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    Congrats to Price. Obviously, I wish Verlander would have won it, but Price had an excellent season.

    Unsurprisingly, R.A. Dickey won it on the NL side. Figured it would be him or Clayton Kershaw, but I figured they'd go for Dickey, just to give it to a knuckleballer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden_Latias View Post
    just to give it to a knuckleballer.
    I don't think this had much to do with it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TheWatersGreatGuardian View Post
    The downside is what little chance there was of him being here long term is now gone.
    I figured it was going to happen anyways. If he's going to have a career year, I'm glad it was with the Rays.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden_Latias View Post
    I think he just wanted to go to any WS contender in general, not specifically the Tigers.

    But yeah. Now all the Tigs need to do is get Sanchez signed, make someone the new closer, and maybe get a new bullpen arm, and they're set, in my opinion.
    No, an article I heard on the radio today said he was planning to come here for quite sometime... not Texas, not the Dodgers, but here.

    Either way though, despite his "age" two years is still plenty of time for him and can't wait to see how this plays out. He's a solid number 2 hitter IMHO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joltik-Kid View Post
    No, an article I heard on the radio today said he was planning to come here for quite sometime... not Texas, not the Dodgers, but here.

    Either way though, despite his "age" two years is still plenty of time for him and can't wait to see how this plays out. He's a solid number 2 hitter IMHO
    You're right, I had just read that.

    He probably will be the #2 hitter. And it's not just that. Two years is also plenty of time for Castellanos and Garcia to polish their skills. I assume one of them is the Tigers RF of the future. And even if he declines, he can't be any worse than guys like Boesch or Raburn or Kelly or whoever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheWatersGreatGuardian View Post
    I think it is evident that the marlins are the worst franchise in baseball. Nice that they felt the need to screw with the balance of the AL East before they went down too..
    I thought that move was crazy. For them to gather all those players and blow it up in just one year was very odd to me. I mean, yeah, the season wasn't the best last year but you have to give it some more time (although I wouldn't blame them for blowing it up next year if it still didn't work).

    Also, I figured you'd be happy with the Jays (apparently) getting better- there'd be more of a chance they could beat your division rivals.
    Quote Originally Posted by Golden_Latias View Post
    Unsurprisingly, R.A. Dickey won it on the NL side.
    I'm happy for him to win it. I've heard his story on tv and couldn't help but root for him, despite the fact that I don't like the Mets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PsychicPsycho View Post
    I thought that move was crazy. For them to gather all those players and blow it up in just one year was very odd to me. I mean, yeah, the season wasn't the best last year but you have to give it some more time (although I wouldn't blame them for blowing it up next year if it still didn't work).

    Also, I figured you'd be happy with the Jays (apparently) getting better- there'd be more of a chance they could beat your division rivals.
    I'm happy for him to win it. I've heard his story on tv and couldn't help but root for him, despite the fact that I don't like the Mets.
    I actually feel the O's and Jays are bigger threats at the moment than the Yankees and Red Sox. What has always held the Jays back is their starting pitching. That just got a lot better.

    I would have preferred things stayed as they were. BTW why are you surprised that the marlins blew up their team? Its something they have made a habit of over the years

    Think those fans in Miami are mad? They build a stadium largely off taxpayer money, then dismantle the team the year after

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden_Latias View Post
    You're right, I had just read that.

    He probably will be the #2 hitter. And it's not just that. Two years is also plenty of time for Castellanos and Garcia to polish their skills. I assume one of them is the Tigers RF of the future. And even if he declines, he can't be any worse than guys like Boesch or Raburn or Kelly or whoever.
    Anyone is better then Raburn... but back to that Sanchez thing, I hope we pick him up, but I don't know if he'll lower his "expected" income to stay with our team.

    On another note, G$ is headed to the Braves
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joltik-Kid View Post
    Anyone is better then Raburn... but back to that Sanchez thing, I hope we pick him up, but I don't know if he'll lower his "expected" income to stay with our team.

    On another note, G$ is headed to the Braves
    Raburn's not that bad as an OF, but for that offense, it's just not worth.

    Eh, they'll probably just bring up Bryan Holiday or something. Tigers have more important things to worry about than back-up catcher.

    EDIT: And Miggy wins the MVP. Good. He absolutely deserved it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden_Latias View Post
    Raburn's not that bad as an OF, but for that offense, it's just not worth.

    Eh, they'll probably just bring up Bryan Holiday or something. Tigers have more important things to worry about than back-up catcher.

    EDIT: And Miggy wins the MVP. Good. He absolutely deserved it.
    Not bad? Hmm, for every one good play he made in the OF, 3 mistakes/misplays happened.

    Pierzynski Your probably right

    EDIT: I took my idiotic post off... seesh I get it ;p
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joltik-Kid View Post
    Aha, take that guy who argued about Trout quite a couple pages back... he used a shiny Magikarp avatar. Also, take that Sabermetrics
    "Take that Sabermetrics"? Really? Seriously? I'm sorry, are you six years old?


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    Nothing wrong with sabermetrics. In fact, I think that had Miggy not won the Triple Crown, Trout would have won the MVP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCVM22 View Post
    "Take that Sabermetrics"? Really? Seriously? I'm sorry, are you six years old?
    Hey, I'm all giddy right now okay... no I'm not 6 years old. I don't completely agree with the new age Sabermetric formula. WAR is not 100% there yet (in fact it's ridiculous right now as it stands) otherwise Ben Zobrist is exactly 9.3 percent better than Adrian Gonzalez.
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    I agree it's not yet a perfect statistic, but that doesn't discount the player value it indicates nor does it discredit the (now former) case for Trout as the MVP based on the total value he provided to his team nor does it at all discount the benefit of sabermetrics and the information they provide us.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BCVM22 View Post
    I agree it's not yet a perfect statistic, but that doesn't discount the player value it indicates nor does it discredit the (now former) case for Trout as the MVP based on the total value he provided to his team nor does it at all discount the benefit of sabermetrics and the information they provide us.
    I still don't understand the WAR formula (as there is no established system for it) but based on Trout's performances, I think he rightfully deserved to be in the MVP discussion, possibly winning it had Cabrera not stepped his game up in the last two months that really counted.
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    There's no "possibly" to it. Neither one would have been the wrong choice. There is no argument - I repeat, no argument - for either one not being the MVP.


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    I hope you know I didn't mean for it to sound bias ^^;

    Of coarse both had solid arguments on why they should be MVP
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    As long as we're past that "take that, sabermetrics" thing.


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    It's all good ^^ The only one I don't have faith in right now is WAR, but it will get there sooner or later
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheWatersGreatGuardian View Post
    I actually feel the O's and Jays are bigger threats at the moment than the Yankees and Red Sox. What has always held the Jays back is their starting pitching. That just got a lot better.

    I would have preferred things stayed as they were. BTW why are you surprised that the marlins blew up their team? Its something they have made a habit of over the years
    I still view the Yankees as valid contenders next year, but you've probably looked into the statistics more then me.

    And I guess I haven't been watching baseball long enough to have seen them do it before.
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    EDIT: And Miggy wins the MVP. Good. He absolutely deserved it.
    Does anyone know how many points seperated he and Trout?
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    Aha, take that guy who argued about Trout quite a couple pages back... he used a shiny Magikarp avatar.
    That would be woot21. And it's not like he was being ridiculous. As was stated later...

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    There is no argument - I repeat, no argument - for either one not being the MVP.
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