Can people quit with the whole Tsutarja won't evolve thing.
Can people quit with the whole Tsutarja won't evolve thing.
I like Aerial Ace's new animation...they finally made it resemble the game animation with the two hits...
Hatooboo reminded me of Ash's Swellow
My favourite scene ever!
The experience gained from beating Janobii and putting up a good fight vs Pururiru, I think, pushes her closer to evolving, that the other three.
I think, as much as I'd hate her evolving before Mijumaru, that once again the grass starter will evolve first/is most likely to evolve.
Although seeing Janobii animated I'm not so opposed to this anymore.....
My perception of this battle, thanks to summaries:
It only makes sense that Mijumaru and Pokabu, as beginners, would fall to Super Luck boosted attacks. Actually, if I'm Ash, I'm going for the burn with Ember to make Hatoboo's attacks weaker. Granted, critical hits negate stat drops, but again, I'm Ash and I don't necessarily know that.
It still boggles my mind that the same Pikachu that defeated a legendary Pokemon and a Pokemon with an immunity to its type lost to something that only resisted it, but thanks to Zekrom, I can put my mind at ease by saying it basically reset Pikachu to zero. Actually, that's why I don't really like the New Vestroia or Gundalian Invaders series of Bakugan. Everyone was reset to zero with new Bakugan except Dan, who keeps his EVOLVED DRAGO! I mean, why not set him back to his basic form?! God, they make him out to be some sort of Bakugan god!
Remember what I said about Mijumaru and Pokabu being lower-leveled? Same applies to Mamepato.
I hear Tsutaja beat Janovy, which is nice. Who says Ash doesn't use tactics anymore?
According to some of you, Dent made a remark about Pururiru's level, which could explain why it OHKO'd Mamepato. As for Cursed Body, kind of cheap, but Shooti doesn't seem like the type to go for Water Absorb, so it all evens out.
Overall, this rivalry seems rather fair, though we have yet to learn whether or not Shooti was just using those three Pokemon so far, which would probably explain their strength compared to Ash's Pokemon.
EDIT: According to Bulbapedia, Shooti has three more Pokemon. Still, it's possible that they were recently caught and therefore, not yet battle ready compared to, say, Pururiru.
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Ok everyone needs to get off Ash's case. He did good it's just that most of his Pokemon were just weak. I mean what about Shooti? I mean I started thinking this after BW 001 and this has come back to thought. Shooti to me seems a little too good at battling for a rookie. I'm not saying he isn't a new trainer but throughout the whole series whenever we've seen a new trainer they were never this good. I mean if I didn't know better I would say that Shooti was an experienced trainer based on this battle. Seriously he had Janobii by the Sanyo gym battle and also a Hatopoo and Puruiuu? They way he executed his attacks and the power of those attacks like Grass Mixer. Seriously something is off with Shooti just saying.
Mijumaru: Missed a single Water Gun and died.
Pokabu: Missed half a dozen of Embers.
Pikachu: Did well enough for the first time in Isshu, against a Flying type..
Tsutaja: Without a doubt the best in this battle.
Mamepato: Blocked by Protect and nothing else.
Buizel: Hit a pokemon
Staraptor: Took out a pokemon it had a disadvantage against.
Gliscor: Made Torterra pant.
Grotle: Did nothing really.. I'm a fan, but I think it got knocked out and its Energy Ball got nullified by Light Screen.
Pikachu: Hit a pokemon.
Monferno: Took out a pokemon.
So at the lake Acuity battle, although there may have been as many pokemon taken out on the opponents side as in this battle, most pokemon got a move or two in and generally performed better to my knowledge, Staraptor kept going even after getting hit by Torterra's Stone Edge for example. At least that's tons better then what Mijumaru, Pokabu and Mamepato did.
I don't know what's worse. In Sinnoh Ash had decent Pokemon, and Paul's were just up one or two notches, but in Isshu Ash seems to have two decent pokemon and the others can't do a darn thing. Thank god Mijumaru and Pokabu both had a win in the gym battle, but after seeing this trashing, I'm doubting the legitimacy of that. Mčh, Hatooboo owned..
Sorry to say though, I'm basically seeing Tsutaja as the complete mesh of all of Ash's previous Grass starters:
Female Tsutaja: Attract, Vine Whip, (Razor Leaf coloured) Leaf Storm, Leaf Blade
Bulbasaur: Vine Whip (Razor Leaf)
Female Bayleef: Vine Whip (Razor Leaf)
Sceptile: Leaf Blade AND Leaf Storm
Torterra: Leaf Storm
Seriously, they had to give Leaf Storm a new animation??? Sceptile just got his, it didn't even hit.. Why did they bother with that??
Ow, and the most peculiar thing: They gave Leaf Storm the exact colour that Razor Leaf had! If you would've told me that the animation for Razor Leaf was changed to a digital style, much in the vein of Water Gun, and that this was it, I would've surely believed anybody because it looks THAT similair. When Tsutaja's Leaf Storm hit Pururiru I found it hard to believe that that was a 140 base power move.. At least Torterra's looked like it would mess you up good.
Ow and I noted that both Tsutaja and Bayleef are females, not just because, but because this is very important for their characters and moves. It's not something irrelevant as well.. Does Ash have any other females besides Mamepato? Well, lets just say as irrelevant as Aipom's gender was. Bayleef's passion for Ash is what made her win, and Tsutaja's gender made it win against Janobii.
What I liked about this battle is that it was totally believable:
Pikachu beat a bird that beat two starter pokemon.
Tsutaja beat a pokemon that Pikachu couldn't beat, just as Pikachu couldn't beat Tsutaja.
Mamepato and Tsutaja lose to the same pokemon, keeping their status relativily unchanged to eachother.
Oh, and of Ash's Isshu pokemon, all but Mamepato now have a decent win. An evolution can make up for that if you know what I mean. Ow, and that's why I hope to see Pokabu and Mamepato in the Shippou gym battle. Along with Tsutaja if its a three on three.
That said, I completely agree with you. Shooti's got talent, and that's something that Ash lacked when he started.
Seriously, since when did they think of starting to use that move.. Ow wait, the writers still feel smart when they ditch Protect on a pokemon, dumb me...
I wonder as well. Pokabu looked really sad when it lost. That could indicate that it is going to train harder when Chaobuu eventually shows up. Mamepato still hasn't won a battle, so it might be up as well. Maybe Tsutaja's good performance here means it can sit one out, or maybe it indicates that Ash will need her once again.
I mean if we go by who needs a win, I'd say Pokabu and Mamepato, but if we go by who'd be best to pick, I'd say Tsutaja and Pikachu obviously. I don't see Mijumaru in the Shippou gym battle, and I would be surprised if it is chosen... If it is a three on three, then I'd go with Pokabu, Mamepato (Please a Hatooboo by this time), and Tsutaja, for the sake of redemption, and hopefully the battle showcase of a new move (Pokabu Nitro Charge or Heat Stamp please), Evolution (Hatooboo please) or/and pokemon (Tsutaja).
Protect: Probably the most used defensive attack in the animé, close up there with Harden...
Water Pulse: Decent Water type STAB attack that works of its better attack stat and has a chance of inflicting a status affliction.
Evil Eye: New Ghost type STAB attack that works of its better attack stat and raises in power whenever the opponent has a status affliction, which it can induce on it on its own through the use of Water Pulse.
Night Shade: Always does the same amount of damage regardless of stat drops.
That and just Pururiru overall.. It can float, so no Ground type effectiviness and uses that extra dimension to evade and it has a killer ability for any physical attack user...
- Attacks either physically: Sky Attack
- And with special moves: Extrasensory and Air Slash.
- Doesn't always go in with his head to strike because of Close Combat.
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Although I am disappointed by this loss, I can only hope it means something somewhere down the line.
From what I gather, Shooti made a remark about Pokabu and Mijumaru that they were "nothing to write home about." Once again, another racist remark about Ash being from another country.
I hope they reveal some motivation or back story with Shooti, like they did with Paul. Because this rivalry appears to be based on regional backgrounds as opposed to training styles.
@Locormus, excellent explanation on things. I guess part of the problem is being unable to understand Japanese, and going purely by interpretation. But otherwise, I wholeheartedly agree with what you're getting at.
Also, this is just something personal, but I want Aloe to flat out sweep Ash with that... Mirohoggu, is that it's name? The evolved form of Minezumi. Why? Because if Ash loses to her, he'll be forced to actually train some of his pokes for round 2. I really want that to happen.
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Interesting battle, from the looks of the pics (I'll watch it later). If it wasn't for Pikachu and Tsutarja, Ash would have lost badly.
It looks like Janovy only exists to beatdown Pikachu. Tsutarja might have another little rivalry with it though. The bird is decent, and Pururiru is too.
Obligatory Team Tier list:
Tsutarja > Pikachu > Mijumaru > Pokabu > Mamepato
And I'm not saying Ash needs to win every battle, but since Shooti is a new trainer, the playing field needs to be leveled. He shouldn't be having landslide victories against a seasoned trainer and Ash should be able to beat him a few times before the League. I can't buy this rivalry if Ash is going to continuously get his ass handed to him by a rookie trainer all the way until they have a huge match at the League, that's just bad writing and not believable at all.
Mamepato is way over Pokabu. Mijumaru, yeah he can hang in the middle.
Also, why was everybody getting annoyed at Water Pulse causing Confusion on Tsutarja? Doesn't Water Pulse have a chance of Confusion?
well its certain to me now that tsutarja will be the infernape of this series. what i mean by this is it will slightly overshadow the other starter pokemon which really excites me as i simple love it. the personality the design and the smug look are just fantastic. i think it will only slightly overshadow pokabu and mijumaru because they also have decent plot lines.. mijumaru loving ash... and the usual fire type abused crap thing for pokabu ISSHU REGION ROCKS!!!
Ash got is his but kicked in this episode. Some of Shooti's pokemon were way to powerful.
And does anybody know who that guy was that helped Team Rocket?
Though really I just want to see Ash use Infernape, Sceptile, Snorlax, Heracross, Gligar, etc. just to see Shooti's reaction. But of course the writers won't do that because that at this point because that woud make Ash>>>Shooti, and we can't have that when we have the same old, same old formulaic way main rivals are handled now can we?
To be honest, I think Shooti has been done pretty well for a rival. Unless it's later shown that he catches and releases weak pokemon, It seems that his training method is similar to Ash's and I think that could have a big impact later on.
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i really dont get how shooti is so good, but maybe we'll learn more about him later like they did with paul, at first he was just some dude but then we met reggie and learned who he is
for all we know shootis uncle is adeku, very unlikely but im just saying maybe someone taught him how to kick butt
also any future(or present) tsutarja users feel good after this one?
I knew there would be many Don Geroge's like joy's and jenny, so yay and also great episode, i liked Pururiru battling.
Pathetic, honestly I wouldn't have minded Ash's loss but it was a LANDSLIDE!!! >:/
Shooti only revealed 3 pokemon, 2 technically because we know he had a Tsutarja.
It was a 2 over 5 victory for Shooti and the guy just started on his journey. I really did not see the point of this episode. Just plain horrible IMO and a huge blow to all the training Ash ever did in his trainer career.
For all those saying that Ash has rookies for pokemon, spare me. Shooti has 5 new pokemon and has them all at a high level. If Ash didn't train his pokemon thats his fault.
I lost a lot of respect for the writers and Ash because of this episode. I would be sorely disappointed if Ash ends up battling Shooti at the League and wins.
Now please excuse me while I release some of the steam I built up due to this atrocious episode.