Magnets' BT team

[Magnets]

Well, I'm back to help IGRMT rise out of the dirt. I thought I would create a team to demonstrate my skill at the battle tower.

Mesprit@ Choice Scarf
Bold
Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spe
-Trick
-Thunderwave
-Charm
-Flash

Scizor@ Iron Plate
Adamant
Technician
EVs:248HP/252Atk/4Def/4Spe
-Swords Dance
-Substitute
-Bullet Punch
-Brick Break

Garchomp@ Lum Berry
Jolly
Sand Veil
EVs:4HP/252Atk/252Spe
-Swords Dance
-Substitute
-Outrage
-Earthquake

This is a pretty boring team, but that's how you get high streaks in the BT. Mine is at 420 and climbing.

Please rate, if you can.

[AlCario]

Fuckin' magnets, how do they work? Run Magnezone > Scizor. Teach it Explosion.

Nice streak, btw. That's almost as much as Terry got.

[[GS]]

Your Mesprit's EV's could be a bit more specific, something like
252 HP/186 Spe/72 SpD Calm could let you outspeed base
115's before the Trick, which is the highest speed tier that you
should be worried about. (Starmie)

You may as well use 252 Atk/248 HP/4 Spe/4 Def for
Scizor's spread, as the 4 Spe EV's will let you beat any other
Scizor that doesn't invest in Spe.

Standard 'Chompy is standard.

You're heavy on the physical side, so maybe consider adding
a special attacker. I'm not going to name any specifics, since
you can probably figure it out, so yea, hope this helps.

[Magnets]

Fuckin' magnets, how do they work? Run Magnezone > Scizor. Teach it Explosion.

Nice streak, btw. That's almost as much as Terry got.

What the hell. That barely helped at all. What could Magnezone possibly achieve?

Your Mesprit's EV's could be a bit more specific, something like
252 HP/186 Spe/72 SpD Calm could let you outspeed base
115's before the Trick, which is the highest speed tier that you
should be worried about. (Starmie)

You may as well use 252 Atk/248 HP/4 Spe/4 Def for
Scizor's spread, as the 4 Spe EV's will let you beat any other
Scizor that doesn't invest in Spe.

Standard 'Chompy is standard.

You're heavy on the physical side, so maybe consider adding
a special attacker. I'm not going to name any specifics, since
you can probably figure it out, so yea, hope this helps.

Good point on Scizor. I will consider those EVs on Mesprit; however it is often useful to outspeed everything, I have found.

Special attacking doesn't really matter so much at +6. Besides, the AI fails at stall, so physical walls shouldn't be a huge problem.

Thank you for actually giving a competent rate.

[[GS]]

I will also advise running Brick Break>Superpower, simply because
dropping your Atk/Def is not preferable, and besides, the lower base
power will still be effective against most steel types.

[AlCario]

What the hell. That barely helped at all. What could Magnezone possibly achieve?

Magnezone@Leftovers
Timid; Sturdy
4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
-Charge Beam
-Thunderbolt
-HP Ice
-Explosion/Sub

It works, kind of, and it fills the role of Special Sweeper quite nicely. It would help to put Sub in there somewhere, although you'll probably have to omit Explosion, which is without a doubt the best move in the game and should always be taught to everything that can learn it.

Thank you for actually giving a competent rate.

No problem.

[Soroft]

Iron Plate makes me lol. Muscle Band, 'nuff said. Helps out with your Bricks and your Breaks.

I doubt this made 420, proof pl0x.

You have to worry about them Porygonz, what with their Sp. Attack Download boost if you use the spread you've got right now.

Update the OP please.

[Eon Master]

This team really dislikes STAB water attacks. Vaporeon's Surf tops the list of water moves this team hates, especially if it's Scarfed in lead position. To rectify this, I recommend CM Latias with a Draco Plate in place of your Garchomp. It offers better synergy with Scizor, and gives you a strong Special Attacker to use.

244 Hp / 20 Def / 160 SpA / 84 Spe Timid is the best spread for a sweeper Latias in the tower, and it's a spread designed by both myself and Vaporeon4evr. 84 Spe lets you outrun Garchomp 2-4 (the adamant ones).

Alternately, you could run 252 Hp / 56 Def / 60 SpA / 140 Spe in order to beat Gillotine Gliscor, the bane of TrickScarf teams, although since it can use U-Turn, that's a much weaker spread. The 60 SpA is the minimum target for Latias, since 138 Special Attack will 2HKO everything in the Battle Tower at +6 with the Draco Plate attached.

Putting all of that together...

Latias @ Draco Plate
Timid
EVs: (Insert your chosen spread here)
Ability: Levitate
-Dragon Pulse
-Substitute
-Calm Mind
-Recover

There you go. Hopefully this is helpful.

I have no idea why I gave such a serious rate when your trolling got my last team closed and me infracted for responding to a troll, but meh.

[Magnets]

Magnezone@Leftovers
Timid; Sturdy
4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
-Charge Beam
-Thunderbolt
-HP Ice
-Explosion/Sub

It works, kind of, and it fills the role of Special Sweeper quite nicely. It would help to put Sub in there somewhere, although you'll probably have to omit Explosion, which is without a doubt the best move in the game and should always be taught to everything that can learn it.

Get out of my thread.

No problem.

That wasn't directed at you.

Iron Plate makes me lol. Muscle Band, 'nuff said. Helps out with your Bricks and your Breaks.

Iron Plate powers up BP, however, which is my main attack.

I doubt this made 420, proof pl0x.

I don't have access to a camera, I'm afraid, but I think you can believe me.

You have to worry about them Porygonz, what with their Sp. Attack Download boost if you use the spread you've got right now.

Porygon2/z have not been an issue to me.

Update the OP please.

I shall.

This team really dislikes STAB water attacks. Vaporeon's Surf tops the list of water moves this team hates, especially if it's Scarfed in lead position. To rectify this, I recommend CM Latias with a Draco Plate in place of your Garchomp. It offers better synergy with Scizor, and gives you a strong Special Attacker to use.

244 Hp / 20 Def / 160 SpA / 84 Spe Timid is the best spread for a sweeper Latias in the tower, and it's a spread designed by both myself and Vaporeon4evr. 84 Spe lets you outrun Garchomp 2-4 (the adamant ones).

Alternately, you could run 252 Hp / 56 Def / 60 SpA / 140 Spe in order to beat Gillotine Gliscor, the bane of TrickScarf teams, although since it can use U-Turn, that's a much weaker spread. The 60 SpA is the minimum target for Latias, since 138 Special Attack will 2HKO everything in the Battle Tower at +6 with the Draco Plate attached.

Putting all of that together...

Latias @ Draco Plate
Timid
EVs: (Insert your chosen spread here)
Ability: Levitate
-Dragon Pulse
-Substitute
-Calm Mind
-Recover

There you go. Hopefully this is helpful.

Thank you for the advice, I will consider it.

I have no idea why I gave such a serious rate when your trolling got my last team closed and me infracted for responding to a troll, but meh.

Yeah, sorry about that.

[Soroft]

It doesn't matter if it's your primary attack move, really. Not using Muscle Band when you can with even more success is just wasteful. They both give the exact same bonus, except Muscle Band benefits Brick Break.

If you were able to make it to 420, you'd know that. Just sayin'.

In the BT, you can never believe someone claiming they've reached a certain point unless they have proof. Sorry, but I really can't. Surely you understand. Believe me, I know what it's like. I had to get photo proof of my shiny Rayquaza.

[ungulateman]

Iron Plate is a 20% boost. Muscle Band is a 10% boost.

Do the math, Soroft.

[Soroft]

^Orly? Last website I checked had the same bonus. That's just turrible. Still, Muscle Band does nicely to help out against LeviSteels.

Also, Scizor's Speed EVs should be distributed a little differently, since that one point of Speed won't do much with Bullet Punch. The first point allows outspeeding of non-invested Scizors, but the other point, as GS said, really could do more in a different field. Not by much, but meh.

[Magnets]

It doesn't matter if it's your primary attack move, really. Not using Muscle Band when you can with even more success is just wasteful. They both give the exact same bonus, except Muscle Band benefits Brick Break.

If you were able to make it to 420, you'd know that. Just sayin'.

I have a feeling that you are just trying to start an argument with me for no real reason, because Muscle Band over Iron Plate is wrong. If you knew anything about the BT you would know that.

In the BT, you can never believe someone claiming they've reached a certain point unless they have proof. Sorry, but I really can't. Surely you understand. Believe me, I know what it's like. I had to get photo proof of my shiny Rayquaza.

Well, I understand that proof is necessary sometimes. However, I have no access to a digital camera, so I am afraid that you have to take my word for it. You probably won't, but whatever. My streak peaked at 441, in case anyone wants to know.

^Orly? Last website I checked had the same bonus. That's just turrible. Still, Muscle Band does nicely to help out against LeviSteels.

Brick Break is supereffective against most of them, and at +6 it will KO just about all of the problematic ones without the boost from Muscle Band. No thanks.

Also, Scizor's Speed EVs should be distributed a little differently, since that one point of Speed won't do much with Bullet Punch. The first point allows outspeeding of non-invested Scizors, but the other point, as GS said, really could do more in a different field. Not by much, but meh.

True that. I forgot to edit it in when GS suggested it.

[Soroft]

I have a feeling that you are just trying to start an argument with me for no real reason, because Muscle Band over Iron Plate is wrong. If you knew anything about the BT you would know that.

For one, I don't like to start many arguments, but I will engage in them if necessary. Two, insulting my intelligence because I messed up on an item suggestion for a moveset isn't exactly enjoyed.

Well, I understand that proof is necessary sometimes. However, I have no access to a digital camera, so I am afraid that you have to take my word for it. You probably won't, but whatever. My streak peaked at 441, in case anyone wants to know.

Then you either need a cell phone from the last five years, or a laptop. It doesn't work as well, but it gets the job done. But I do understand, there's not much of a point to digital cameras imo.

[Jbpuffin44]

Wow. Um,where to start here.
Seriously dude, MESPRIT!!!!!! When there's AZELF!!!! WHY!!!!

Sure this isn't competitive, but there's a reason Azelf's higher rated: in a world of trouble, when you don't know what you'll find, Azelf can check his way through some tough spots.

Trust me, I'm no Azelf fan. Heck, I would like to see a Pikachu on a team, but that won't happen. It's just, Azelf could bring in the crucial Special side to this team. Or you can run MixNite or something.

And WTP at Iron Plate. Who cares about Bullet Punch being the main attack. You have freakin' Choice Band for that.

In conclusion: Azelf for lead, Choice Band for Scizor.

[AlCario]

I almost agree with Jbpuffin44, although I don't think Choice Band is the right item on Scizor.

[ungulateman]

Jbpuffin44 is completely missing the point.

[Magnets]

For one, I don't like to start many arguments, but I will engage in them if necessary. Two, insulting my intelligence because I messed up on an item suggestion for a moveset isn't exactly enjoyed.

I also only engage in arguments when necessary. Unfortunately, they are almost always necessary, especially here, where people are wrong so often that an argument is unavoidable, if things are to be corrected.

At no point have I insulted your intelligence; I never thought you could have misinterpreted what I said so much.

Then you either need a cell phone from the last five years, or a laptop. It doesn't work as well, but it gets the job done. But I do understand, there's not much of a point to digital cameras imo.

It would be difficult to read the number of my best streak when the resolution is so poor; I've seen other people's attempts at trying to use mobile phones etc for it, and that is how it has been. I also could never be bothered: I hold no ambition to be in the smogon ranking hall (which is the only place where proof is required anyway), since most of the streaks over there aren't much good, and it wouldn't mean a lot to anyone if I beat them. I only play the battle tower for my own personal satisfaction, you see.

Wow. Um,where to start here.
Seriously dude, MESPRIT!!!!!! When there's AZELF!!!! WHY!!!!

Because Mesprit is better.

Sure this isn't competitive, but there's a reason Azelf's higher rated: in a world of trouble, when you don't know what you'll find, Azelf can check his way through some tough spots.

Trust me, I'm no Azelf fan. Heck, I would like to see a Pikachu on a team, but that won't happen. It's just, Azelf could bring in the crucial Special side to this team. Or you can run MixNite or something.

Azelf is only viable as a Nasty Plot sweeper. And even then it requires a team to be built around it, usually. Please go and have a love affair with Azelf somewhere else.

And WTP at Iron Plate. Who cares about Bullet Punch being the main attack. You have freakin' Choice Band for that.

In conclusion: Azelf for lead, Choice Band for Scizor.

What a stupid idea. Firstly, I have already stated several times the reason for my usage of Iron Plate. Secondly, Choice Band is just moronic. You don't even see the purpose of this team, do you? Although you're probably a troll so I just wasted my time replying to you.

I almost agree with Jbpuffin44, although I don't think Choice Band is the right item on Scizor.

How could even come close to agreeing with that idiot. People say you aren't a troll, but I'm becoming less and less convinced of that. You need to gtfo.

Jbpuffin44 is completely missing the point.

^This.

[ungulateman]

Al is a troll. That doesn't stop him from being a good rater when he wants to be. He just lost hope like all the other good raters, except instead of leaving (Vaporeon4Ever, CT), he simply burns himself out trolling IGTR, trying to keep just a few sparks in his heart alive.

[Magnets]

Al is a troll. That doesn't stop him from being a good rater when he wants to be. He just lost hope like all the other good raters, except instead of leaving (Vaporeon4Ever, CT), he simply burns himself out trolling IGTR, trying to keep just a few sparks in his heart alive.

It would be nice if he could keep them alive by doing something useful.

Any more rates?