
Originally Posted by
Ash6K
Iris did the same with Pansage. Sure it's a different scenario in that Pansage was already Dento's but still, she has the skills to make medicine to heal pokemon so she'll do it. It shouldn't really mean anything besides that.
It's not that she healed him, it's the circumstance. Ash himself got the bequest of caring for the pokemon.. The pokemon gets into trouble, all due to Ash's neglegance, and gets poisoned in the process. Ash doesn't do crap but hold the pokemon while Iris does the work.
That's exactly the thing Ash should've done. Old Ash would've ran to the pokemon center.. The writers could've conveniently placed a pokemon center in the proximaty, but they chose to give Iris interaction with Zuruggu, and let Ash fail in the promise he gave to the daycare person..
This has nothing whatsoever to do with just healing a pokemon, like Iris did with Yanappu.
Sorry, but I'd think it'd be a smack in the face if Iris got Scraggy instead. It was given to Ash so he should keep it since in natural circumstances, we'd all await to see what new pokemon he'll get. We're not waiting for this episode to see if Iris will get it. Besides Togepi (who was in no official ownership as an egg btw), all the eggs that were given stayed with their trainer. Scraggy shouldn't be any different.
It's a smack in the face to the person that gave Ash that egg and that's that. She trusted in him, yet her trust is betrayed by his ineptitude to take care of his pokemon. Not once, but he let it slip away twice when he was watching! That's not the way he should fulfill that promise.
There wasn't a natural circumstance. The circumstance of Ash getting the egg was that he would take care of it, and the moment it hatched he failed. If the person who gave him the egg knew this, he probably wouldn't even have gotten it in the first place. That's the point.
And other than healing other people's pokemon, Iris hasn't done anything with her own pokemon since BW started. I'd rather see Ash get Scraggy so we could see it train along with the rest of his team. Right now, Iris is too focused on Axew and with two baby pokemon...yeah doesn't really make sense. She also has to focus on getting Excadrill to listen to her too so getting a third pokemon (that doesn't battle well either) is not gonna help her training.
Point taken. Nobody should've gotten this egg then, besides Dento perhaps.
Also, you're really discrediting Ash and all his pokemon's efforts to defend Scraggy? That was probably the best moment of the episode and that shouldn't count? And just because Ash couldn't make medicine for his pokemon (like he usually couldn't), that automatically means he shouldn't get it? Um...we have about 175+ episodes left for BW, he has all that time to take care of Scraggy and to train it. I don't see how one instance is an auto failure and he's undeserving. I honestly believe that we wouldn't even think of Scraggy going to Iris or Ash being undeserving of his own egg pokemon if we hadn't seen those sketches (that don't mean anything anyway). Since Scraggy's now Ash's, it should stay on his team. It makes more sense that way.
Of course I'm discrediting the best moment of the episode! Can't see why I shouldn't. The thing that caused that scene to happen was Ash's neglegance in the first place! Your newborn the just hatched stomps off and you don't chase after it? So yeah, just because Ash couldn't make a medicine is not the only cause. He was neglegant twice in this episode. One of which caused this scene in the first place, so if Ash were better at taking care of his pokemon, this wouldn't have happened. If it weren't for Kibago, Zuruggu would've been dead. That's why Ash doesn't deserve Zuruggu. It's what I've said in the speculation thread: 'If you can't save it, then you shouldn't have it.' In this case he saved it, but it was his mistake to let it go off on a tantrum in the first place.. That kinda defeats the purpose, since it still shows us how crappy a caretaker Ash is.
Ash can focus on his baby pokemon, while Iris focuses on hers and they can help each other train so their baby pokemon can be stronger and we can see a Scraggy/Axew rematch except at their evolved states maybe. With this episode recognizing that Ash and Iris both have baby pokemon, I think it'd be great to see them work together to train their pokemon and with that said, maybe Iris will come to respect Ash more and not call him a child as much in the future.
So I could see something like that and now that we know Ash has Scraggy from this episode, I really don't see why this whole Iris/Scraggy thing has to be pressed on.