. Aside from the elusive "WishBliss" (which was only available from a NYPC event! Yikes!), the top three Wishers based solely on HP stats alone would be:
*Wigglytuff (yes, Wigglytuff! -._-.)
Any thoughts on this?
Vaporeon + Hydration + Wish + Rain Based Team= Pure awesomeness for stall. <3
Stall won't be that viable until the meta settles down and then random **** threats are banned.
Then it'll bounce back up and kill everything <3
That pokemon my look like nothing but WOW!
I found something REAL usefell on that pokemon its worth checking out.
I made a pixele version of the unova badges in my signature made by my hands for free to use.
And did anyone else initially think that Mamanbou was a new form for Luvdisc?
I'm still convinced its a Luvdisc evo. I'm in denial.
If you max Luvdisc evo's Special Defense it actually takes Special hits quite well. I had a spread before that I forgot but its similar to Vaporeon's bulk IIRC.
A minor correction: Hahakomori's base stat total is 491, and the average overall for fully-evolved Pokémon is 497.2. So while it's below average, it isn't well below average.
Originally Posted by Makaveli
Heh, I know you were referring to OU in particular. Though I'm sure you knew I wasn't being serious. (I should go and calculate the ones for Smogon's OU at this moment and see what it is.)
If Kyuremu somehow isn't banned, he'll stall quite well with sub and dragon tail, in conjunction with spikes and rocks. I don't think anyone else has a big enough hp and defensive stats to replicate that though.
Kyuremu probably won't be seen on stall, but its a decent lead with Frozen World's speed drops and its an ok Choice Specs user since it can easily switch in on Bulky Waters.
Otherwise its a totally underwhelming Pokemon.
In the uber front he cant really stall I guess but on shoddy he's not banned yet so whatever.
What? He can't stall anywhere. Hes ok at a few things, but stalling isn't one of them.
Defensive Garchomp is better than Kyuremu on stall.
I really would like to meet someone who still thinks that stall is dead. The Burunkuru/Nattorie combo is really nice, even if everyone says it's overrated. Gliscor is great with Poison Heal, even if it has lost Roost. Porygon-2 is pretty good with an Evo Stone, as is Chansey (although Blissey's ability to carry Leftovers really helps it stall). And Sableye...well, don't even get me started on Sableye.
Also I feel the need to mention that a huge portion of the "successful" stall based teams that I've seen posted are pretty much destroyed by SD Terakion.