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    Default [Gen 5] OU speed tiers - updated 9/13

    Smogon has stats, so I'll try to make something out of them. All listed Pokemon are based off Smogon OU, and the most common sets I could find. Please tell me if I made any mistakes!

    692 - +2 Jolly 252 Terrakion
    602 - +2 Modest 252 Thundurus Therian
    578 - +2 Timid 228 Kingdra
    528 - +2 Timid 180 Venusaur
    526 - +2 Adamant/Modest 228 Kingdra
    525 - +1 Timid 252 Latios / Latias
    524 - +2 Jolly 252 Cloyster
    519 - +1 Jolly 252 Terrakion and +1 Timid 252 Keldeo
    518 - +2 Modest 252 Venusaur / +2 Adamant 252 Stoutland
    499 - +1 Jolly 252 Garchomp
    498 - +2 Bold 44 Bulky Volcarona
    496 - +1 Timid Thundurus Therian
    492 - +1 Jolly 252 Jirachi / Salamence / Volcarona
    486 - +1 Timid 252 Hydreigon
    480 - +2 Timid 40 Volcarona
    478 - +2 Adamant 252 Cloyster
    475 - +1 Jolly 252 Kyurem Black
    462 - +1 Naive 252 Landorus Therian
    447 - +1 Timid 252 Rotom
    430 - +1 Jolly 242 Gyarados
    417 - +1 Timid 252 Heatran
    394 - Timid 252 Jolteon
    393 - +1 Timid 252 Politoed
    391 - +1 Adamant 252 Gyarados
    388 - +1 Adamant 252 Dragonite
    373 - +1 Jolly 124 Dragonite / +1 Bold 44 Bulky Volcarona
    372 - Timid 252 Alakazam / Dugtrio
    364 - +1 Jolly 252 Tyranitar
    361 - Timid 252 Starmie
    360 - +1 Timid 252 Magnezone
    354 - +1 Jolly 252 Scrafty
    353 - Timid 252 Tornadus
    350 - Timid 252 Espeon / Gengar / Latios / Latias
    346 - Naive 252 Infernape / Terrakion / Virizion / Keldeo
    339 - Naive 252 Mienshao
    333 - Jolly 252 Garchomp
    331 - Timid 252 Thundurus Therian
    328 - Naive 252 Salamence / Celebi / Ninetales / Staraptor / Vivtini / Volcarona
    317 - Jolly 252 Acrobat Gliscor
    306 - Timid 252 Lucario
    301 - Modest 252 Thundurus Therian
    298 - Timid 252 Rotom W
    295 - Modest 252 Hydreigon
    293 - Adamant 252 Haxorus
    289 - Timid 228 Kingdra / Adamant 252 Kyurem Black
    285 - Lonely 236 Kyurem Black
    284 - Jolly 252 Mamoswine
    280 - Jolly 60 Garchomp
    279 - Adamant 252 Lucario
    278 - Timid 252 Heatran
    270 - Adamant 208 Landorus Therian / Calm 136 Sp Def Ninetales / Modest 128 Thunderus Therian
    269 - Adamant 252 Toxicroak
    264 - Timid 40 Volcarona
    263 - Adamant/Modest 228 Kingdra
    262 - Jolly 252 Breloom / Navie 88 Landorus Therian
    261 - Adamant 252 Gyarados
    259 - Adamant 252 Dragonite / Mamoswine
    249 - Jolly 124 Dragonite / Bold 44 Bulky Volcarona
    244 - Bold 32 Celebi / Jirachi and Impish 72 Gliscor and 144 Rotom-W
    240 - Careful 56 Kyurem Black / Timid 252 Magnezone / Bold 16 Tentacruel
    239 - Adamant 252 Breloom / Politoed
    236 - Jolly 252 Scrafty
    230 - Calm 160 Heatran
    229 - Adamant 252 Scizor
    206 - Adamant 0 Bulk Up Toxicroak
    191 - Careful 60 Bulk Up Breloom
    190 - Calm 0 Sp Def Heatran
    183 - Bold 108 Jellicent and Adamant 100 Tyranitar
    182 - Impish 24 Skarmory
    177 - Modest 44 LO Vaporeon
    176 - Adamant 0 Metagross / Politoed / Skarmory
    169 - Bold 52 Jellicent
    168 - Adamant 8 Scizor
    166 - Bold 0 Vaporeon
    158 - Adamant 0 Tyranitar
    152 - Careful 0 Bulk Up Scrafty
    146 - Bold 0 Blissey
    142 - Sassy 0 Mixed Tyranitar
    136 - Bold 0 Chansey / Donphan
    131 - Adamant 20 Conkeldurr
    130 - Impish/Careful 0 Hippowdon
    126 - Adamant 0 Conkeldurr
    116 - Impish 0 Forretress
    114 - Calm 0 Gastrodon
    96 - Calm 0 Amoonguss / Bold 0 Reuniclus
    85 - Brave 0 IV Conkeldurr
    76 - Impish 0 Ferrothron and Relaxed 0 IV Forretress
    58 - Quiet 0 IV Trick Room Reuniclus
    40 - Relaxed 0 IV Ferrothorn
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    Couple minor errors:
    Adamant Breloom has 239 speed
    +1 Adamant Kingdra has 403 speed
    Scarf Jolly Garchomp has 499 speed

    And another pretty minor thing, but you have weather boosted speeds listed as both "+2" and "Swift Swim [whatever]", so you should decide on a common notation for that.

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    Ok, I fixed those. I also made some other edits.

    Any other errors?

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    English names would be an improvement.

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    Yeah, Maybe on Moday I'll have some free time to update this. The names have to be changed and the tiers should be made more up to date.

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    Could I request you add level 50 speed tiers? Especially because of Random Matchup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zachmac View Post
    Could I request you add level 50 speed tiers? Especially because of Random Matchup.
    Nah, I don't play lvl 50 and most of the time neither do others. The changes are pretty small and only make 1-2 points difference if any so 99% of the time you outrun the same stuff at level 50.

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    Good job Boss Harvest.


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    Thank you.

    Ooh, I really should go through and update these but.. gah thats at least 10-20 minutes of work.

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    Thanks. This is awesome. Can you change 5th generation pokemon to their english names? It gets a bit confusing going back and forth. hah.

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    I guess I can do that now. On second thought, I'll re-write the whole tier since its so outdated and its using PO's tiers. I'll switch to Smogon.

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    One thing I think would be a good point to mention is when you hit an exact common speed (such as Base 100 max = 328), as I find it better to know that I'm outspeed X range of pokemon, rather than the pokemon itself... if that makes any sense?

    176 - Neutral Base 70 <- a lot of walls sit at this speed
    243/4 - Max Base 61, a lot of walls sit at 244
    278 - Max Base 77
    284 - Max Base 80
    306 - Max Base 90
    317 - Max Base 95
    328 - Max Base 100
    346 - Max Base 108
    350 - Max Base 110
    361 - Max Base 115
    372 - Max Base 120
    383 - Max Base 125
    394 - Max Base 130
    417 - Max base 77 +1
    428 - Max Base 80 +1
    492 - Max Base 100 +1
    499 - Max Base 103 +1
    525 - Max Base 110 +1

    Just a thought anyway.

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    My problem with speed tiers like that is that I would rather know what I'm outspeeding than the useless numbers.

    For example is it worth it to EV myself to outrun the base 130s when there is IIRC only Jolteon / Aerodactyl even remotely OU. And what are the max speed base 125s? Swellow? Weavile?

    This isn't supposed to be a general speed tier for Pokemon its supposed to be a guide for speed EVing against the current OU metagame (even though its 6 months out of date).

    I think today I'll try to update it though, maybe try to be more accurate with the speeds.

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    Still needs the names fixed.

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    Speed tiers are updated with the most recent Smogon stats and (I hope) the names are fixed! Tell me if I missed any I'm so used to the Japanese I probably skipped over a few on accident.

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    278 - Timid Heatran
    275 - Adamant Doryuzuu
    269 - Adamant Kingdra

    That's the only mistake.

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    Shh, it was Excadrill the whole time.

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    492 - +1 Jolly Volcarona / +1 Salamence

    No one runs a Jolly Volcarona. Just sayin'.

    Should say:
    492 - +1 Timid Volcarona / +1 Jolly Salamence


    Also, you should put things like "Sand Rush Jolly Excadrill" and "Chlorophyll Timid Venasaur" and such, mainly if it's affected by weather or some sort.
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    Sorry for the stupid question, but what are speed tiers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by arceusvictini View Post
    Sorry for the stupid question, but what are speed tiers?
    It's a list of the maximum speeds/lowest speeds Pokémon can reach. As you can see from the list, an Excadrill that's boosted its Speed two stages can have a maximum Speed of 604.

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    Um, in your speed tier listing, I think you got the speed for +2 adamant cloyster down wrong.

    The listing for +0 adamant cloyster is 239 speed, which is correct.

    However, at +2, the speed should be twice the +0 speed, or 478.

    But, your listed speed is 498.

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    Ops, good eye! Fixed.

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    Shouldn't the OP be editted to exclude 'Comp now since it got the boot from OU?
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    Good point. Fixed.

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    Ah, good idea. Anything else?

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