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    Quote Originally Posted by Pikachu52 View Post
    Pikachu should never had been the fall guy at all and certainly not here. The biggest problem with the BW series was that it made Pikachu the 'fall guy' too often and in too many important battles, most disastrously in the final of the Don Tournament but also against Cameron's Lucario.

    That considered, this episode is an unmitigated disaster in terms of inconsistencies and unfairness to the protagonists. First having Ash decided to challenge all three gym leaders made him look like childish and thoughtless. Especially since he won his first battle, which should have immediately entitled him to the gym badge. The terms of the challenge are you choose a gym leader and only have to beat that leader. That rule shouldn't change just because Ash wanted to battle all three. Pikachu loosing the second battle (which is utter BS) ends up reflecting poorly on both of them simply because if Ash had just simply chosen to battle Chili he would have the badge and there wouldn't have been a sudden death match between Oshawott and Pansage.

    Secondly, as I've documented previously the battle between Pikachu and Panpour as BS. Pikachu is the Pokémon that can defeat a Latios and tie with a Regice. I don't care how well experienced Cress might have been dealing with electric types, Pikachu does NOT loose to weak Pokémon like Panpour and certainly not without landing a single hit. Rubbish writing designed only to glorify Oshawott and Tepig. And how exactly did Cress and Panpour become that good; They've done the same amount of training as Cilan and Chili and their partners yet both Pansage and Pansear go down to a untrained and hyperactive Oshawott (against whom it has a type advantage) and a Tepig that was dying of malnutrition only an episode previous and whom Ash had never battled with before. This is inconsistent to the point of being unbelievable.

    Third, just how did Oshawott and Tepig get so strong. Tepig had a previous trainer, so it's not a stretch to consider that he probably had some battle experience, but Ash had never used him before so he didn't really know how to work with him effectively. Oshawott on the other hand is a starter who had probably never been in a battle, other than that fight with Team Rocket. How does he become so skilled as to beat a Pansage who had been a leaders Pokémon for as long as the Panpour that defeated Pikachu. It doesn't make sense.

    This battle was absolutely botched. The first Gym battle should give Pikachu the spotlight. Pikachu was the best Pokémon in that gym and he got robbed here. Thank Arceus that XY is finally giving Pikachu the glory he deserves.
    Actually, no. Just because you have some assinine idea about how pikachu should get everything ever, doesnt mean he should. The first gym should be used for showing the potential of Ash's new team-members, not jerk off pikachu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phanpycross View Post
    Actually, no. Just because you have some assinine idea about how pikachu should get everything ever, doesnt mean he should. The first gym should be used for showing the potential of Ash's new team-members, not jerk off pikachu.
    First of all my idea isn't asinine I've justified it. I've been saying all along I think the way XY has been written in regards to Pikachu is more or less spot on - Pikachu's battle record in XY is the best part of the series. Secondly Pikachu's had an important role in nearly every single of the first gyms that Ash has challenged since Kanto. Pikachu staring in the first gym is the most logical plot simply because at the early stages of the series Ash has barely caught or trained his new Pokémon. Simply put the first gym belongs to Pikachu because there isn't really anyone else, not when the first gym battle was the fifth episode of the series. I don't see why two Pokémon who'd never battled with Ash before should have a better run than a Pokémon who has on several occassions. The potential for Ash's other Pokémon rightfully comes later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pikachu52 View Post
    Pikachu should never had been the fall guy at all and certainly not here. The biggest problem with the BW series was that it made Pikachu the 'fall guy' too often and in too many important battles, most disastrously in the final of the Don Tournament but also against Cameron's Lucario.
    What? The only Pokemon on Ash's BW team that got close to the battle time of Pikachu was Pignite. Pikachu starred in three gyms, battled in two more, and had more wins that any of his other Pokemon in the league (including defeating Trip's fairly unstoppable Serperior). I didn't particularly like that it lost to Panpour (I'd have preferred if they'd given Pidove a battle), but trying to make out that it was constantly the fall guy or was somehow robbed of the battle is absurd.

    And Pikachu's been around for over 900 episodes. It's had battle upon battle, glory moment after glory moment. Losing every so often so the Pokemon that are only around for one saga can get some screen time won't hurt it. You liking Pikachu does not mean that it "deserves" to be constantly glorified.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grey Wind View Post
    What? The only Pokemon on Ash's BW team that got close to the battle time of Pikachu was Pignite. Pikachu starred in three gyms, battled in two more, and had more wins that any of his other Pokemon in the league (including defeating Trip's fairly unstoppable Serperior). I didn't particularly like that it lost to Panpour (I'd have preferred if they'd given Pidove a battle), but trying to make out that it was constantly the fall guy or was somehow robbed of the battle is absurd.

    And Pikachu's been around for over 900 episodes. It's had battle upon battle, glory moment after glory moment. Losing every so often so the Pokemon that are only around for one saga can get some screen time won't hurt it. You liking Pikachu does not mean that it "deserves" to be constantly glorified.
    This hasn't anything to do with liking or not liking Pikachu, it's more about consistency. Even if Pikachu wasn't the constant fall guy he should never have lost the three battles I mentioned. Panpour was a joke. It is not plausible to believe a Pokémon around for 900 episodes who tied to a Latios can loose so poorly to a Panpour when a starter Oshawott and a weak Tepig, neither of which had battled with Ash before won in their battles. That fact alone made this episode one of the worst of BW in my opinion. Not simply because of Panpour but the fact that Ash asked to battle all three leaders making him look overly sure of himself and incredibly childish, which in turn reflects badly on Pikachu because his loss created the necessity for Oshawott to win the final battle. He ought to have been handed the badge after Chili. It's also worth nothing Cress's strenght was totally inconsistent thoughtout the series. The next time we saw Panpour in battle it took a one hit K.O to Morana's Glalie. BW's biggest problem was maybe not that Pikachu was the constant fall guy but he was the fall guy in places where the effect of the impact of that loss is hardest, such as in competition finals (worst being the first tournmanet where his loosing battle is his only battle) or here where he's the weak link in a chain Ash never had to create.

    Also when I say Pikachu should be glorified I'm not asking for Pikachu to never loose - I've already said I highly praise the XY series for getting Pikachu right (star of most gym battles but not all, losses kept to minimum, losses not in significant battles and Pokémon lost agaisnt rematched and defeated if significant such as Lucario). Ash's battle record and competence levels in XY are generally depicting him as the competent and skilled trainer he and seem to have had positive reactions from fans. That should have been what BW was like but failed to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phanpycross View Post
    Actually, no. Just because you have some assinine idea about how pikachu should get everything ever, doesnt mean he should. The first gym should be used for showing the potential of Ash's new team-members, not jerk off pikachu.
    Ash's Unova Pokemon were weaker than Pikachu though so logically Pikachu should've out-shined them but he didn't. It was a bad decision to have him lose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pikachu52 View Post
    The biggest problem with the BW series was that it made Pikachu the 'fall guy' too often and in too many important battles, most disastrously in the final of the Don Tournament but also against Cameron's Lucario.
    You are seriously fooling yourself into thinking that Pikachu being a fall guy was the biggest problem to BW. You tend to disregard how plots went nowhere (Zekrom), Best Wishes Season 2 being almost useless, the anti-climax of Giovanni vs Ash, stuffing too many rivals everywhere, character arcs being wasted, Cameron being an insult to Jar Jar Binks, having an ineffective rotation, and no character development to pokemon like Snivy because of said rotation.

    The battles were one of the least grating parts of the entire series.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JudySpell View Post
    Ash's Unova Pokemon were weaker than Pikachu though so logically Pikachu should've out-shined them but he didn't. It was a bad decision to have him lose.
    Id still rather have the episodes focus on the new pokemon introduced this saga rahter than the boring one whos been around since gen 1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JudySpell View Post
    Ash's Unova Pokemon were weaker than Pikachu though
    True but I guess it was kind of a good thing cuz at least Oshawott and Tepig got some much needed battle experience here. Looking back however I felt that Oshawott was an odd choice to fight against Pansage and that it would've made more sense if it had been Tepig vs Pansage and Oshawott vs Pansear instead. ^^;

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    Hahaha! Despite how stupid this episode was in terms of making sense (I'm primarily looking at you, you overrated yellow mouse), I did like this episode. I like the Striaton brothers and their cheerleaders. Their monkey friends are cute as well. On the negative side though, this episode imo was one of the greatest flaunters of Ash's "regression".

    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs. Oreo View Post
    True but I guess it was kind of a good thing cuz at least Oshawott and Tepig got some much needed battle experience here. Looking back however I felt that Oshawott was an odd choice to fight against Pansage and that it would've made more sense if it had been Tepig vs Pansage and Oshawott vs Pansear instead. ^^;
    Maybe so, but we can't forget that anime =/= games, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs. Oreo View Post
    True but I guess it was kind of a good thing cuz at least Oshawott and Tepig got some much needed battle experience here. Looking back however I felt that Oshawott was an odd choice to fight against Pansage and that it would've made more sense if it had been Tepig vs Pansage and Oshawott vs Pansear instead. ^^;
    The type chart only exist when the plot demands it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JudySpell View Post
    Ash's Unova Pokemon were weaker than Pikachu though so logically Pikachu should've out-shined them but he didn't. It was a bad decision to have him lose.
    All of Ash's beginning of region teams are weaker than Pikachu yet Pikachu lost twice against Roark, lost the first battle against Viola and lost against Falkner though the glory was give to Charizard on the last one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Trollbias View Post
    All of Ash's beginning of region teams are weaker than Pikachu yet Pikachu lost twice against Roark, lost the first battle against Viola and lost against Falkner though the glory was give to Charizard on the last one.
    Good Lord, this statement says it all.
    "Everyone creates the thing they dread. Men of peace create engines of war. Invaders create Avengers. People create... smaller people? Er... children! I lost the word there. Children. Designed to supplant them. To help them end."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satoshi & Touko View Post
    Maybe so, but we can't forget that anime =/= games, right?
    That's true ha ha. The inconsistency with how types affect each other is frustrating, but I'd still have preferred seeing Oshawott take Pansear down. :3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Trollbias View Post
    All of Ash's beginning of region teams are weaker than Pikachu yet Pikachu lost twice against Roark, lost the first battle against Viola and lost against Falkner though the glory was give to Charizard on the last one.
    Pikachu didn't have a disadvantage here like he did against Roark and in the cases or Roark and Viola Ash's other weaker Pokémon also lost. In the case of Viola the writing was much better as Pikachu became the hero of the battle in the next epsiode. The situation was similar to Roark - Pikachu had beaten Onix in the first match of Ash and Roark's rematch so he wasn't made the fall guy for the whole episode. This situation is very different as Pikachu had the advantage and both of Ash's other Pokémon used had never actually been in a battle before. It's harder to believe. Pikachu (any of Ash's Pokémon really but certainly not his starter or his strongest Pokémon) should generally not be used as the sole loosing Pokémon in any battle or tournament and the fact that he was on two occasions in BW damaged the series terribly (at least in my opinion - others have different critiques of BW).

    Quote Originally Posted by phanpycross View Post
    Id still rather have the episodes focus on the new pokemon introduced this saga rahter than the boring one whos been around since gen 1.
    The entire rest of the series focused on Ash's other Pokémon. Oshawott and Tepig were used against Lenora while Pikachu was horribly overlooked in BW. Pikachu is the strongest Pokémon Ash has on hand and therefore logically should be not only the obvious choice to fight but should also do best out of all Pokémon Ash has with him, certainly when he had the type advantage. This episode is a joke. Oshawott and Tepig were over glorified and Panpour clearly had no place beating Pikachu.

    Quote Originally Posted by Satoshi & Touko View Post
    Hahaha! Despite how stupid this episode was in terms of making sense (I'm primarily looking at you, you overrated yellow mouse), I did like this episode. I like the Striaton brothers and their cheerleaders. Their monkey friends are cute as well. On the negative side though, this episode imo was one of the greatest flaunters of Ash's "regression".
    The problem with regression stems nearly entirely from the fact that Pikachu lost. If Ash had won all three battles it wouldn't be seen as a regression and more importantly if he hadn't requested to battle all three leader, unnecessarily making things harder for himself it would not have reflected as badly on him. It was poor writing. And Pikachu is not overrated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pikachu52 View Post
    Pikachu didn't have a disadvantage here like he did against Roark and in the cases or Roark and Viola Ash's other weaker Pokémon also lost. In the case of Viola the writing was much better as Pikachu became the hero of the battle in the next epsiode. The situation was similar to Roark - Pikachu had beaten Onix in the first match of Ash and Roark's rematch so he wasn't made the fall guy for the whole episode. This situation is very different as Pikachu had the advantage and both of Ash's other Pokémon used had never actually been in a battle before. It's harder to believe. Pikachu (any of Ash's Pokémon really but certainly not his starter or his strongest Pokémon) should generally not be used as the sole loosing Pokémon in any battle or tournament and the fact that he was on two occasions in BW damaged the series terribly (at least in my opinion - others have different critiques of BW).



    The entire rest of the series focused on Ash's other Pokémon. Oshawott and Tepig were used against Lenora while Pikachu was horribly overlooked in BW. Pikachu is the strongest Pokémon Ash has on hand and therefore logically should be not only the obvious choice to fight but should also do best out of all Pokémon Ash has with him, certainly when he had the type advantage. This episode is a joke. Oshawott and Tepig were over glorified and Panpour clearly had no place beating Pikachu.



    The problem with regression stems nearly entirely from the fact that Pikachu lost. If Ash had won all three battles it wouldn't be seen as a regression and more importantly if he hadn't requested to battle all three leader, unnecessarily making things harder for himself it would not have reflected as badly on him. It was poor writing. And Pikachu is not overrated.
    It starred in three gyms, stop being so whiny and greedy.

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    To me, Aash's poor direction was the root of the problem. You can have the best soldiers, but poor leadership and direction will kill all of them. You can have great pokemon, but poor direction will cause losses. Ash was clearly incompetent in this episode.
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    Quote Originally Posted by U.N. Owen View Post
    To me, Aash's poor direction was the root of the problem. You can have the best soldiers, but poor leadership and direction will kill all of them. You can have great pokemon, but poor direction will cause losses. Ash was clearly incompetent in this episode.
    Yeah, it's impossible to imagine that a water-trainer would have counter-measures to an electric weakness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phanpycross View Post
    Yeah, it's impossible to imagine that a water-trainer would have counter-measures to an electric weakness.
    In this scenarios yes - effective ones at least. A trainer at Ash's level should be able to beat a water type like Panpour with Pikachu regardless of any counter-measures. Remember Pikachu's last battle saw him take on a Latios and draw. For goodness sake in the next battle Ash beat a Pansage (at the same level as Panpour) with an untrained Oshawott and used his untrained and previously malnourished Tepig to take on a Pansage (again same level as Panpour). If he can do that he is more than capable of using his best and strongest partner to defeat a Panpour at the same level against whom it has a type advantage regardless of whatever countermeasures Cress had (There's no evidence Cress is better than Cilan or Chili). This is clearly inconsistent.

    In any case Cress's ability to deal with type advantages is questionable - His Panpour went down in one Ice beam from Morana's Glalie during the Decalore arch despite ice type moves being ineffective on water types.

    Quote Originally Posted by phanpycross View Post
    It starred in three gyms, stop being so whiny and greedy.
    Pikachu was given the fall position in several important battles and tournaments. I am being neither whiny or greedy, I am simply criticising what I believe to be extremely poor and inconsistent writing and an unsatisfactory portrayal of Pikachu's true power. You will find stronger criticism than mine on threads discussing certain Unova league episodes and rivals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pikachu52 View Post
    In this scenarios yes - effective ones at least. A trainer at Ash's level should be able to beat a water type like Panpour with Pikachu regardless of any counter-measures. Remember Pikachu's last battle saw him take on a Latios and draw. For goodness sake in the next battle Ash beat a Pansage (at the same level as Panpour) with an untrained Oshawott and used his untrained and previously malnourished Tepig to take on a Pansage (again same level as Panpour). If he can do that he is more than capable of using his best and strongest partner to defeat a Panpour at the same level against whom it has a type advantage regardless of whatever countermeasures Cress had (There's no evidence Cress is better than Cilan or Chili). This is clearly inconsistent.

    In any case Cress's ability to deal with type advantages is questionable - His Panpour went down in one Ice beam from Morana's Glalie during the Decalore arch despite ice type moves being ineffective on water types. Pay attention closely and Ash used much more strategy with
    Do you even bother thinking about the game from Ash's perspective? Ash is an inept fool this entire episode. If you have ever played a game of chess, you know the queen is one of the best, if not the best, pieces to use. That only applies if you know how to use it. Same thing with Pokemon Battles. I fail to see why you think the battle is not of Ash's stupidity. Pay attention closely and Ash used much more strategy with Oshawott than he did with Pikachu.
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    Quote Originally Posted by U.N. Owen View Post
    Do you even bother thinking about the game from Ash's perspective? Ash is an inept fool this entire episode. If you have ever played a game of chess, you know the queen is one of the best, if not the best, pieces to use. That only applies if you know how to use it. Same thing with Pokemon Battles. I fail to see why you think the battle is not of Ash's stupidity. Pay attention closely and Ash used much more strategy with Oshawott than he did with Pikachu.
    Perhaps but even if that is so, it's still a problem with the writing. Ash is a character, he can only do what the writer make him do. I do not believe Ash is being intentionally portrayed as an idiot given most of the time he's generally thought of as being a decent trainer. Ash probably did use more strategy with Oshawott and perhaps under the circumstance that's understandable, but there's little excuse for the writers to at the end of one series have Ash able to effectively take down a Darkrai and a Latios and at the being of the next not be able to overcome a Panpour. I've already said I believe Ash's portrayal in this episodes was poor and that challenging all three made him look overconfident and childish. I agree that Ash probably did loose the battle due to his own stupidity, but my argument remains the same - he never should have been portrayed that way and not when using the Pokémon he's worked most effectively with for over 13 series as this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pikachu52 View Post
    Perhaps but even if that is so, it's still a problem with the writing. Ash is a character, he can only do what the writer make him do. I do not believe Ash is being intentionally portrayed as an idiot given most of the time he's generally thought of as being a decent trainer. Ash probably did use more strategy with Oshawott and perhaps under the circumstance that's understandable, but there's little excuse for the writers to at the end of one series have Ash able to effectively take down a Darkrai and a Latios and at the being of the next not be able to overcome a Panpour. I've already said I believe Ash's portrayal in this episodes was poor and that challenging all three made him look overconfident and childish.
    Sorry to disappoint, but Ash was already a poorly written character to begin with. Him being rash and childish was in the OS. He acts on impulse rather than thought. Just look at XY where he jumps off a building with no plan whatsoever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by U.N. Owen View Post
    Sorry to disappoint, but Ash was already a poorly written character to begin with. Him being rash and childish was in the OS. He acts on impulse rather than thought. Just look at XY where he jumps off a building with no plan whatsoever.
    I don't see how acting on impulse and emotions makes Ash a poorly written character but okay.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Janovy View Post
    I don't see how how being acting on impulse and emotions makes Ash a poorly written character but okay.
    It's more along the lines of flat character rather than impulse. Sorry with the wording.
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    Quote Originally Posted by U.N. Owen View Post
    Sorry to disappoint, but Ash was already a poorly written character to begin with. Him being rash and childish was in the OS. He acts on impulse rather than thought. Just look at XY where he jumps off a building with no plan whatsoever.
    Ash being impulsive doesn't make him a poorly written character, but he was less rash in the AG and DP series than he was in OS and BW.

    And as for jumping off the building in XY - why did he need a plan (yes I know why from a practical point of view I mean from a literary one). He was doing it to save the one he loved.
    This is a story about Ash Ketchum and his loving partner Pikachu. These two share a bond far beyond that of ordinary pokemon and trainer. Together they pursue Ash's dream to be pokemon master and make friends with many different people and pokemon along the way. He and Pikachu train everyday to make this happen to fulfill their dream. But the path to victory is lined with danger. There are many challenges ahead for this couple.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Pikachu52 View Post
    Ash being impulsive doesn't make him a poorly written character, but he was less rash in the AG and DP series than he was in OS and BW.

    And as for jumping off the building in XY - why did he need a plan (yes I know why from a practical point of view I mean from a literary one). He was doing it to save the one he loved.
    Getting both of you killed is not exactly a good idea. Remember that it was the Blaziken that saved the both of them from being reduced to a pile of shattered bones. Considering the high drop, you'd think he would yell for Clemont to pull of a cushion out of his backpack.
    "Everyone creates the thing they dread. Men of peace create engines of war. Invaders create Avengers. People create... smaller people? Er... children! I lost the word there. Children. Designed to supplant them. To help them end."

    "Momentai!"

    But this is the traditional royal Canterlot voice! It is tradition to speak, using the Royal "we", and to use THIS MUCH VOLUME WHEN ADDRESSING OUR SUBJECTS!!

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