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    General Tips to Avoid Scams

    This thread is aimed to help you avoid scams. Following the points here does not guarantee you will never be scammed in a Pokémon trade.
    YOUR trades are YOUR responsibility - NOT that of the Operators.
    The Operators will no longer ban scammers unless you provide sufficient evidence.
    Prevention is better than cure - even if we do ban, you cannot get your Pokémon back and the scammer will be able to return within a few days.
    Be careful with your trades and don't be afraid to ask your partner questions or decline.



    In the Main Channel:

    The Main Channel is where you can see everyone making their offers or requests. Some of the posts listed below will get users banned (these are marked with an asterisk: *), however, should they get away with it, avoid negotiating with the following:

    - People offering more Pokemon than they are asking for and vice versa.
    <WiFiGuest7792> Offering 5 Shinies for Arceus.*
    - People making unrealistic offers.
    <WiFiGuest7792> Offering Arceus for Bidoof.
    - People offering free Pokémon.
    <WiFiGuest7792> Offering free Arceus.*
    - People offering to help evolve/train/clone/transfer Pokémon.
    <WiFiGuest7792> Who wants help evolving their Pokemon
    <WiFiGuest7792> Who wants me to train their Pokemon to level 100
    <WiFiGuest7792> Who wants me to EV train their Pokemon
    <WiFiGuest7792> Who wants me to clone their Pokemon*
    <WiFiGuest7792> Who needs help transferring their Pokemon to another cartridge
    - People offering fan-made Events or other illegitimate (hacked) Pokémon.
    <WiFiGuest7792> Offering Nintendo World Shiny Celebi*
    <WiFiGuest7792> Offering Wondertomb*
    - People offering Nintendo Of Korea (NOK) Events or any other Korean Pokémon.
    <WiFiGuest7792> Offering NOKs*
    - People offering shiny Events.
    <WiFiGuest7792> Offering shiny Arceus*
    - People looking to fill their Pokédex.
    <WiFiGuest7792> Looking for Arceus to complete my dex. Will trade back!
    - People offering eggs (exc. Manaphy).
    <WiFiGuest7792> Offering Egg with shiny inside.

    Anyone looking for any of the asterisked posts (such as looking for someone to clone Pokemon) will also be banned. NOK Events are banned due to the fact that Korean Pokémon cannot be traded to other language cartridges. Be warned that if you are looking for help with transferring, evolving, etc, you will likely be scammed. Try to get help from someone you trust. If Ops offer help, you can trust them but do not ask the Ops for such help yourself.

    RNGing is a legitimate way to get Pokémon but remember, hacking is quicker and easier. If anyone offers you RNGed Pokémon, they are likely to be trying to trade a hacked Pokémon.



    In Private Message (PM):

    Once you've found someone you might want to trade with, start a PM with them and find out more about their Pokémon:

    - If they are offering an Event Pokémon:
    Ask how they obtained it.
    If they claim that a friend gave it to them, be extremely cautious. Almost always, these "friends" have given them a hacked Pokémon, whether they realise it or not. Decline the offer (recommended) or continue at your own risk.
    If they claim to have obtained it from an online trade with a stranger, be extremely cautious. Decline the offer (recommended) or continue at your own risk.

    Ask which specific Event they went to.
    Use this information later in the trading room to check if the dates shown on the Pokémon match up.

    - If they are offering an EV trained Pokémon:
    Ask how they obtained it.
    If they claim that a friend gave it to them, be extremely cautious. Almost always, these "friends" have given them a hacked Pokémon, whether they realise it or not. Decline the offer (recommended) or continue at your own risk.
    If they claim to have obtained it from an online trade with a stranger, be extremely cautious. Decline the offer (recommended) or continue at your own risk.
    A subtle way of checking it's their own is to ask for it to be nicknamed.

    Ask for its IVs and EV Spread.
    If they tell you, save the information for later when checking in the trading room. If the results look dodgy (eg. 0/0/0/0/0/0, 31/31/31/30/31/31, etc), decline. While it is possible to RNG for IVs like these, it is much easier to hack them.
    If they don't know, chances are they didn't breed/train it themselves thus nullifying credibility of the source. Decline the offer (recommended) or continue at your own risk.

    - If they are trading a Shiny non-Event Pokémon:
    Ask how they obtained it.
    If they claim that a friend gave it to them, be extremely cautious. Almost always, these "friends" have given them a hacked Pokémon, whether they realise it or not. Decline the offer (recommended) or continue at your own risk.
    If they claim to have obtained it from an online trade with a stranger, be extremely cautious. Decline the offer (recommended) or continue at your own risk.

    - If they are trading any migrated Pokémon:
    My advice is to stay clear from valuable migrated Pokémon as the majority of them have been cloned using the glitch in Emerald. As a result, you will likely trade your valuable Pokémon when your partner trades you an illegitimate Pokémon with no loss on their part whatsoever. It is also much harder to determine the legitimacy of migrated Pokémon as less information is provided in the summary page. If, however, you still wish to trade, do so at your own risk.



    In the Trading Room:

    So, you have done all the preliminary checks and now you're in the trading room. This is where you must do the most work in order to check if the Pokémon is legitimate or not and once you do, you must watch out for the scammers' favourite scam technique shown later. The following has been written under the assumption that you've declined whenever I told you to do so.

    - If they are offering an Event Pokémon:
    Please refer to the Event Database to check the Pokémon's summary pages.

    If it is a Classic Ribbon Event, read its description and check it says "A Ribbon that proclaims love for Pokémon."

    The only legitimate shiny Events are VGC09 Milotic, VGC10 Eevee, Pikachu-Coloured Pichu. Capturable Events (eg. Member's Card Darkrai, Oak's Letter Shaymin, etc) may also be Shiny. If the Event your partner is offering is shiny and none of the above, decline.

    Check the date matches the Event your partner claimed to have went to.

    Check the IVs using an IV Calculator. The higher the level of the Pokémon, the more accurate the results will be. This makes certain Pokémon hard to check properly. If the results look dodgy (eg. 0/0/0/0/0/0, 31/31/31/30/31/31, etc), decline. While it is possible to RNG for IVs like these, it is much easier to hack them.

    - If they are offering EV trained Pokémon/Shiny non-Events:
    For EV trained Pokémon, check the stats by inputting the IVs and EVs your partner told you into an IV Calculator. If they match, continue checking. It is a good idea to check the IVs of Shiny non-Events too if they are untouched (UT). Decline if the results are dodgy.

    Check how it was obtained.
    If it was hatched, make sure that the egg hatched on the same day as or the day after it was received.
    If it says "Apparently met" or "Egg apparently hatched":
        Spoiler:- Flowchart:

    If it was caught, check its location and level caught is correct.

    Check the Pokéball.
    Certain Pokémon can only be inside regular Pokéballs (eg. Hatched Pokémon, Fossil Pokémon, migrated Castform, etc).

    Check the Moves.
    If it has Egg Moves and was not hatched, ask your partner how it got them. (Sometimes Egg Moves can be level-up moves aswell or XD: GoD Pokémon have them).
    If it has more than one Egg Move, check that the combination can be obtained legitimately. For instance, a Zubat cannot be bred to know both Hypnosis and Nasty Plot because there is no parent in its Egg Group that can learn both.
    If it has a move that can only be taught through one of the third generation games (eg. Wailord's Selfdestruct), make sure that it is a) migrated b) doesn't know any fourth generation Egg Moves.
    Check that it can learn the level-up moves it knows at its level.
    If it has any Event moves, check that it is a legitimate Event Pokémon.

    Check its ability.

    Milotic.
    Check its Beauty. If it's not almost maxed out, it's hacked.

    Arceus.
    Contrary to popular belief, it CAN be EV trained. Just make sure that it comes from an actual Event and is not Hall of Origin.



    "Trade <yourpokémon> in return for <theirpokémon>?"

    Now that you've done your hack check, it's time to trade. Keep your eye on the Pokémon that you want traded. If it is not the one your partner selected to be traded, select "No", talk to your partner and try again. The amount of people who get scammed because they do not pay attention to the screen like that is phenomenal. I cannot stress this enough: please, please, please check carefully before you select "Yes".
    Last edited by Epona; 20th October 2010 at 7:24 PM.
        Spoiler:- He is always watching...:


    Love you, Tess <3

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